Well, that was a bummer.
In a way, maybe it makes sense. The Flash is, if not quite yet winding down, at least on the downward slope, with one more season to follow this one. Lately the show has been peeling away some of the core elements that made it a fun ride―the multiverse, the various Wellses, the traditional Rogues and supporting superheroes (though Elongated Man’s departure wasn’t really part of a master plan). Word came down just today that two original cast members will be gone by season’s end (but more on that later). So life in prison for the no-longer-Killer Frost? That fits with the general trend, even if it doesn’t end up making a lot of sense.
Frost has admitted her guilt and waived her trial, so all that remains is the judge’s sentencing. Cecile is convinced that Frost’s heroic deeds will outweigh her earlier crimes, and that she’ll get off with a relatively light sentence. Kristen Kramer has other ideas, however. Acting on her behalf, the prosecutor urges the judge to order Frost to take the metahuman cure, stripping her of her powers forever. She equates this with taking the right to bear arms away from a felon, arguing that the metahuman’s powers are a weapon just the same.
As Frost argues, it’s more complicated than that, as being a metahuman is part of her DNA, and her very identity will be lost if she’s forced to take the cure. There’s a free-floating metaphor here about the morality of prosecuting someone for who they were born as, and you can apply it to any number of current social issues, but it’s pretty clear this would be a ghastly turn of events, as well as a bad precedent for all the other metas. And I would be remiss if I didn’t point out that this is something Cisco should have anticipated back when he was inventing the cure, although somehow he never thinks to blame himself in the episode. (After all, who could possibly foresee the American justice system overstepping its bounds in such a manner?)
Kudos to Danielle Panabaker for giving a strong emotional performance with herself, but this whole plot is a bit of a drag, livened up briefly with the almost-botched attempt at neutralizing the meta cure at CCPD. (In the end, that doesn’t turn out to matter, as ARGUS has already duplicated the formula.) The resolution, with Frost requesting and receiving a life sentence without the possibility of parole, just feels unnecessarily grim. After all, the judge still could have used her own…well, judgment to give Frost a lesser sentence given her world-saving efforts, regardless of whether Kramer felt it was sufficient. Perhaps there’s another shoe to drop later in the season, but if this is Frost’s sendoff, it’s an unfortunate turn of events.
You’d think Frost’s buddy the Flash might at least drop by to offer his support and help sway the judge, but nah, he’s too busy dealing with the Forces situation. When Fuerza’s isotype signature pops back up, Barry and Nora go to investigate, finding only a volunteer health worker named Alexa on the scene. Barry suggests that she come in to STAR Labs for a scan, but the Speed Force is a little too demanding about it for Alexa’s liking. Barry returns later as the Flash and manages to convince her to come in for testing, which reveals that she is indeed the human host for Fuerza.
That’s all Nora needs to see, as she blasts Alexa with her lightning and tricks Barry into doubling up her lightning power to deliver the killing blow. Nora’s odd behavior over the past few episodes has certainly suggested this path, and now it appears to be the case: the Big Bad is not the other Forces, but the Speed Force. That could definitely create some interesting complications for Barry going forward, but hopefully he’ll at least take a minute to notice his team has gotten a little smaller.
Stray observations
- As alluded to above, Tom Cavanagh and Carlos Valdes are both departing The Flash by season’s end. That’s certainly not a surprise in the case of Cavanagh, who is basically already gone, although he will apparently have a few guest turns later in the season. As for Valdes, it feels like he’s had one foot out the door for a few seasons now, so it’s not a huge shock in his case either. Now the introduction of the STAR Labs B-team over the past year or so becomes a little clearer, but it’s still something of a disappointment. Team Flash isn’t quite the same without Cisco and Wells bantering and trading barbs.
- So Alexa got angry at Abra Kadabra, and blacked out, and Fuerza appeared and wreaked havoc? That sounds a little familiar. At least she didn’t say “FUERZA SMASH!”
- Did I mishear, or was Kramer talking to an Agent Cooper in the first scene? Blasphemy!
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This decision to send Frost to prison for life is dumb & unjust and this episode should feel dumb & unjustI will miss Cisco and Wells but we maybe have had enough Wellses, and Carlos Valdes has seemingly wanted out for a whileOh my god the speed force is a crazy b*tch
It’s not like the show did anything actually interesting with either of them. Probably for the best.
That’s not true! They were both given some really interesting material……in season one.
