Emmys producer Ian Stewart says Seth Rogen’s onstage COVID comments were “deeply frustrating”
The actor remarked how unsafe the Emmys venue felt while the Delta variant gains speed in the U.S.
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On Emmys night, Seth Rogen was trending on Twitter because, when he took the stage as a presenter, he said, “Let me start by saying there are way too many of us in this little room! What are we doing? They said this was outdoors! It’s not! They lied to us! We’re in a hermetically sealed tent right now. I would not have come to this. Why is there a roof?” Given how many of the presenters’ speeches were pre-planned for the big night, it’d be easy to assume that Rogen’s tongue-in-cheek comment was approved beforehand. But apparently Rogen—who is known for improvising in his movies—threw in the comment on the spot, pissing off Emmys producers.
Producer Ian Stewart told Variety that the crew had “worked for months and months to make that a safe space.” He added, “We’ve worked with all the health authorities. We were signed off by LA County, we came up with a plan with them. Those tables were distanced. Everyone was vaccinated. Everyone was negative tested in that audience. And also he had rehearsed. So he knew exactly what it was. So, I just felt it was an unfortunate misdirect from him. Because it wasn’t just our decision. This is the health authorities’ decision as well, to say that it’s a completely safe environment if you do all those things.”
Stewart—who had even more to say about the Rogen situation—noted that “many discussions to get [health protocols] right feel a little bit wasted” and said that after Rogen went off script, producers had to “play catch up” so the audience wouldn’t think it was unsafe and unethical to be there. “We work in this industry, we’re desperately aware of COVID. I’ve done 50 productions nearly in COVID and not have people get sick. So, it’s deeply frustrating,” Stewart said.
Rogen’s decision to go rogue wasn’t the only troublesome speech from that evening; there was also The Queen’s Gambit director Scott Frank’s super lengthy acceptance speech. Frank ignored many cues to wrap it up and get off the stage. Turns out the speech was longer than host Cedric The Entertainer’s own monologue. “I don’t want to go through that again,” said Stewart, point-blank.
He added, “If you think that you have to speak for four or five minutes, that means somebody else can’t. It’s just incredibly disrespectful to your fellow nominees.” He also noted that there’s a reason why producers can’t just cut the microphone so speakers are forced to leave the stage. “They just won a very important award. And also, of course, you don’t know what they’re about to say. That’s the problem with cutting the mic or playing the play off music over them, when they may be saving the very poignant thing to say to the end, and you’ll just ruin the moment for them.”
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Every one of those nominees was informed of the time limit. Cut the mics. Do it once, to a prominent enough person, and nobody will go over the limit again.(And if they do, you cut their mics, too.)
They did it once to Frank Sinatra and everyone was up in arms about it.
Frank Sinatra? They’re lucky nobody died or went “missing”.
Well, Billy Joel did stretch out his subsequent performance of “River of Dreams” in retaliation, which is almost as bad.
Ring-a-ding-ding.
Hahaha,… yeah,… you’re totally right,… nobody went missing for disrespecting Old Blue Eyes,… no one at all (wink wink)…
They should be honored he showed up to their inferior gathering.
Yeah, for some sort of lifetime achievement award. And it was Frank Fucking Sinatra, who has chunks of guys like Scott Frank in his stool.
frank sinatra? or…frank stallone?
Literally. LOL!
Yeah if you make a rule and decide you’re not going to enforce it you have to accept the fact that the occasional person is just going to ignore it and do whatever they want. It sounds like all of the nominees except for one stuck to the time limit…if you can’t live with a single dude going rogue then cut his mic.Also lol at describing an Emmy as “a very important award”
Colbert also talked through three rounds of playoff music.
Just stop televising the awards and they can drone on as long as they want on a livestream. People outside the industry who are interested can watch. They’re concerned about timing because they have a timeslot and advertising to work with.The Greater Milwaukee Area Meat Packers Association doesn’t televise their annual Gala and Awards Ceremony (even though it’s a straight up banger) because the point is that these people are being recognized BY THEIR PEERS for their accomplishments. That doesn’t require them to be on TV, let alone broadcast TV.
Yep. You get your time to get your poignant thing in, and if you can’t in the time allotted, that’s a personal problem for the winner. Cut the mics and play them out.
That only works if the orchestra and/or cutting the mics has any effect on the person. When Elaine Stritch finally won a Tony for her one-woman show after about 112 years on Broadway, IIRC she started her speech by telling the conductor to not even bother. She goes through her allotted time, and the orchestra starts. No worries, she just talks louder. The orchestra does its crescendo thing, she just talks louder. Hers was the last award before they cut to commercial, and as the camera pulls back to a wide shot before fading out, she’s still there, yelling. I half-expected her to still be there when they came back, shouting over the next presenters.It was the most gloriously Elaine Stritch moment imaginable, short of them coming back from commercial and having the stage mics pick up her screaming obscenities at the producer offstage for the next ten minutes.
I can’t afford to know theatre, but she sounds awesome.
That’s an interesting Xbox Series S there.
Such a classic sketch that only that guy could really land.
I agree.
“Rules… without them we live with the animals” -Winston, John Wick Chapter 2.
just start streaming it online. Let them go as long as they want
i would take the human element out entirely. There is a mic with a 2 minute timer switch that automatically shuts off after that period, with nothing the producers OR the presenters can do about it. People will start finding ways to fit their speeches, bet.
Those tables were distanced, dammit!
and straws for cocaine were sanitized for every use in the washroom!
Please, all of these folks have been at it long enough to know you bring your own straw.
As were the prostitutes . . . .
Lol, you can’t clean whores!
Well not with that attitude!
They used those stupid ass paper straws though.
There is plenty of time for Ads but not enough time for people to properly thank those they wish to at what may be the highlight of their life at a show that is supposed to be about honoring people with awards. also, Seth only said what everyone at home was thinking.
Baller move. Yeah, don’t tell people things will be outside and then just construct a building in an outdoor space. That just makes it inside again! I’ve seen so many restaurants do this – offer outdoor space, then essentially build another building in the street with four walls and a ceiling. You just recreated indoors. The virus doesn’t care that the indoors in on the sidewalk, it’s not fooled.
This one Italian place that I love said they had “outdoor seating” and a “heated patio”. What they really meant was that they converted their outdoor patio space into an indoor space thus making it no longer a patio, just another room.I’ve seen restaurants in my area actually have really good outdoor seating. Like, one place I went to converted their parking into into outdoor seating and just put a tarp on top to keep out the rain.
Lol, that’s funny because as I was reading the OPs comment I was picturing an Italian place near me that basically did the same thing you described.
I just kept hearing Billy Joel in my head. Like always. Help me
Same here – there are several restaurants around us that did the same thing even last year when we knew even less about the virus and were not yet vaccinated. Coming from a mechanical engineering and real estate development background, I knew that increased airflow is one of, if not the best ways to protect against COVID (aside from masking up and social distancing), and the greatest benefit of being outdoors is the airflow from wind and its ability to break up and disperse virus aerosols exhaled as we speak and breathe.
The tents in a lot of cases can be worse than just sitting inside. Permanent buildings have ventilation systems, air filters, you can even upgrade to more powerful air purifiers. You CAN do that in a tent too, but there is nothing requiring it and I haven’t seen anyone actually do so (to be fair, I wouldn’t eat inside a fully enclosed tent either. So maybe this is more common than I think)
A lot of places here in North Carolina did what you’re describing in response to capacity restrictions. “Oh, I can only seat customers at 50% capacity? So what I’m hearing is I need to double capacity and I can get back to normal.”
I genuinely didn’t realize it was supposed to be “outside” until I read it later. I thought it was just a very small ballroom.
Right, it actually seemed WORSE than where they’d normally have it.
BUT IT WAS OUTSIDE SO OKAY
I’m out.
It’s one of my biggest pandemic pet peeves. It’s crazy how little people understand about the idea of ventilation, which seems fairly simple. “But it’s outdoors!” So was every building before you put up walls and a ceiling.
that’s sort of like asking somebody going for a walk if they feel like they are “crawling unprotected on the planet’s surface”–like, don’t tell me what I’m ACTUALLY doing
I love the phrase ‘crawling unprotected on the planet’s surface’. I need to find a way to use this in conversation.
Your logic is inescapable. It’s also silly.
It’s crazy how little people understand about the idea of ventilationThis… given they’re not ventilating the enclosed tents/patios/etc. they are very likely creating “outdoor” spaces that are even worse than if they had just used their normal dining rooms that are ventilated. It’s insane that health authorities are just going with it.
So what are the chances of the Emmy’s becoming a superspreader event? 106%? 120%? Or is it as high as 200%?
Probably pretty low, because of all the vaccination. I think the complaint about the bait and switch it fair though.
It certaintly might be. I’d like to see what the Academy told attendees the event would be beforehand.
Except for that one pesky little detail about the “vaccine” not stopping transmission, according to Walensky of the CDC.
Too much money in that room for anyone to get “normal people” sick let alone allow the public to know about it. Pay a nurse, pay a doc, to keep quiet and all is well.
Nah. It’s different when the “elites” all gather together, especially if it’s to smugly pat themselves on the back. Just like it’s different for them to fly in private jets and live in warehouse-sized mansions, while lecturing us commoners about how we should bike to work and live in shacks in order to save the planet. It’s different. Because reasons.
Zero, so many predicated super spreader events and nod nothing burger. Like every climate prediction a big nothing burger
Oh no, they are all “sophisticated”, remember? Like Obama’s party. Now, stop asking questions, Science-Denier!
If by “chances” you mean probability, you need to take a class.
So you only listened to what Rogen said. Got it.
Maybe he did not know that the virus cannot be transmitted to the sophisticated, educated and famous crowd.Shame on him.
Just like how us peons should all be buying electric cars, but their yachts don’t have any affect on the environment whatsoever. Everyone knows that “well that’s… that’s different” when it comes to celebrities.
But it’s kind of drafty! The virus naturally just heads out those little cracks!
