Is J.R.R. Tolkien drunkenly shouting in Elvish in that scene from Tolkien? Yes and no
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In Tolkien, the new biopic of the early life of fantasy writer J.R.R. Tolkien, the author (Nicholas Hoult) is attending Exeter College in Oxford when he receives a letter from Edith, his childhood sweetheart, announcing she’s engaged to someone else. Distraught, Tolkien gets drunk and winds up stumbling through the quad’s grass, which students aren’t supposed to be on, shouting in a made-up language. It’s one of the funniest scenes in the film, and about the only one that connects his later work with his earlier life in a natural and clever way.
I don’t claim to speak Elvish (or “Quenya,” as the most fully-formed version is actually called), but as someone who’s seen The Lord Of The Rings trilogy countless times, the drunken Tolkien sounded like he was babbling in the same Elvish language spoken by Arwen, Elrond, and Galadriel in the film adaptations. In Tolkien, the scene piques the interest of a philology professor, who says he detected Finnish—the language Tolkien drew heavily from when crafting Quenya, the High-Elf language. (Tolkien eventually created six different Elvish languages.)
But, as Tolkien director Dome Karukoski told The A.V. Club, that scene takes place when Tolkien was still in university, when he was just beginning to create the mythology of Middle-earth. Tolkien wrote the languages first, drawing much of his stories and characters from the words he made up for them, letting the words and languages be the driving forces, in a way. Tolkien’s first endeavor was The Silmarillion, the backbone of the mythology he’d draw on when writing The Hobbit and especially The Lord Of The Rings. But he hadn’t fleshed out the elves yet, even though he was creating the language that would eventually be spoken by them.
“He’s thinking about fairies, so what he shouts is more a language of fairies,” Karukoski told The A.V. Club about the scene. To make the language accurate to the time, the director worked with a linguist to come up with a sort of proto-Elvish language. “Tolkien was using the Finnish language, to the point where he was even learning Finnish grammar,” says Karukoski, who is himself Finnish. “So we used that as a base.” He and the linguist, who specializes in Anglo-Saxon language, reverse-engineered Tolkien’s Elvish into how it might have sounded at this earlier stage in Tolkien’s life.
And what is Tolkien saying? “He’s citing Christ, he’s looking for the heavens for an answer because he’s lost love,” Karukoski says. “He’s looking at the northern star and that forms an idea in his mind—the idea of the Eärendil.” (Eärendil appears in The Silmarillion. He’s a child of men and elves who carries the morning star, the jewel called “Silmaril,” on his brow. Galadriel gives Frodo a phial with the light of Eärendil in The Fellowship Of The Ring.)
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But does this movie show Tolkien thinking about his whole life right before he writes The Hobbit?
Tim Meadows showing up periodically to not quite offer Tolkien drugs could only have improved this movie.
You don’t want any of this halfling’s weed JRR.
I’m glad this will clarify things for the 12 people who saw Tolkien
Yeah I’m not gonna see this
Then you are free to help me move.
On second thought I’ll see this twice
Ah yes, buff Tolkien. That’s believable.
Oh, I’m saving my laughs for “Rocketman” featuring a “Elton Jonn WISHES he looked like that back in the 70s”, Taron Egerton.
“He’s thinking about fairies, so what he shouts is more a language of fairies”And we’re supposed to believe that Edith wouldn’t want to lock that down?
That photo looks way too much like a serial killer in his lair from some awful procedural cop show.
So a procedural cop show?
I’m sure all 5 of the people on this board that will actually put on clothes and pay money to a movie theatre to see this movie are grateful for the information.Oh, and the 28 or so who will eventually give up an afternoon to watch it on Netflix or Amazon eventually.
I actually would like to see this, it’s playing in my town but I’m busy for the next week, so it will probably disappear and I’ll never find out the truth about Berien…
A harsh but very accurate take on my level of interest in this movie.
Pffft. Big deal – did he invent Klingon? Hah! I think not. Check and mate, nerds!
The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings were books first?
I don’t claim to speak ElvishI do; this translates as “You ain’t nothing but a hound dog, crying all the time.”
I’m more curious about the connection between his depiction of Mordor and his experiences in WWI. How the great war molded the narrative of LotR in ways that post-WWII audiences may not entirely grasp.