Damn, there’s a lot of Yellowstone drama going on this weekend
Kevin Costner has suggested he'll "probably go to court" over his departure from Taylor Sheridan's massively successful Western.
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Cable’s biggest performer is also turning into one of its biggest sources of drama this week—as multiple news stories surrounding Taylor Sheridan’s soon-to-be-ending Yellowstone have percolated into the public sphere, including the suggestion that Kevin Costner might end up taking the show’s production to court.
Costner, whose not entirely un-acrimonious departure from the series is widely believed to be the reason it’s stopping at season 5, was actually speaking in the context of his other big legal drama at the moment, a high-profile divorce from wife Christine Baumgartner. Per Deadline, Costner was being questioned by Baumgartner’s attorney about whether he was offered a sixth season on the series, for which he would have been paid many millions of dollars (which would, presumably, factor into the divorce settlement). Costner responded by calling the situation “complicated,” saying that he did negotiate a $24 million paycheck for seasons 5, 6, and 7 of the Paramount show. But, Costner said, “There were issues about creative”—which presumably means issues with Sheridan, who writes every single episode of the series, and is famous for the tight hand he keeps over its running—and that when he tried to clear “the logjam,” the show’s producers balked.
Per Deadline, a lot of the conflict came down to how many shooting days the production wanted out of Costner: The decision to cut season 5 into an A and a B half was apparently not to his liking, especially, disrupting the filming of his new movie Horizon. “A show I was only doing once a year I was now doing twice,” he stated, also noting that he’ll “probably go to court” over the circumstances of his departure from the series. (Meanwhile, Costner still has to film his portions of that 10-episode 5B season, the vibe of which, we have to imagine, is likely to be both tense and brief.)
Meanwhile, Yellowstone is also taking hits from outside, as Lily Gladstone—currently drawing rave reviews for her performance in Martin Scorsese’s Killers Of The Flower Moon—took a swing at Sheridan’s vision of the American West in a recent Vulture profile, calling it “Despicable! Deplorable!” (That being said, Gladstone also took a “take what you can get” approach to the show, noting that, “No offense to the Native talent in that. I auditioned several times. That’s what we had.”)
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I clicked through to the Vulture profile and ctrl-F’ed to zip straight to the quote. I couldn’t find it, because she said “delusional,” not “despicable.”The profile is worth reading, btw.
Worth reading, but those two quotes are the only things about Yellowstone in it.Never watched Yellowstone, so I was hoping it’d have more about why she felt that way.
“I couldn’t find it, because she said “delusional,” not “despicable.””
Oh, so now the AVClub has to quote things accurately???
$24 million to stare out towards the beautiful Montana scenery while wearing a Carhartt jacket for a few years?
He also has to grumble about progress and oversee constant murders on his behalf. It’s super nuanced.
I have never seen a single episode and I strongly suspect this is the most interesting aspect of the series. The insane petty soap opera ongoing.
Both spinoffs so far are so superior to Yellowstone itself that it’s honestly hard to believe it’s all the same writer.
I have heard that about 1883, which helps that its just a mini series.
I loved 1883, and will probably like the Harrison Ford/Helen Mirren one as well. And I actually like Yellowstone, but it’s basically like an update of Dallas or one those night soaps my mother was watching in the 70’s and 80’s. Kelly Reilly’s character is batshit crazy, which is the big draw for me since she seems to be having the time of her life playing her.
Yeah I finally watched the first season of it a few weeks back while travelling to and from the UK and it’s pretty enjoyable.I’m a huge Dallas/Knots Landing fan and it’s essentially just a modern version of that (though nowhere near as camp).Going into it with that in mind, it’s very watchable and easy to binge so that was something.I haven’t got back to Season 2 since I got home but will likely get to it in coming weeks.
I fell out in Season 3 when Kayce and his Native American wife (who is played by an actress who is definitely not Native) were having sex in the woods and a wolf walked up and Kayce and the wolf shared eye contact and then the wolf was like, “Yeah, man. Give it to her!” and walked away out of respect for the fucking.
God that sounds campy as hell.
It’s pretty silly! Season 2 is worth finishing though. It builds to a nice action-packed climax, and there’s a lot of Kayce’s son being perpetual bait and everyone treating Jamie like he’s a worthless piece of shit for no apparent reason.
The fact that they never give a satisfactory explanation of why everyone hates Jamie is one of the most frustrating parts of that show. Yes, they give background to why Beth despises him, but Costner’s character doesn’t find that out until like season 4 and by that time he’s beaten the shit out of his adopted son multiple times for being…a politician I guess?
John hates Jamie because he’s not as much of a big sexy cowboy as the dead eldest son, Lee. Beth hates him because of Gretchen Mol’s amazing four minute performance as the worst mother in the history of existence. Does Kayce hate him? I can’t even remember. I hate him because Wes Bentley has an inherently untrustworthy face and I’m prone to snap judgments like that.
Beth hates him because she was sterilized by the abortion clinic he took her to as a teen. He decided to take her to one on the reservation to keep the whole thing quiet and that’s apparently what the state ran spots do to women there.Kacey actually treats him with love, dignity and respect. Which he doesn’t deserve.And yes, Gretchen Mol’s character was awful for the five minutes of screentime she gets. If I’m ever crushed to death by a horse I’ll be sure to use my final moments blaming my children, who are stuck watching me die slowly and terribly.