Except for the part that he rehearsed his original speech beforehand and knew what he was getting involved with?
Exactly. Seth Rogen = totally disingenuous, not to mention a talentless twit.
Did he rehearse his speech IN the venue? Because rehearsing the speech doesn’t mean he knew what he was getting into. And even if he did, maybe he needed to work up the courage to speak out, and not just let it slide like everybody else was doing.
What? Hollywood celebrities wouldn’t lie! This is not the place for your foul lese majeste.
Only if during rehearsal they had a completely packed audience. Rehearsal in front of a couple dozen people is very different than a packed audience. For example I was Salutatorian of my high school class, rehearsal was in front of about 90 people. On grad night the audience was packed to over 1500 people. Due to anxiety and straight out shock of the amount of people present I did go off script. A script that was had been read and revised by the higher ups of my private Christian high school’s Administration in order to be given the approval by the school board of directors. Like for me, there really wasn’t anything they could do except cut off the microphone. Which is something they decided not to do. But I did get many stern looks of disapproval from several members of the faculty, as I returned to seat which was still on stage. The Valedictorian and Salutatorian were given seats of honor along side of the invited honored guest speakers and Senior Administrative Members of the Board and Faculty. All I remember is that I think I rambled for a 7 minutes and at the end, the audience all clapped. It’s all a blur because I suffer social anxiety disorder. I have no idea why I decided to write this rambled post that is really off topic. My apologies to those I’ve bored. It thought I have something relevant to comment about the subject. But I guess not. Oh and by the way, I also suffer from several mental health disorders and am under psychiatric treatment and medications. I’m nuts but I still think I have my sense of humor. I do apologize for the 10 minutes of your lives that I made you waste and cannot get back. Again my sincere apologies, if you read all the way to the end.
They don’t just recreate indoors, they more or less create a sealed plastic box with even less airflow. HVAC?! Pshhh. Get in your big plastic tent and eat your Denny’s, asshole.
Have you seen Louis Rossman’s many videos of restaurants around NYC doing this?
“No, how did I get covid? I ate tacos in a wooden shed, not inside a restaurant!”
But, you can’t get it while sitting and eating, only while walking back and forth to the table. Didn’t you know that? It’s SCIENCE!
Try the tacos today at Ted’s Shed & Breakfast!
Literally every restaurant in Chicago with sidewalk space did this and it was just mind boggling.
also, “we are deeply disappointed that this comedian gave his opinion, joke or not.” Man, i do not like using zeitgeist-approved words, but whadda snowflake.
Those restaurants should lose the license for outdoor space.
Which makes his “frustration” moot. Stewart lied; accept the criticism. It’s that easy. Rogan had every right to call it out, especially given a fresh recall of a governor that seemed to flaunt covid restrictions by fine dining. I’m sure Rogan doesnt want to seem like a Hollywood elite that gets special privileges the rest of us cant participate in….even though there seem to be exceptions built specifically for the Hollywooders.
Bad move if the producers were telling the truth. If everyone was tested and vaccinated, it’s not a problem.
I do like the heated pods for outdoor seating. so each table gets its own tent
Im guessing youre the village idiot who doesn’t read the entire article and jumps to a false conclusion. They literally explained they passed every health and safety protocol. Everyone was vaccinated. AND they all had to take covid tests in the day or so before the show. You just wanted to complain. Rogen also knew everything about how the show was going to be held. They had rehearsals…. He made the comment to make the news. Because he’s not relevant nor funny anymore. And he abandoned his friend and fellow actor who was one of the main reasons anyone watched Rogen. Once again to make the news and be apart of the PC bullshit movement.
They said it would be outdoors. Then it was indoors. That is the point.
Woah. You’re gonna die on the “defend James Franco” hill? Really?
It’s okay, James Franco. You’ll make it past this phase of your life and send up better off for it.
Early on in the pandemic it was known that homeless people were fairing far better than the rest of the population. Upon hearing this news, two possible reasons why came instantly to mind 1) they spend far less time indoors than the rest of us. 2) people actively avoid being near them, and they don’t gather together in large groups. Fresh air and private space. Then it took, in my opinion, way too long before adequate ventilation and social distancing guidelines finally came out. It was frustrating .. and then it got worse. I found myself having to explain to friends, relatives and co-workers that wearing a mask was for everyone else’s protection, not just their own. How could they not have known that already? I would not be at all surprised if Seth Rogen has shared some of the same frustration I have. If so, I find his “rogue” comments completely justified, and in my view, necessary. He should be commended for his bravery, not chastised.
I walked by a place earlier today that had AC units hooked up to it’s outdoor seating area.
Good. You should feel uncomfortable.
I do. Constantly.
I can’t help giving you that feeling.
We should duet.
If you didn’t feel safe why’d you go?
Because I’m Kate Winslet. What’s your excuse?
I’m frequently told that there is no excuse for me.
You still owe me five dollars, Kate.
Excuse me, it’s now pronounced KATE WINSLET!!!!!!!
I guess because of the way linear time works, where he wouldn’t have been able to get there and see that they’d oversold their precautions had he not gone in the first place.
Who knows? It may have been as safe as he says. But it wasn’t a great look.
In which case when Rogen got there he should have just nope’d out and called it a night. Bitching about it while continuing to participate was disingenuous.
And yet, you participate! Curious!
I am very smart.
He probably actually did them a favor by addressing the elephant in the room and forcing them to have Reggie Watts explain the precautions that were taken, he knew the home audience would be thinking “uhh, this looks like a super-spreader event” the whole time otherwise.
I don’t think that any significant amount of the home audience would give two shits about the risks of the events.
People opposed to Hollywood glitz and hypocrisy wouldn’t watch, and people who legitimately enjoy the awards shows wouldn’t care.
Also, college and NFL football have been back for weeks. I’m certain that the precautions taken for the Emmys are much more stringents than almost any big-time college football or NFL game (especially college, since you’ve had games where 90k+ have filled the stands, such as in Gainesville for the UF game).
Yeah, I actually thought it was a funny comment. Because there was a kernel of truth in there – at least truth in the fact that a lot of people watching it were probably thinking the same thing.
You’ve never let external expectations put you in situations that you weren’t comfortable in?
Or, it was comedy in which some people’s heads were too low.
Or, you know, kidding.
He probably was under contract to present. This happened to shatner when nemoy died. He had an event and if he canceled (in Judaism they bury you right away) they threatened to sue…which is why he only sat shiva and did not go to the funeral. If Rogan just turned heel it would have been more than a big deal.
Yeah, taking appropriate precautions to hold an event safely sends a terrible message.
Telling people they’ll be outdoors and then making them gather indoors is a good message?
Right. The producers pointed their “Appropriate” gauge at the facility and it signaled “positive.” So it had to be totally safe and risk-free, right?
Producer Ian Stewart told Varietythat
the crew had “worked for months and months to make that a safe space.”
He added, “We’ve worked with all the health authorities. We were signed
off by LA County, we came up with a plan with them. Those tables were
distanced. Everyone was vaccinated. Everyone was negative tested in that
audience.Look, I know that Stoner Comedy Guy is a much more experienced and trustworthy judge of health risks than the LA County health department, but if “totally safe and risk-free” is your benchmark for holding an event, I’ve got some bad news for you.
Is this the same LA health department that told restaurant owners the they couldnt be open after they spent thousands making outdoor areas because it wasn’t safe only to let movie studios have the exact kind of tent seating in the exact same parking lots and that somehow was safe? It’s apperent that the only thing that made the difference was the amount of revenue the city was making from each buisness, and the one making massive more tax money was deemed safe only throws a bunch of doubt on their decision making abilities…
Iunno these days you can’t trust health officials either. Think of all those nursing homes that just followed Gov Coumos orders despite those thousands of elderly dying. And Fauci, who’s supposed to be an expert reversing a guideline every few months. Plus the emails. Just because you’re an “expert” in Anything doesn’t mean you’re right or not crooked. We as a society have to get away from just blindly agreeing with people just because they have a title or acronyms.
This!I love how they are pointing to County guidelines, saying, “Look, we are legit and doing it all by the book”, when if anyone takes the time to read the guidelines there is a huge loophole specifically written for the entertainment industry.Yeah, you didn’t break the rules, because the rules were written to exclude what you are doing. “The Emmy Award Show is a television production, and persons appearing on the show are considered performers.”Other industries aren’t “performing” … so sorry.
They probably put more thought in it than you have.
Read the article before putting your foot in your mouth. They worked with health officials and the county officials where it was held. They adhered to everything the health officials required to hold the event. Everyone was vaccinated. Everyone was social distanced. Live in a bunker if you’re too afraid to go out. I’m vaccinated. And I got covid twice after vaccination from other vaccinated people. I was also born immune compromised with the leading cause of death for my illness being upper respiratory illness. Just like covid. And I think yall are acting like little bitches.
Can I legally hold an event at my house in LA County if I make sure everyone who comes over is vaccinated and has a negative test? No? Then yes, it’s a terrible message.
Can you…not do that? A cursory search of current public health orders for LA County doesn’t turn up any restrictions on private gatherings.The fire marshal might have something to say about holding a gathering the size of the Emmys at your place, but I guess that depends on how big your house is.
Wait, are you implying that big business has been getting special treatment throughout the pandemic?! Why, I never! /s
Wasnt large gatherings still prohibited in Californiaat the time? I may be wrong on that, but that’s why a lot of restaurants were pissed, because they had Entirely open outside areas that were shut down, yet these people get to sit in a tent.
I have a medical and a public health degree. It couldn’t have been just by virtue of being indoors. Throw Delta into that mix and you’re unavoidably raising your risk of exposure and infection and even more so the longer you’re in there.
Oh yeah, what degree do you have? Because the people’s opinion I’d trust have doctorates.
I just breezed thru Rogen’s filmography. He may have a bit of a tin ear when it comes to what is or not a good look.
That’s some fine ad hominem work, Lou.
and I bet you can spot a bad book by just looking at the cover.
I’d say it should motivate people to get vaccinated if they aren’t. So we can get back to that ‘normal’ shit people like.
Remember, there’s one set of rules for the elite and another set of rules for the rest of us
Yeah, but Ian, who should we believe – the production that made everybody provide proof of vaccination, test negative for COVID, and socially distance…or how we feel about it?
I’m going to go with neither. I believe that the Awards Show Producer Integrity Index is a pretty comparable number to what we see on Kneejerk Internet Reaction Accuracy-ometer.
I can live with this take.
“Given how many of the presenters’ speeches were pre-planned for the big night, it’d be easy to assume that Rogen’s tongue-in-cheek comment was approved beforehand.”
Yeah, that sounds right. Rogen probably said “hey, is it cool if i complain about this event being indoors”.
“It’s just incredibly disrespectful to your fellow nominees.”
Right? I mean sure, you’ve just won an award, but try to be respectful when the orchestra respectfully starts playing in the middle of you thanking your parents.
Awful bold of you guys to presume I give a shit about what happens at award shows
Of course, the same might be said of your opinion.
The guy clicks on the article, comments on it, and then claims he doesn’t care about this. People are so weird.
Some dogs feel the need to piss on every hydrant.
I’ve never heard that but it’s poetry and I will be stealing it.
Same
I was going to star you for this comment, but you’re at 69, so…Nice.
Um…we’re supposed to read the article before commenting?
Yeah, but it’s award shows…Any opinions random assholes on the internet have still supercede anything these rich over privileged white fucks have to say.Not by much, but still.
Nah, literally no one here gives a shit about what you give a shit about.
Well, you clicked on the article so…
I am not interested in this comment in any way, shape, or form, so I came here apathetically to tell you all about my apathy and lack of interest. Side note: this school you speak of? I am too cool for it!
Seconded.
The name checks out.
LOL, what the… this is the weirdest thing! “Awful bold”!? “Presume”?! Please tell me more about yourself immediately. Are you the EIC of AVclub, and this is your only means of communicating because you lost your password? Did AVClub punch you in the stomach and hold an Ipad in front of you while you were hunched over in pain, forcing you to read this article? How do you function when you have to read and respond to every random internet article you see?
I mean, I don’t care about award shows either, but I didn’t scroll straight down to the comments to show my entire ass about it.
So who put the gun to your head and told you to read it, let alone comment on it?
So who put the gun to your head and told you to read it, let alone comment on it?
Good for Rogen. To be fair, if he was serious about his comments, he wouldn’t have been there in the first place. But I was glad he said it, because it needed to be said. Those tables were distanced. Irrelevent, because COVID is airborne. I’m not trying to say that the Emmys were unsafe, because I’m not a doctor and I’m not qualified to say. But I’m really getting tired of this social distancing bullshit. The virus is airborne. If you’re in the same room, it kinda doesn’t really matter how far away you are. And the longer you’re in that room together, the less it matters how far away you are.
after Rogen went off script, producers had to “play catch up” so the audience wouldn’t think it was unsafe and unethical to be there. That was very obvious when Reggie Watts started reassuring viewers about the safety of the event before going to commercial. The better thing to do would’ve been to just ignore Rogen’s comments completely & act like they were pre-written jokes.
Frank ignored many cues to wrap it up and get off the stage This playoff music needs to stop, and the Emmys are hardly the only culprit here. It’s bullshit that you give someone an award but won’t let them speak. Yes, Frank’s speech was really long, but there were several others that weren’t and the music still started up to play them off. Turn the fucking music off, and leave it off.And the song selection for the playoff music, Time To Say Goodbye? Fuck you. I was actually surprised that nobody told the band to just shut up. What’re they gonna do, take back your award? Fuck ‘em. You won. Make your speech.
He also noted that there’s a reason why producers can’t just cut the microphone so speakers are forced to leave the stage. “They just won a very important award.”Then let them fucking make their speech!
Turns out the speech was longer than host Cedric The Entertainer’s own monologue. What a horrible host.
The only reason they need short speeches is so they can get in all the ad space they sold months ago. Clearly we don’t give out awards to celebrate a person’s hard work, it’s all about ratings and ads.
I remember hearing Martin Landau being more than a bit miffed that his speech was cut off when he won an Academy Award.And yet Julia Roberts was allowed to ramble on for more than four minutes with hers which no-one else I know of was allowed to get about it (and she complained about that the following year presumably when presenting, blaming the person in charge of the band – and I think getting their name wrong – as if it’s their decision as opposed to instructions from someone else).
where is Kanye West when you need him?
I’ll never know why they don’t let those speeches just finish, unless something goes really off the rails. It’s literally what I want to see, whether I’m watching the gala live or just googling for clips afterwards. I don’t give a shit about skits, musical numbers, promotions, opening acts, fuck all that – I wanna hear the winners talk, and I don’t think I’m in the minority.
These events have carefully timed commercial breaks, where companies have paid them a significant amount of money for their advertising time.
A person’s speech goes over the time, and that has a knock-on effect for everything down the line. So, if they’ve paid performers for a musical number, or a skit, and those get trimmed, now they’re directly out of money without any recompense. And again, those commercial breaks have to happen, since they’ve been paid to have them. It’s not like the Superbowl where they can coordinate the commercial breaks around timeouts and changes of possession (i.e. company pays for a 30 second Superbowl spot, the channel decides to throw it in during the next timeout). With the award shows, they send their full schedule to the network, who then negotiates with the advertisers where they want the spots to be. There’s a finite amount of spots, so the only thing that can change is when during the show a spot goes, not whether it gets thrown in (lest the network wants to violate their contract with the advertiser and pay an additional fee for not airing a paid spot).
Hell, the knock-on effect goes even further, because the network(s) have regularly scheduled programming (with ads during commercials) that have to go on after the show ends. Award shows often preempt programs that follow it. This costs the network money through advertising on those shows, so the more on-time an awards show can be, the easier it is for them to avoid preempt later programming and earn more money through advertising on the regularly scheduled programming.
So, while it might be nice to have the winners give their heartfelt speeches, those speeches can often cost the network a hell of a lot of money if they ramble on and throw off the schedule completely, since everything else on the schedule is fixed and timed to a very particular point (monologues, skits, speeches from non-winners and executives, etc.)
I feel soooooooo bad for the tv networks losing ad money!!! Wow!!
I never watch any of this self-aggrandizing trot ever ever ever and I don’t think I’m in the minority, what a colossal bore
The problem is, if one winner talks for 20 minutes, that eats into the time that winners 2,3,4 and 5 have to talk.
I met her when I worked in a GAP in Manhattan. Closed down the entire store for her as she threw clothes everywhere and acted rude toward the staff who had to stay and work overtime for m’lady.
Kind of ironic, considering her most famous scene.
I couldn’t help but become less of a Julia Roberts fan because of how insufferable she was at the oscars during that stretch. Her announcement of Denzel’s win took the cake. It was both demeaning to the other nominees and condescending toward him, and absolutely felt that way in the moment. Totally clueless and self-absorbed.
Just a note: even indoors distancing still does matter. There was one MIT study that was badly communicated that made it seem like Covid would mix equally in the room but that’s generally not true. The distance is likely greater than 6 feet, and distancing doesn’t matter as much indoors, but it still does matter. You can even see that in early studies of restaurants. It was generally the people in the line of AC that blew the infected’s virus towards them, not everyone in the restaurant.
There was one MIT study that was badly communicated that made it seem like Covid would mix equally in the room but that’s generally not true.
Link? The longer two people share a room & breathe the same air, the riskier it is.
Sure, linking to Zeynep Tufekci’s thread on this (she’s written some amazing stuff on the pandemic). It’s not that the MIT study was bad it was just miscommunicated.
The report (via Korea not MIT) is “Evidence of Long-Distance Droplet Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 by Direct Air Flow in a Restaurant in Korea”
Testing and vaccination ameliorate the risks a great deal. Which is why they were vaccinated and testing people. Don’t overstate the risks and leave those factors out, which Rogen also did in his ‘funny joke’.
https://www.pnas.org/content/118/17/e2018995118?utm_source=www.diariodapalhoca.com.br&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=portal_primenews&utm_campaign=hotfixpress
Better alternative, just end awards shows and stop the needless celebrity circle jerking. No regular human honestly, deep down, gives a shit about what awards a show or actor received from other shows and actors, right?My weeping for humanity is continual these days, alas here I am engaging in the discussion and being part of the problem.
The virus is airborne. If you’re in the same room, it kinda doesn’t really matter how far away you are.You might have some misconceptions there about what airborne means. It’s not some magical situation where bare virus just lives in the air, and teleports across vast distances.
You are still talking about exhaled moisture with virus in it. The distinction between airborne and droplet spread is pretty slight. In either case the majority of droplets settle within 2 minutes, and something like 3 feet of distance. With airborne we simply mean that the much smaller droplets that can stay suspended longer are infectious enough to drive spread, and can be moved around by air currents/flow.
In either case distance from an infectious person absolutely matters, as it takes time for that shit (or you) to move. It isn’t as simple as just distance, time, or indoors and outdoors. It has to do with density of people, ventilation, whether air is recirculated etc. With the specific risk we talk about with airborne spread and indoor locations having to do with restricted ventilation and recirculation of otherwise trapped, unfiltered air potentially moving infectious droplet around.
Social distancing has absolutely been shown to work in circumstances where it is applied properly. On top of that it’s been our chosen euphemism for “quarantine” as well, encompassing staying at home and the carious “don’ts” around travel and public locations. There’s even been a pretty consistent correlation found between density of people in a given space and infection risk, which is why we got into occupancy caps on top of distancing rules.
To the extent that the 6 foot when in public spaces thing did not have an impact in places like the US early on. It’s largely down to the fact that people didn’t social distance. As an essentially worker I was out in the pandemic from minute one, in close contact with the public. In a variety of locations. No only do people not get what 6 feet looks like, that things like passing by within a foot of some one while moving “counts” as being within 6 feet. Or that creating choke points and blocking paths creates risks for others. That the people working in these spaces count in terms of who you’re supposed to stay back from. But they’re in large part so far up their own asses, paying so little attention that they don’t even think to distance, aren’t aware of their surroundings, or realize when they physically shove people out of the way and the like. Even to the extent that it’s practical to do this in a particular spot. People didn’t, and people don’t.