She was being a real dick before that horse fell on her too.
100%. I’m sure the horse was tired of her shit.
“I’m a huge Dallas/Knots Landing fan and it’s essentially just a modern version of that (though nowhere near as camp)“You are getting to what may be my biggest problem with the show. I enjoy it. I watch it with my wife who loves it more. It’s entertaining and sometimes ridiculous and violence is always the answer. My problem is the show often feels like it believes (or the people making it believe) it is a prestige show. I wish it did not take itself quite so seriously.
The last season had both a Dynasty style cat fight AND a super obvious femme fatale character. The show has always had some strained credibility, but it’s full-on camp now.
1883 is great, but also tragic. I teared up for almost every episode.LaMonica Garrett (the Buffalo Soldier that accompanies the wagon train) is also in Special Ops: Lioness. I really like him. 1923 is also very good. He really goes into how Native American children were treated by the Catholic church, in these hellhole schools trying to make them white, etc. From what I’ve seen all the shows Sheridan has created after Yellowstone are much better than the original, including the shows that aren’t spin offs. Kelly Reilly said in an interview she was even starting to question some of the stuff Beth did. The whole show got so tiresome to me I stopped watching. She is a terrible character and I’m glad Sheridan is writing better female characters in his follow up shows.
Same.
SO BRAVE
Tyler Sheridan was an actor in Sons of Anarchy (the sheriff deputy under the old guy sheriff). So, just imagine Sons of Anarchy except with cowboy hats and horses instead of biker gangs and leather vests. Yes, it’s THAT bad. drunken, violent, murderers who are all despicable characters, none of whom are redeemable or even really likeable.
SOOOO BRAVE. Why would you comment about something you have zero insight into? Oh right, that’s like 95% of the shit you say.
It should be noted that Costner’s Horizon project has now ballooned into a four movie (and likely expanding) work.Is it bad to hope he tries to tie Postman and Waterworld into an Expanded Costner Universe? I can’t imagine it’d be GOOD, but it’d have the potential to be an epic scale of WTF awful that would echo down the halls of cinema for generations.
“Horizon”, which long predates “Yellowstone”, was already conceived by Costner with a 4th chapter possibility. He only had completed scripts for the 3 (and they were very very good).
they were very very goodHonest question: Whose opinion is this? I can actually believe that Costner has written three excellent scripts for an expansive western saga, but I’m just wondering if that opinion is from someone with a vested interest in the project or someone whose opinion could be reasonably impartial.
My own, and no vested interest. He was in talks with a partnership I represented and worked with to finance, because at that point no studio would. (TBC, no studio would commit to financing *all 3* in advance, which is indeed a crazy bet because you have no idea how the first will perform.) I rammed through 3 scripts and background material in 2 days and have to say that they were enthralling and very visual, though they handled a huge number of characters and threads.
Cool; I would think moments like that have been a highlight of your job. I can’t say that I’ve been following Costner’s career or even this particular project closely, but it has piqued my interest; it’s nice to hear a positive opinion about it from someone not involved with its making.
It’s always amazing to me how when Costner’s name comes up, in these forums we get “Waterworld” and “The Postman”. The Untouchables, Bull Durham, Dances with Wolves, Field of Dreams, No Way Out, Hidden Figures, The Bodyguard. Yet all people come up with are two of the biggest clunkers. He’s pretty bankable as a star. And he knows the business. I can’t blame him for wanting to get out of Yellowstone. It wore out its welcome a couple seasons ago.
You kind of do have a vested interest, Frasier Crane—even though you’re not working on it now, you’ve done some financing/preproduction work on the massive (being kind and not saying “elephantine”) project in the past, and Costner presumably knows you and knows you’re all in on his vision.Personally, I don’t even like the Kevin Costner projects people tell me are good, like Dances With Cultural Appropriation. This is the guy who took a project written for Roger Corman(!), and turned it into the most expensive flop of its time—I’m frankly amazed he still has a career, though I’m sure it can be chalked up to his being a Mediocre White Male….
OMFG, that sounds like an utter trainwreck of Trumpian (another sometimes actor known for his swollen ego and lack of introspection) proportions!
Never forget that a huge amount of the proceeds from “Yellowstone” and its spinoff properties was supposed to have gone to compensate the Harvey Weinstein victims, except that a couple of the exiting executives weaseled the rights away for themselves. So the whole enterprise was developed with maximal scheming, and they are grappling over the *rest* of the money.
Wow. I don’t follow industry news. That’s… so typical – of the industry.
“That’s… so typical – of the industry.”
Yeah, it sure is. If the industry is known for anything it’s making deals to compensate victims and then having someone else change the deal.
That’s Hollywood!
To be fair to those executives, having to pay compensation would make them victims of Weinstein too. /s
Well, this doesn’t sound like a proper AV Club headline. How about more like:Kevin Costner says he guesses he’ll probably like go to court, unless he doesn’t, or something.
Costner is a self absorbed a$$hat, typical of most “A” listers in Hollywood, trust me, i worked there….
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What struck me watching “Yellowstone” was how much I hated all the characters and found them despicable to varying extents. Now it seems like life is mirroring art.