In terms of this event. I doubt a tent, how ever large, is air tight enough to begin with. Or recirculating a fixed volume of air in a way that would cause that particular problem. Stagnant air would let things linger, but move them through the room less. Either way distancing tables is useful to keep any potential exposure localized to that table and those nearby, and the bigger risk would likely be staff moving through the room. Of which there would be a lot.
(Cues music to wrap it up)
Or all the celebs getting up and schmoozing constantly.
Some level of people getting up and moving around is involved in this by nature. Though if you’ve ever watched any of things, they’re not exactly an everyone mingles sort of thing once the “ceremony” starts.
But you’d be kinda shocked at the sort of staff numbers needed to pull this sort of shit off. Not only cater staff, but the tech crew for both a live stage show and live broadcast. Most of whom will regularly be crisscrossing various parts of that space, for the full duration.
Compared to some guest sometimes getting up to go from table to stage, one or two at a time? The bigger risk is the dozens of people who are professionally running in circles for 4 hours+. Likewise the bigger risk is probably to those people. Which is pretty much what we’ve seen at restaurants. Restaurant workers were dropping like flies before they could vaccinated. But there were relatively few problems with regards to customers getting infected at restaurants.
It wouldn’t surprise me if one of the main conditions for being able to work the Emmys (and other award shows) is to be vaccinated. I know a lot of the workers in various capacities are unionized, so it’s likely that the producers of the Emmys went to the various unions and said, “Hey, we’ll hire union workers on the condition that they provide proof of vaccination, and we’ll pay above scale.” Simple.
Personally, a few friends were performers (dancers, specifically) at the Emmys, and as part of their contract both with the union and with the Emmys, they had to be vaccinated. Considering how much income people in the industry lost due to Covid, it’s highly unlikely that you’d see a large swathe of the performance community in media refusing vaccines and the paycheck from work opportunities. Most of them just don’t have the financial luxury to do so.
Oh you have a personal stake in it apparently, that’s the reason for the water carrying
Almost certainly. If guests were required to be vaccinated and to get tested, that’s probably true of staff as well.
But Delta. So that end of it shouldn’t be discounted, distancing works best in combo with other shit. And it’d be an important plan b sort of thing. But the Emmy’s wouldn’t really have a say on whether they used union folks at this point. They have pre-existing union contacts. It’s also worth stressing that it was mostly the guilds pushing for better COVID protections during the past 18 months.
I started a long diatribe on this exact point and was delighted to find someone already did all of the work for me. Kudos.
The only thing I’d add is that modern tents (of the types used for events like this) can certainly be fully climate controlled… which implies a considerable amount of control over the air inside the tent.
Yes, but those droplets still travel with the circulation. So the liner they stay on the air, the liner the distance they can travel within a ventilated area.
You people are the reason the world is worse now, FYI.
And Rogan just got over a very public case of Covid where he apparently took an assortment of pills to beat it. Apparently it worked so we can all move along.
Err no, by this logic someone can just speak for 20 minutes, drag the show out and cause various issues for the producers and broadcaster. This man was rude and thought the night was all about him with his multiple pages of acceptance speech.These people do not need to thank every person they’ve ever known since they were children. A simple message to the fans, colleagues, and a general thank you to everyone who has helped them get there should be enough. If it’s not that’s only because some other egomaniacal white guy somewhere will probably throw a fit because their name wasn’t specifically mentioned in a speech that no one was really listening to anymore. How fucking ridiculous.
If people don’t want award speeches cut short by playoff music they need to stop endlessly complaining that award ceremonies run “too long” like clockwork every year. Guess what they’re trying to do by cutting short speeches… trying to make the show not run as long.
If people don’t want award speeches cut short by playoff music they need
to stop endlessly complaining that award ceremonies run “too long”
And yet I haven’t seen a single complaint about that for this particular Emmy broadcast. It’s stupid to give someone an award & then not let them speak afterwards.
I recorded it & watched it later, so I could fast forward whatever I wanted, and I think more & more people are doing that. The people that don’t want it to go on too long are the tv executives who’re thinking about what airs afterwards, and I couldn’t give a shit what they think.
The executives and the advertisers (along with the specific voting and union committees) are the ones paying for these award shoes. It’s literally in their interest to keep things as short and on schedule as possible, because financially, the nominees aren’t paying much of anything to be there.
It’s not about not letting them speak. It’s about making sure that everything else that has been paid for gets to happen in the allotted timeframe. Those musical numbers and skits and everything else? Those performers get paid, and if speeches run long, then either those numbers get cut, or other speeches simply don’t get aired. The commercial breaks have to happen at specific points in time, so if you have a bunch of winner’s speeches that run over, then you have the common situation of having “less” important awards being given out during commercial breaks. All that does is screw over those people who rightfully, under your paradigm, deserve to speak and have their speeches be aired.
These productions are incredibly expensive, and going over time will both cost money and screw over somebody down the line, be it the performers in a skit or musical number, or another winner who has their speech time shortened because now they’re running into a commercial break that cannot be skipped or preempted. So, as much as it seems harmless when a winner decides to ramble on, you have to remember the one thing in the entire production that the producers of the show cannot control is how long a winner speaks, so incompetence or intransigence on the part of the winner when it comes to the length of their speech can really fuck over an entire production.
It’s not about not letting them speak.
It really seems like it’s about not letting them speak. There were Emmy speeches that lasted 30 seconds before they started to play them off.
Those musical numbers and skits and everything else?
You mean the ones that are almost always bad? It’s an awards ceremony. Why does there need to be skits & musical numbers and everything else? Announce the nominees & award the winners.
If the speeches only lasted 30 seconds, it’s because they were pressed for time for other reasons. Again, they have to fit all of the scheduled sections of the production in between the hard-set commercial breaks. If anything goes over, not just speeches, it forces everything else to either get shorter (such as speeches), be aired during commercial breaks (such as awards given for non-acting/non-directing/non-writing categories), or get cut out entirely (skits, monologues, musical numbers, etc.) They’re loathe to do the latter because, as I said, the performers (both the headliners and anyone doing backup such as dancers and singers) are usually paid in advance regardless of whether they perform on the show or not. They still have to be there and be in costume, and since almost all of those performers are part of the various unions, they’re getting paid something for their time, so not having a performance is simply money down the drain.
So while you find those things to be bad, you have to remember that this is both an awards ceremony, a party for the people invited, and an advertising/money-making opportunity for the executives, the network, the advertisers, as well as costume/fashion designers and a networking opportunity for the various people at the event. It just happens to be aired on TV, and the reason why it can afford to take up 2-3 hours is because the production (at least in the past) was interesting enough (in viewership terms) aside from merely announcing the winners that corporate entities wanted to advertise.
Why are you carrying so much water for the TV companies LOL? It’s like you’re literally defending billionaire corporations versus millionaire actors lmao
You have very little insight into any of this
Nope. Brevity is the soul of wit. Go up. Say thank you. Make a joke maybe. Get the fuck off. Rambling is verboten.
Nope. Brevity is the soul of wit.
They’re not comics. They’re not there to tell jokes.
Nor are they being paid to give a 30 minute speech on the Israeli-Palestinian crisis.
Going long on your speech is rather selfish to all of the other potential winners, as well as the other performers, the host(s), the advertisers, and the production crew who work crazy hard to keep the production flowing smoothly and on time.
The winners are going to be interviewed a bunch of times after the event anyways. If they have something of immense substance to say (aside from the expected thank yous and a few, poignant lines like Michaela Cole), say them afterwards during an interview or put out a press release.
You’re one winner amongst many, regardless of the “significance” of your award relative to the others. Fundamentally, it’s no difference than a drunk groomsman prattling on at their best friends wedding, or a distant family member demanding more time to speak at a funeral.
That’s why I added “maybe”. If you have no skill with jokes, don’t.
I believe the “wit” in that expression refers to how intelligent someone is, not how humorous they are. So it doesn’t apply only to jokes.
I mean it does matter how far apart you are. I take Covid very seriously so this isn’t me trying to be nonchalant about it. But the reason we talk about 6′ distancing is that at a certain point particulates can’t go any further. This is true of anything that is airbourne. Time spent indoors in a well-mixed room can make a difference, but a lot of the attendees don’t just stay in their seats the entire time. The constructed space likely also had considerations for ventilation. Now that doesn’t do anything for sitting at a table with people, but I’d also imagine there was a pretty high vaccination rate amongst most nominees.
When Scott Frank came out with two pages, FRONT AND BACK (shouted in Ross voice), I knew what was coming.
Wait a second – are you inferring that the “6 foot” social distancing rule is arbitrary? And that when I wear a mask to walk into a restaurant and then take at off at my table, I’m participating in meaningless theater? Unbelievable.
Irrelevant, because COVID is airborne.
Exactly. I’m surprised there hasn’t been more coverage of that in response to “social distancing”. Even the CDC revised its own guidelines, suggesting that COVID can be spread via aerosols, which requires much more than six feet.
This whole six feet thing was based on a very old argument on what is considered a droplet (which falls onto surfaces) and what is an aerosol (which lingers in the air).
Oh God you are a whiny little prick.
Nah I think Seth is a bit of a dick for saying this. I’m sure there were a dozen or so people who’d been brought on from day one of the planning of this thing to make sure things were as safe as they could possibly be. Everybody was vaccinated, everybody had a recent negative test, and yeah, even a bunch of probably pointless little measures were taken, like distancing tables. That’s at least as good as any concert you’re going to attend in 2021, and we all celebrate the musicians who require vaccinations at their shows.So just when everything seems like it might turn out OK and the various people’s asses who are on the line start thinking their careers just might survive the night, dude comes onstage like, “They lied to us, HURHURHUR!” Seth Rogen was at rehearsal, he knew damn well what it was going to look like. He just wanted the laugh.
Irrelevent, because COVID is airborne. I’m not trying to say that the Emmys were unsafe, because I’m not a doctor and I’m not qualified to say. But I’m really getting tired of this social distancing bullshit. The virus is airborne. If you’re in the same room, it kinda doesn’t really matter how far away you are. And the longer you’re in that room together, the less it matters how far away you are.It’s spread via aerosol droplets which is technically different than being airborne. Most of these droplets fall to the ground within 6ft of the person expelling them with their breath, perhaps farther with a sneeze, so it absolutely matters how far away you are. Everything is probability and the likelihood of being infected when you are 6, 10, 20ft away does decrease with distance.
If you’re in the same room, it kinda doesn’t really matter how far away you are. And the longer you’re in that room together, the less it matters how far away you are. This seems like common sense, but what of the story of the teacher who pulled down her mask to read to the kids? They were literally infected in a triangle formation, from her sides, to down the middle toward the back. I don’t think COVID transmission is as straightforward as we assume, though I would certainly agree with you that the longer they’re in there, the more likely it seems. But we could still both be wrong. 😉
It’s almost like Seth Rogan realized millions of people would be watching them who did not have the benefit of knowing all of the precautions that were taken to convene the event. Almost like he realized “Hey, people are using any excuse to be reckless, so let’s not give them the appearance of one.”
Beyond that, lab tests for viruses have limits, which is why people get quarantined for two weeks when they’ve had confirmed exposure. It’s absurd to stick a couple hundred people into an enclosed space and then be so confident that none of those people have COVID.Rogen was 100% correct and attendees should have balked as soon as they saw it was an enclosed space. How many reports have there been about TV/film production being shut down because someone tested positive? Unless everyone involved was quarantined for a week or more before the event, there are still too many unvaccinated morons in this country to justify holding this event in anything but the open air with social distancing.
This. Social media outlets were hit with a tidal wave of comments like, “Not a mask in sight – typical Hollywood liberals.” over this perception.
Im against Seeths comments.It dounes like the organisers made good-faith attemtps to make the event safe, and that the health authorities gave them considered measures with which to do so, which they followed.If Seth thinks he has data to undermine these measures, this was a very long distance away from the place to voice them.But he didnt voice concerns, he just made passive-aggressive pointed questions like “Why is there a roof?” – even if there are 10,000 rock-solid reasons for having a roof, the damage is done, nobody has the opportunity to answer him.
It just sounds like Seth wanted to make some Covid noise.Like when a housemate sees the bin is full, and instead of taking the trash out, just loudly announces “Does the bin need taking out?” Seth didnt want to “take the trash out” which would be the equivalent of finding out IF the measures taken were safe or not, he wants to be the one who sounds concerned but someone else to do the heavy lifting. And that is *on top* of the horrendously off time-and-place.
I get it, hes an actor, attention is his living, but this is health and safety, you have nothing to add here Seth and we dont need a celebrity voice to “highlight shortcomings” or “make issues heard” jesus christ we have enough of those.If one thinks that the event was not safe, that measures were not enough or that measures were not followed, that is one thing, but this is so obnoxiously far away from that, I can certainly sympathise with the organisers.Side note – yeah perhaps a teensy bit confusing that it was advertised as outdoors and was in a tent. 1) there is a difference between true indoors and a venure tent – that tent hasnt been in constant use likea permanent structure and has been specifically prepared for a single event. 2) again, if you think the measures are unsafe, you are free NOT to attend (What were you doing there Seth? Did you think it was not crowded enough? Dont you think you being there is increasing risk?) and free to raise actual complaints about safety well in advance, or to the proper authorities.
I don’t get it. If people are vaccinated and required a negative test, they should have whatever party they want. I don’t care. This is not very different from going to a friend’s house (which probably has less air mass than a giant tent) to watch a game. And in that case you’re probably less than 5 feet away from them. I get it, we need to be cautious and sensible, but it’s okay to resume some public activities if you are vaccinated(!) and test negative. I would very much like to know the number of finger waggers who also took a vacation this summer (remember Lallapalooza, anyone?*). Not me, btw. We waited to plan a trip in October, and by the looks of it, Delta will be well in decline by then. *Lallapalooza did have a slight uptick in positive cases as expected, but not linked to deaths or hospitalizations: https://apnews.com/article/entertainment-music-health-chicago-coronavirus-pandemic-99fd8448a981a47d934eac70aa1e19b0
This is good news, folks. This is what our future looks like. You’re free to participate, I hope you do, or you can sit it out for the next year or so.
You do understand that being valued doesn’t mean you can no longer catch or spread right? You also know it takes weeks for a positive test to show after exposure right? This is a clear case of “rules for thee, not for me” stop making excuses and boot licking
You do understand that being valued doesn’t mean you can no longer catch or spread right? You also know it takes weeks for a positive test to show after exposure right?
M’kay, here’s a direct quote from the CDC site about exposure and isolation (emphasis mine): “Quarantine if you have been in close contact (within 6 feet of someone for a cumulative total of 15 minutes or more over a 24-hour period) with someone who has COVID-19, unless you have been fully vaccinated. People who are fully vaccinated do NOT need to quarantine after contact with someone who had COVID-19 unless they have symptoms. However, fully vaccinated people should get tested 3-5 days after their exposure, even if they don’t have symptoms and wear a mask indoors in public for 14 days following exposure or until their test result is negative.”This is a clear case of “rules for thee, not for me” stop making excuses and boot licking
Boot licking? Sez the person defending a Hollywood guy spouting nonsense and undermining the work of experts who helped organize the event? No. If they held the exact same event prior to vaccines, I’d be with you on the outrage train. But now, in the fall of 2021, I’m not going to get all bent out of shape at people being sensible while having fun. Again, you’re free to read the article I linked about Lallapalooza. The event was in late July-early August. Those were regular people who followed the guidelines and didn’t cause an outbreak. Your righteous snark is misguided. Please follow the science.
Except now imagine that your friend’s house party is being telecast to an audience who don’t know whether or not your friend and HIS friends have been vaxed. The Emmys are not a casual get-together. It’s reasonable to throw preemptive shade and force a declaration. I think Rogen knew the optics could be awkward and also knew he’d get fought with if he brought it up in rehearsal. Forcing them to deal with it live was the best move.
Except they were all vaccinated and tested negative. If this was last year and we didn’t have vaccines yet, yeah, it would be stupid. But it’s not. And as many people have pointed out, if Rogen truly believed what he was saying he would have left. Hollywood has continued to work through the pandemic, you don’t think all these people haven’t already been tested out the wazoo? I have tested over a hundred times and I don’t even work in Hollywood.
And as people have *also* pointed out, a comic actor making a comic point to bring attention to precautions that the show had no plan to explain is maybe a good idea. I even mentioned that in my post, which you seem to have ignored in favor of restating your well-taken point.Optics. I think it was optics. I suspect that either: Rogen brought up the idea of stating the precautions in rehearsal and the producer declined because it would take up time OR it didn’t occur to Rogen until cameras were rolling and things were “real”.Either way I don’t think the comments were Rogen being a hypocrite. Yes, HE knew about the precautions. It’s why he was comfortable being there. Would WE have known about those precautions had he not stirred up some shit?
Apparently the precautions didn’t matter because people have taken what he said at face value and ran with it. But if you do a basic internet search you can find a press release, dated September 15th, on the safety of this year’s Emmys on their website:
https://www.emmys.com/news/awards-news/kick-covid-safe-emmy-awardsI didn’t watch it, so I don’t know what coverage the red carpet people did live, but if it was anything like the Oscars earlier this year, they spent time explaining the setup and safety precautions. He could have made jokes about how safe the event was, not how unsafe it was. It was a low blow to the organizers. As the saying goes, “a lie can travel around the world before the truth gets its shoes on.”
Kinja ate my first response. Fuck it. I trust Rogen and think we’re all being stupidly optimistic. I don’t know shit about this producer except he’s whining about a comic actor who told some jokes that made him look bad. Fuck him. Have fun making excuses for him.
Don’t let the science get in the way of your personal feelings about a movie actor. This was an enlightening discussion. Be well.
Oh fuck off with your disingenuous “Be well” and your self-righteous bringing science into it, like I *don’t* trust it and *haven’t* been masking and gotten vaxed. Perception fucking matters and Rogen knew how that room could look. You can dunk on him and dunk on me all you like and Florida will still be fucking Florida. If we can’t get people to take the shit seriously we’ll never get anywhere. Even IF he was misguided, Rogen’s heart was in the right place AND was supportive of the fucking science.
I don’t know how many people were at the Emmys, but I would guess it was easily north of 100 in that room plus however many more working the cameras, lighting, backstage, etc. I went on vacation when things started to look better regarding Covid, but I was never indoors with that many people, let alone elbow to elbow with that large a crowd with no mask on. I didn’t watch the whole show, but I was surprised everyone was maskless when I turned it on. Seemed like Seth said what a lot of people were thinking.
Did you read the article I linked? Thousands upon thousands of young people swayed and breathed on each other in Chicago and it didn’t cause the nation to collapse. The organizers followed the guidelines and it all went well. It’s going to be okay.
Is the nation collapsing the requirement for things being not OK for you? How many people did those 200+ positive cases infect and did any of them die or get hospitalized?
You’re comparing apples and oranges while not being able to spell Lollapalooza correctly.Damn, I misspelled a nonsense word. I guess that completely undermines my entire argument.How many people did those 200+ positive cases infect and did any of them die or get hospitalized?
Did you read the fucking article? TLDR; None, dipshit. It’s been over a month. It’s fine.Out of curiosity, is your kid old enough to be enrolled in school or attending daycare? Have you sent them to daycare/school? If so, you are doing more to threaten their life than a tent full of vaccinated people. I don’t judge you for choosing to do that. People take calculated risks and hope for the best. A tent full of vaccinated people who recently tested negative is extremely low risk compared to an enclosed room full of unvaccinated children. You’re free to find me in a month and tell me you told me so.
You’re comparing apples and oranges while not being able to spell Lollapalooza correctly. A crowd in the outdoors not the same level of risk as people crowded into what appeared to be an indoor location.
Personally, I wouldn’t have gone to either event. I have a kid who is too young to be vaccinated, and I wouldn’t want a bunch of sweaty twentysomethings around me anyway.
Who gives a shit about these ego fests? Good on Seth.
I agree about whogivesashitaboutawardsshows, but as I said, why even go? If you go to the ego suck fest, even to rail against it, you’re still validating it.
“They just won a very important award. And also, of course, you don’t know what they’re about to say. That’s the problem with cutting the mic or playing the play off music over them, when they may be saving the very poignant thing to say to the end, and you’ll just ruin the moment for them.”If they save the poignant thing for last, fuck ‘em. Cut to commercial.
That’s the ironic part.
Of all the people in the world who should know how expensive it is when production schedules run over time, it should be performers on multi-million dollar productions where they work 16-hour days just to finish a production in an allotted time, lest they want massive budget overages.
Say thank you, say poignant thing, get off the stage. If you win, you’ll have enough time during the scores of interviews you’ll have after the fact to prattle on.
That’s why they all have editors. Most of these people do not know how to “kill their babies”. Editors are the true unsung hero of Hollywood.What would be interesting if an Editor award has ever had extended runovers with their awards acceptance.
I believe that stars consider themselves the most valuable part of a production (that is, the component that delivers the most return on investment)—therefore, they think everybody else can just hang in there as they prattle on (if their typically outsized egos allow room for a thought about their effect on others).
They didn’t cut the mic on Ralphie’s dad when he won a major award!
No, but things have a way of working out…
It’s such a lame excuse not to cut someone off. “Sure they’ve been rambling on for 5 minutes, but what if the very next thing they say is amazing?!”
producers had to “play catch up” so the audience wouldn’t think it was unsafe and unethical to be there.
There was no spin that could change the audience’s preconceived notions. Anybody with eyes was already judging that venue and saying “yup, seems good” or “glad I’m not invited” and the damage control Reggie and Cedric tried just had a Streisand Effect on Seth’s jokes.
The “catch up” had a very Kevin Bacon in Animal House “All is well!” feel to it.
“Emmys producer Ian Stewart says Seth Rogen’s onstage COVID comments were “deeply frustrating””
Sounds about as frustrating as being told you’re going to an outdoor event only to find that it’s indoors.
Cut Frank’s mic. If it’s important it’ll be in the first :30. Guy was awful. I’d also enact a rule where he cannot be nominated for another five years. He’s had his moment in the sun, and that of several others that should last him at least five years.
That’s an interesting idea – a rule where you gain one year of ineligibility for every second your speech goes over the alloted time. People can plan accordingly.
If you really want to illustrate how outmoded broadcast TV is, just go up and say, “Thank you very much. My full acceptance speech has now been posted to Twitter. Good night.”
He was awful; especially the skeevy part about Anya T-J’s physical appearance and the other obsessive details about her work habits.
Whatever happened to award winners taking out a full-page ad in Variety the day after the ceremony, to thank a TON of people individually? That always appeared classy. Talking about your leading actor’s appearance, not so much.
More like Seth ROGUE-en, amiright!?
Emmys producer Ian Stewart says Seth Rogen’s onstage COVID comments were “deeply frustrating”Well at least they agree that this bullshit is frustrating.
it was frustrating; and it caused him moments of confustication and bebotherment. Then he took a Tylenol PM.
They were likely also frustrated that Seth was funny, which was clearly not the vibe they were going for with the host and sketches they planned for the night.
Seriously. We haven’t earned events lifestyle back yet. All the vaccine got us was, at best, a closer to normal day to day routine.Yes, fine, you won’t die from COVID if you’re vaccinated and its harder to spread, but you CAN still spread it and you CAN be sick for a week. (Hey, people that kept linking me CDC stuff in May saying the vaccinated weren’t contagious? Guess what…they updated their data:)
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/delta-variant.htmlnew data began to emerge that the Delta variant was more infectious and
was leading to increased transmissibility when compared with other
variants, even in some vaccinated individuals. https://www.salon.com/2021/09/21/i-got-a-mild-breakthrough-case-heres-what-i-wish-id-known_partner/
“you won’t die from COVID if you’re vaccinated”A small correction, people can and have even when fully vaxxed – typically those are in the old age demographics (70s, 80s, 90s especially) and even more so when having comorbidities but this doesn’t change the fact their odds of survival – and everyone across the board – is much improved with their survival chances.
Yes, fine, you won’t die from COVID if you’re vaccinated
Yes, you can. Odds are you won’t, but it’s still possible.
Being vaccinated basically brings the risk down to the level of the seasonal flu. People die from the seasonal flu every year, but the fast majority are infirm prior to getting it.
And? When are people like you going to stop being so god damn paranoid? Coronaviruses do not go away, you want to live like this forever? You stay home then. And let us reasonable people get back to it. Fool
And I dont give 2 shits. Im going back to my normal life.
It isn’t just “harder to spread”. It is significantly, significantly less likely that a vaccinated person will get infected. Even if directly exposed, and even with Delta.
There is always a chance, with any vaccine, that some individuals might not develop the level of immunity needed to prevent infection. But with regards to the strains the vaccines we have were developed for, they are generally much more effective on that front than almost any other vaccine ever developed. So far as I’m aware, we still do not have a confirmed case of a fully vaccinated, healthy person being infected with those strains. Though it has almost certainly happened, it’s that rare of an outcome.
The vaccines are less effective against delta, which as a strain is significantly different that the base line COVID that the vaccines were developed for. But it’s very important to note, that the existing vaccines are still incredibly effective at preventing infection with COVID Delta and the other more recent strains.
The infections among the vaccinated we see now are infections with Delta. And more rarely or where they exist, the other new strains. Previous breakthrough infections were mostly among the partially or recently vaccinated. In the window before full immunity develops.
This “the vaccine isn’t meant to prevent infection” take, and it’s similar relatives are a major part of the Anti-Vax argument. Intended to make the vaccine seem ineffective, unnecessary, unsafe, or otherwise dishonest or different from other vaccines.
Your CDC link relates already known info about Delta. And specifically does it in the context of calling for more vaccinations. It specifically states that Delta is more infectious than previously estimated. It was already known to be more infectious than standard COVID, and that the vaccine was less effective against it. But calculating those numbers takes time.
The quoted bit relates to comparing Delta to baseline COVID, and infections with other strains among the vaccinated. Not infections among the unvaccinated vs the vaccinated.
None of it addresses the chance of infection while vaccinated. And anything anyone linked you in May would have related to the original COVID 19 strain, as Delta hadn’t yet begun to proliferate. Delta had not even been identified until right around the first vaccine release, there was little data available by May, vaccine access was still limited, and the CDC would not have had to formally account for Delta in announcements.
Please stop spreading bullshit.
Yeah, for people claiming to follow science, I’m reading a lot of misinformation in these comments. Vaccines work. Get vaccinated and go about your life. If you’re going to a big awards ceremony, follow their rules and get tested before and after.
I look at it this way: Saying that if you’re vaccinated you won’t die from getting COVID so you shouldn’t worry about getting COVID is like saying you won’t die from getting kicked in the crotch so you shouldn’t worry about getting kicked in the crotch. Does anyone want to get kicked in the crotch? NO. So you should avoid getting kicked in the crotch as it is a completely terrible experience. COVID is the same.
You’re not wrong…but…to a lot of people, it’s not like getting kicked in the crotch at all. Most people don’t even know they have it. Plus some people like to get kicked in the crotch. I’ve been told.
Not to mention long COVID, as they call it. Not gonna risk winning the grab bag of potential conditions/diseases that can come with (even asymptomatic) COVID.
I’m with Seth on this one.
I’m on board for Seth Rogen’s speech, and select contributions to art and culture. Mainly his involvement with The Boys at this point, but the dude’s ok.
Not on board with the tux. It looks like an outfit Barbara Streisand would wear to chaperone a children’s Halloween party.
He walked in, he saw the surroundings, he chose to stay. Sounds to me like he’s mad at himself for staying someplace he knows he probably shouldn’t be, but rather than admit it, he’s taking it out on the people who organized the event.Funny joke, but lame, and he plays right into all the idiots who claim the “coastal elites” have one rule for themselves, one rule for the rest of us. Did Rogan also eat at the French Laundry after the show; etc.
I feel like Seth Rogen is one misguided insult of a popular target away from us all asking whether he’s actually just been kind of a dick all along.
Who isn’t?
And these are the people that will never let us go back to being normal around each other. Idiot Seth. STAY HOME IN FEAR THEN.
I get that the producers and crew worked hard to prepare a safe place for the event, making sure that everyone was tested, vaccinated, and distanced. But did they mention it during the broadcast? Like, several times, reminding viewers?
I wonder if Seth was referring to TV’s power over the minds of viewers
Leave it to Seth Rogen to make a single minute of the Emmys watchable
When’d he do that?
Probably when he fucked off.
Too bad, so sad you were called out on your crap. If you told people it was outside, but had your fingers crossed behind your back, you deserve all the “frustration” you get. Does anyone really imagine a tent like that is better than a ballroom? Nor did I see many masks.
How dare he question the system?!
The speed at which everyone pivoted to “Obviously they don’t need masks, you bigot” just because the AV Club writeup kinda took that side, is shocking. I mean damn. Y’all motherfuckers just go along with whatever, huh.
Just imagine if that had been Norm Macdonald instead.
It would be far funnier and a less punchable face.
I dig it. It’s not like the virus is the Angel of Death, and you can just throw some goat blood on your door, and the virus will look at it, put a check on its list and move on to greener pastures.This entire COVID thing has been a masterclass in the time-honored neo-liberal practice of actuarially assigning specific dollar values to human lives. We’re all taking various amounts of calculated risk, and we shouldn’t pretend that someone’s word is a protective talisman. I have my own private calculus – let’s just be honest about what we are doing here.
Wait assigning dollar values to human lives is neo liberal now? Cause I’m pretty sure that one goes back a little farther than the Clintons.
Just because an underlying given of neo-liberal thinking has existed before neo-liberalism was a concerted movement, doesn’t mean that it is not a part of neo-liberal thought. I’m not really sure what you’re getting at.What I’m getting at is that neo-liberalism is an everpresent part of our political system, and that its underlying assumptions are driving certain outcomes, and I believe that it’s important to be clear in attributing cause and effect, because we can then understand what the consequences (and perhaps the benefits) of adopting a neo-liberal framing of how to run the world.
I’d say it’s been less about neo-liberal valuation of life (though some of that, hi Cuomo) and more about conservative valuation of life (i.e. zero, you should Die For The Cause).
The “conservative” calculus part is obvious, although they seem to be performing their calculus with Kruger Rands, or Zimbabwe dollars, or something, and perhaps it intertwines in certain ways with the neo-liberal style. What I’m getting at is the frustration I have with the parts of society I feel I can still have a conversation with. It’s looking for any and every datapoint to be able to justify opening up every business as much as possible while not paying attention to the data points that don’t support relaxing things, and hiding it all behind opaque bureaucracies, and then pretending that spreadsheets can block virus particles. I know I sound conspiratorial, but I work in an opaque bureaucracy. Hopefully I’m being somewhat coherent, but so many people running governments seem to be too chickenshit to make decisions that might inconvenience or upset some people in order to save quite a few lives.
Yeah, people do that. Always have, always will. It’s just a function of how representative democracy works.Regardless of their political stance, elected officials wanna get relected, and being seen as personally responsible for shit that hurts their voters, makes them less likely to be reelected. So they’ll generally rather pass the buck and waffle rather than make difficult decisions.Even unelected politicians still have constituents. I was watching a youtube video about the Great Fire of London and a primary reason for the spread of the fire was that people didn’t want their houses demolished to make a fire break. When summoned to grant permission for the demolition, the Lord Mayor refused to grant permission. So yeah, even all the way back in 1666 people were still like this.
I’m not sure you make your case that this is a phenomenon that is inextricably linked to democracy. It might be largely true, but there seem to be various democracies throughout the world that can tackle the tragedy of the commons problem with differing degrees of success. A well-educated populace should logically be able to vote considering long-term consequences. How much power does our voter base have compared with the oligarch class, and are we being accurate in thinking of ourselves as anything but an oligarchy?I’m not totally credulous on the absolute virtue of democracy, but I would argue that the US’s most anti-democratic political features have been the most destructive ones.
What’s this “very important award” Stewart’s referring to?
If that was a wedding in Georgia taking place in a tent under the same circumstances, people in that room would have condemned it, so I love that Rogen trolled them.
Producer of Several Awards Shows Publicly Complains About Producing Awards Shows
Well, I’m pretty sure that Seth’s lungs are in pretty bad shape on a good day from the metric ton of weed he’s smoked in his life. Even fully vaxxed, that guy’s the definition of high risk, so I guess I can see his concern. Still, no need to speak out the way he did without knowing all the steps that had been taken to make the event safe. He should’ve noped out of there and went home and got high(er).
Rogan was merely stating what everyone with a chip against “the Hollywood elite” (remember, they control EVERYTHING) was thinking: “how DARE they flaunt the mandates that THEY push on US???”As for Frank, yeah, the rest of the world doesn’t want to hear all your speech. Tough shit, cut him off, put his full speech on theemmys.com if anyone is interested. Glad he didn’t win the other award he was up for. It (a long-winded, selfish speech) is what turns TV’s off. Ironic for an award show celebrating TV.
But if the vaccine works as well as everyone says it does…why would it matter?
Covid has been the perfect opportunity for all of these big awards shows and they don’t even see it. All of them – Oscars, Golden Globes, Grammys, Emmys, pick one – were on a severe downward slope in the ratings before Covid was even a twinkle in an East Asian bat’s eye. And it’s now affecting TWO awards seasons. Life has given the awards shows lemons, and they’re all still trying to make Steak Diane.
Make some f*cking lemonade! This is two years now that all these awards shows could have gone virtual, saved a crapton of money, and retooled in the background. Then, in 2023 or 2024 or 2056, WHENEVER we’re finally done with the pandemic, they could have blown the doors off and spent double or triple their normal budget and made the first awards season back a truly historic moment. The 2023 Emmys should have Ted Lasso fighting Danny Larusso on top of an Avengers Quinjet while Ru Paul covers the Beatles and Cedric the Entertainer rap battles Lin Manuel Miranda while dressed as a Handmaid. Just go absolutely bonkers. Twitter would implode, everyone would talk about the Emmys for the first time since 1997, and they will have turned a setback into an opportunity.
Instead what we’ll get next year is the same as this year, maybe with the tables pushed closer together, and the host saying “isn’t it great to be back to normal?”. No, normal sucked in 2019 and it sucks in 2021 and it’ll suck again next year, you dinosaurs.
This is why they need to replace playoff music with a guy with a paintball gun. Once that countdown clock hits zero, he starts firing. You can continue talking for as long as you want after that, but that shit hurts.
That’s why I always wear a cup and goggles when I accept awards.
lmfao, I would actually watch awards shows if this is how it worked.
You’d love the Nickelodeon Kids’ Choice Awards
Slime ‘em!
They collect the award inside an airtight plastic cube. Once they hit the allotted time, it’s filled with mustard gas. If that doesn’t work, just drop the cube into the shark pool beneath the stage, I guess?
I’ve never paid for pay-per-view, but would do so, if you were the producer.
This is news? A comedian making a joke about being concerned and a celebrity seeking attention? lol quiet day I guess
I accidentally watched about 30 secs of “The Emmys”, the most ridiculous waste of oxygen of all time. football game i had on went into OT then channel switched over. I actually thought it was a rerun bc no masks or distancing of any safe amt. It’s just offensive how the safety rules are different for these “special” ppl. Not only did they set a terrible example bc it wasn’t clear that they had pre-requisites for attendance. It also highlights the fact that requiring a negative covid so the rest of the rules don’t have to be followed is something reserved for those who can afford it. Aren’t ppl sick of watching the wealthy overpaid actors dress up for their self created proms, party, and pat themselves on the back? It so damn boring.
The only reason the Health Department said it was safe was because it was a “TV production” and so all the attendees were considered actors” Horse hockey! Seth was absolutely right!
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2021-09-21/emmys-2021-covid-19-los-angeles-department-public-health
Why does anyone watch The Emmys? For this sort of train wreck?
Hockey for the fights; NASCAR for the crashes; award shows for the Rogen.
Well geez, if Willy Wonka himself says this event was unsafe, who am I to argue with him?
Wait, Timothee Chalamet weighed in?
TIMOSQUEEEEEEEE!
Weight in? How? He’s so skinny he has to run around in the shower to get wet!
I think the question is, did the temporary building have ventilation openings that, perhaps, weren’t visible on camera, which an actual building wouldn’t have.They probably couldn’t have it be just open to the sky, because they might need some control over ambient noise and wind. Don’t really need some idiot flying a drone into the space during the show either.
Good for seth. Ian stewart can cry about it.
“we were signed off by LA County!”Hahahahahahaaha! Being signed off by an authority in the USA is not a high bar.
“And also, of course, you don’t know what they’re about to say. That’s the problem with cutting the mic or playing the play off music over them, when they may be saving the very poignant thing to say to the end” I feel pretty confident that nobody has anything worth a shit to say at the end of a 4-minute Emmy speech. Or at the beginning. Cut ’em off.
Moses didn’t mouth that during Scott Frank’s speech. She mouthed that during William Horberg’s speech later in the night, who had probably the most cringe-worthy moment of the night when he said that Anya Taylor-Joy brought the sexy back to chess.
If he hadn’t said it, we would all still be saying it. I don’t care how much you checked with health officials and how many people signed off on this event, a close indoor gathering is not a good look right now.
The producer is pissed because Rogen said out loud the stuff everybody knows but won’t say – “important people” operate under different rules than the rest of us. During the strictest of the lockdowns, when restaurants were being shut down, movie sets were still operating – with catering and commissaries. There was a 15 minutes of fame case of a female restaurateur who made a stink about the fact that her place was closed down while just outside the restaurant there was a film production with catered meals in tents.The rich and powerful have been minimally inconvenienced by COVID – you can’t even keep track of the number of politicians who have been filmed breaking their own lockdown rules (often on the same day that they held press conferences announcing criminal charges for those breaking those same rules).But they are on the right side of history when it comes to the outrage of the week, so they all get a pass. (Or they’re rich/powerful enough to just NGAF.)
Damn, Scott Frank. You need an enormous ego to see a production through to a win, but you need the same amount of humility to share the night with the other enormous egos. These award shows provide a redemptive moment and you blew it.
“He added, “If you think that you have to speak for four or five minutes,
that means somebody else can’t. It’s just incredibly disrespectful to
your fellow nominees.” He also noted that there’s a reason why producers
can’t just cut the microphone so speakers are forced to leave the
stage. “They just won a very important award. And also, of course, you
don’t know what they’re about to say. That’s the problem with cutting
the mic or playing the play off music over them, when they may be saving
the very poignant thing to say to the end, and you’ll just ruin the
moment for them.””Sounds like they’re trying to have it both ways. It’s incredibly disrespectful but we don’t want to cut them off because they might say something good.
Good for him. I’m sick of municipalities telling us serfs to “just be patient” while watching every one of them roll out the red carpet for celebrity super spreader events. I’m sure it was safe. I’m sure everyone was vaccinated. I’m sure everyone tested negative. But what happened to that tone deaf celebrity video set to “Together”? It’s purely rhetorical, but he same rules don’t apply to the rich and famous, even if they spent three minutes pretending to be with us. I’d be embarrassed to be in that audience. I can’t order popcorn at the movie theater and have to wear a mask, but millionaires can hug and kiss at the Met Gala and the Emmys.
Yeah, I get why it’d be frustrating, but I thought Rogen’s bit was funny.In regards to letting winners have longer speeches than the time allowed… Just cut the cringe bits in-between. Almost all the Cedric bits didn’t work. Just give those crap less screentime and let winners have more. Fuck your monologues.
This seems like one of those “hit dogs will holler” situations.
Seth Rogen was right.
“This is the health authorities’ decision as well, to say that it’s a completely safe environment if you do all those things.”Yeah, the health authorities are never going to say ‘it’s a completely safe environment’. Never.Here’s the reality, as I see it: The industry never wanted to pump the brakes to begin with, the public didn’t generally appreciate that apprehension, and now they are trying to have their cake and eat it to. That’s fine, it’s legal, whatever… where I have trouble is when they try to pretend like there is no risk, even when taking precautions, and then claim that the doctors have their backs. The doctors would advise against hosting this event, out of principle, because it’s completely unnecessary risk. There is no purpose to have all these people together other than self-gratification and generating revenue. What I’m trying to say is that, despite minimizing the risks, the event itself created risk where none needed to be in the first place. This could have been remote, or skipped, without any pain or injury to the attendees or viewers.
The Emmys are just sad that Seth Rogan called out the bad look of unmasked elites crammed into an “outdoor” tent while the unwashed, hopefully unseen servant class stands at the sides masked up, as if they are somehow the dirty ones.
It was a joke that had a tinge of truth to it. I’m sorry, but no matter what you do, things are going to be unsafe, and the producers indeed made choices that moved it towards more unsafe, even if only slightly.
Like, fuck y’all. Hospitals are still very overwhelmed, even if California and LA are doing better than many other places in the country. I am so consistently mystified by folks’ insistence that things are better when, in many ways, we’re MUCH worse off than last year.
Did you plan for the Delta variant Ian? It got the biggest laughs after Conan. Maybe that’s what you’re upset about.
Because a powerful and self-interested group would never use their resources to get “all the health authorities” to “sign off” on something that wasn’t actually safe.
The only truly great thing to come out of Covid:
“I AM THE DESIGNER OF THIS RESTAURANT’S OUTDOOR SEATING SPACE, AND THIS IS MY ARTIST’S STATEMENT
My work seeks to interrogate the parameters by which we define and demarcate physical space, exploring the fertile liminal zone between the falsely binary notions of “indoors” and “outdoors” we too often take for granted. I am compelled by asymptotes: What if you could get infinitely close to being indoors, while remaining, by some convoluted set of standards, outdoors? I am also intrigued by the extent to which perception can shape reality: What if all it took to be outdoors was a simple belief that you were? Finally, and perhaps most urgently: how many tables can I fit in here?”
https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/i-am-the-designer-of-this-restaurants-outdoor-seating-space-and-this-is-my-artists-statement
Boo-frigitty-hoo
I thought Frank’s speech was quite sweet, actually. I genuinely do not understand this mindset of “give winners 30 seconds to talk and then cut the mic.” Look deep inside yourself and ask, “Self, if I were an artist who finally achieved one of my craft’s highest honors, would I feel that 30 seconds would be adequate time for me to express my gratitude to the people who helped me?” Once again, these are speeches THANKING people important to the winners. Why are we so callous and intolerant of people spending more than 3 minutes thanking loved ones, coworkers, and peers for supporting them? It’s pretty sad, for the artists as well as the media-consuming public. It’s like we don’t want genuine human emotion – we think that’s indulgent and selfish. We just want the next obnoxious skit so we can laugh and whine about how unoriginal is it and how much award shows suck.
I don’t really know anything about any of this, but I do know that Seth Rogen is an asshole.Not as big an asshole as Joe Rogan, but let’s be real here: Who is?
I didn’t really pay attention to what he way saying as I was too distracted by his dressing up as Wally Cox.
“Producer Ian Stewart told Varietythat the crew had “worked for months and months to make that a safe space.””Why? Did no one tell these TV producers how to film stuff outdoors? Or, alternatively, was the concept of livestreaming from actors’ homes too advanced for them? Every 10 year old in the country went to school on their webcam last year, maybe they could explain Zoom to the guys in charge of the Emmys.
We were outraged the comedian said 100% truthful things in a funny way! How dare he!
Comedians should stick to words that sound dirty. Words like “mukluk”
It’s hilarious that the people complaining about Hollywood get togethers without masks are just ignoring the fact that these guys are probably pumped full of vaccines for this. Hey, you want to have parties anti-vaxxers? Get the damn shot.
so the audience wouldn’t think it was unsafe and unethical to be thereNarrator: it was.
Hello rest of the commenters:If you are spending time with other humans beings, even “outside”, who you do not live with, that is relatively serious mistake at this point. Especially if your reason for getting together with others is —> just eating a meal –> you are not making a correct choice.But, you do you.
It was honestly the easiest joke to make at the moment. The fact that the producer did not expect it says more about him.
Maybe dont have so many people indoors in the first place. He was right to point it out. Its not over, were not safe yet. Even vaccinated you can still carry and spread it.
What losers are even watching the Emmy’s in 2021? Arbitrary awards given out by people with opinions like everyone else. Things like the Emmy’s and the Oscar’s are such outdated relics, it’s pathetic.
Someone needs to spit some truth.
No masks, hard to believe health experts signed off on that. Should have been three minimum.
For the Scott Frank thing, I have always thought that the easy solution would be that if someone goes on too long you cut off their microphone and switch the cameras to focus on someone on a different part of the stage.
Am I alone in initially thinking the header photo was of Matt LeBlanc, not Seth Rogan? I apparently haven’t seen Seth in a long time.
Crap. Seth is looking OLD. I did NOT recognize him. Is it all the weed or what?
Lol fuck the emmys and fuck this Stewart guy.
He said what needed to be said.
I’m behind Seth on this one. Nothing like adding additional danger, whether you think it’s safe or not, all for the sake of allowing celebrities yo pat each other on the back. 🤷
“we’re working with health officials constantly” is exactly what my employer is using as a defense to “we worked a year and a half at home, some people were more productive, some people’s work is so isolated that they don’t even interact with anybody, we would have a 0% chance of something happening if people were at home, why tf are we not at home now?”“I’ve worked blah blah number of blah blah and we haven’t had anybody sick”… fucker, it’s not about who has or hasn’t gotten sick already, it’s that the propensity to get sick is heightened compared to other normal situations.
I don’t care how long they worked, gathering in a tight space with no masks when everyone and their brother is freaking out over COVID is a dumb move. You can’t cry about people not getting vaccinated and or not wearing masks out of one side of your face, then publicly through caution to the wind for a stupid award show, Hollywood. Then again, judging by the leadership in CA, both states and cities, par for the course.
Seth wasn’t wrong and wasnt out of line. While im sure there where plenty of safety steps taken that wasn’t connived to the audience at home. So the imagery of all these Hollywood types looking like the before times just adds fuel to the covid deniers fire.
very very dumb decision to hold the Emmys now with that large of an audience.
Meanwhile, 100,000 maskless people attend college football games and there aren’t any massive outbreaks. Maybe he’s being a weeeeeee bit dramatic.
Rogen is right. They sold it as outside so they didn’t have to wear masks, but it’s as inside as anywhere. It’s a BS loophole a bigger non tent ballroom with more spacing and AC turned up would have been safer than that cramped tent ballroom, but the law says the tent you can go no mask and a non tent ballroom you need masks. I’m other words they exploit loopholes and are hypocrites. Typical Hollywood liberal some animals are more equal than others.
These producers sound like some insufferable, pretentious crybabies. “How dare he have an opinion that makes us look bad!” They must think that celebrities are all just airheads who are there to sniff each other’s farts, look good for the paparazzi, and stick to the script. And the moment someone goes off that script and speaks their mind, they act like they’ve suffered the ultimate indignation. Give me a fucking break! They’re obviously feigning ignorance to the fact that Rogen’s statement must have SOME credibility as evidenced by how defensive and butthurt they’re acting. And let’s be honest; this is clearly a “rules for thee, not for me” type of situation. I bet the catering had to wear facemasks for the full event.
People watch the Emmys? I’d rather rewatch The Warriors for the 245th time than watch a bunch of self important fools suck themselves off for the 10th time this year…like they do every year.
No, Seth is right. Surprise, we are still in the middle of a pandemic. They “””””worked for months and months to make a safe space””””””” and yet, here they are in an enclosed space with thousands of unmasked and undistanced people. That’s the safety protocol you worked on for “months and months”? Yeah sure ok.
I didn’t need to give it more than a few seconds before I thought it looked unsafe, and Seth is not wrong. “Let me start by saying there are way too many of us in this little room! What are we doing?”These are actors, comedians, influencers. Not every single one is going to just “Follow the script”, especially when things changed from outdoors to indoors. His statement about what Seth said should’ve been “We tried, things changed, we followed the city and state blablabla”. It just makes him look like hes trying to save face when we also know that the State has been looser when it comes to TV and Film. Seth is just being real and calling it out.
Is it just me or does Ian Stewart sound insufferably pretentious?
It seems most people are missing the point of his comments. It wasn’t necessarily about how unsafe the event venue was, it was the fact that it’s ok for them to host an event like that. If the general public were to something similar it would be labeled a super spreader event. It’s the double standards
Thin Seth Rogen is just plain wrong…. Not about COVID, just plain wrong existentially speaking.
The whole entertainment industry elitist arrogance was thrown into the public’s face with their ego stroking reach around fest. Rogen is still an assclown but at least he had the guts to say what he did.
The only people who care about the Emmy’s, Oscar’s, Grammy’s, etc., are the self effacing narcissistic and thoroughly spoiled recipients who are overpaid and overrated from the get go! Rogen was most probably as high as a kite which is his usual state, so it was the cannabis talking….yeah, let’s just blame it on that!
Send the dinosaurs their awards in the mail and save us all infections, and useless articles.
Welcome to Nazi-’Murica. This country is one huge concentration camp.
Seth Rogen is one of the biggest assholes of all time! ♐