Exactly![tangent: even if you take out all the context, just look and listen to that, compared to the modern version of the show. The way the scene takes over 4 minutes, for a start, even though it cuts out some minutes of Cisco working it out before the clip starts. Even though the scene is ultimately unimportant – everything is rewritten through time travel – they give it space to play out. Thawne looks so… unhurried. And it’s paired with ominous – but not dominating – music and dramatic lighting that makes the room look both bigger and less plasticky than anything in the modern version of Star Labs. Together it all has something that there was a lot of in that first season, but that was rapidly lost: an air of menace. The first season could be silly, and was usually optimistic, but it also could be menacing, often even slightly horror-tinged. Reverse Flash is to a large extent more like the villain in a horror film than like the villain in an action film. (the same could, to a lesser extent, be said of Deathstroke over on S2 of Arrow). That’s been lost to create a superficially more ‘exciting’ version of the show that opts for flashy spectacle instead of lengthy scenes of menace and character development like this one…]
Yeah it feels like Valdez tried to quit a few seasons back but got talked into a reduced number of appearances which must have mollified him for a bit. Oh well, they’d already done a number on his character anyway.
Frost is accused of some VERY serious crimes, facing some potentially serious time, and they just let her walk around free? I get bail, but in that circumstance the prosecution would almost certainly ask for remand.Why isn’t the Flash – testifying as a character witness?Speed Force is sus.Where are the actual other forces? The Speed Force is a being unto itself, but all we’ve seen of the other forces is their avatars. They’re comparable to Barry.I hate…HATE…the story line trope of whenever the heroes do something a little underhanded, it immediately blows up in their face. It feeds into the truth that superhero stories aren’t about truth or justice, but about maintaining the status quo.That Caitlin/Frost scene. I know somebody that I’ll be nominating for performer of the month.Well, now the Speed Force is a little more than sus.I hated that Frost story line. It had shades of the gross experimentation, sterilizations, and other things that have been applied to POC. And at the end of it all, Joe says he respects Kramer.
Kramer is a garbage person and far more of a monster than Frost
While Kramer is garbage, she’s a person with a vendetta. What really horrified me was how everybody was basically just okay with giving Frost the cure. Joe even said that Kramer was a good person afterward.
He was very distinct that she was a “good cop” and doubled down he still didn’t agree with her methods, only that he respected her for being on the same side of the law. Which is still more than she deserves, personally, but Joe was pretty clear to me he did not care for her as a person, still. It’s like people who played with Michael Jordan. Did they *like* him? Outside of a couple of exceptions, no. But they respected him. Joe has respect for her chasing justice, but in that Joe West way, let her know the cop version of “chiggity check yourself before you wreck yourself”
>all, Joe says he respects Kramer.This really struck a foul note to me. Even more so if you consider they were laying the metaphor on thick this week about what powers represent. Yep you’re totally a good cop for being mad at all *insert ethnic/gender/sexuality group here* because one *insert ethnic/gender/sexuality group here* did a bad thing one, and now you want to forcefully convert them to no longer being *insert ethnic/gender/sexuality group here*. That’s seriously yikes.
Since season five established that Killer Frost wasn’t a meta created by dark matter, would that cure even effect her? Should I just chalk up all continuity discrepancies to COIE from now on?
I doubt Killer Frost’s sentencing will be permanent. It’s cruel & unusual given the charges. Of course she’ll probably be pardoned to do emergency superheroics without needing to appeal. That or new Task Force X.
Caitlin confessed to hacking CCPD’s security during the sentencing trial but oddly isn’t arrested for that.
Looks like Fuerza was whitewashed before she was murdered.
I hope they’ll give Reverse-Flash a fitting send-off. He ended the fifth season on a triumphant note but didn’t appear in Crisis as foreshadowed. Then he was randomly a red lightning ghost Post-Crisis. Or they can just have Matt Letscher resume playing Thawne.
Kinja borked that last paragraph’s formatting since hyperlinking still hasn’t been fixed in months.
They had and entire conversation about what the cure would do to Frost since she’s not a dark matter meta.How was Fuerza whitewashed?
Well, Killer Frost has been in at least one Suicide Squad lineup, so who knows?
Maybe Diggle can recruit Frost to be the new Suicide Squad team leader
Everything about that Frost plot was as dumb as a bag of rocks, holy fuck. If nothing else the appeal if the case went against Frost would’ve dragged on for years.That being said, I did like the B-plot with Barry and the Speedforce finally showing its true face.
Everything about this Flash season is as dumb as a bag of rocks.
Legally, this was absurd. It doesn’t usually bother me, but it bothered me today. Just, incredibly stupid and not how things work. Also not looking forward to more emphasis on the Speed Force, although hopefully they’ll continue to expose it to be more…hostile, than it currently is. Losing Cavanagh and Valdes is a bummer, although Cavanagh has been obviously gone for a while and Valdes is, apparently, replaceable. Might be time to wrap this one up, I’m afraid.
Has there ever been a good trial episode in a non-legal show (I kinda count Better Call Saul as one of those)? Even Hannibal’s sucked.
Even the shows devoted to the legal system cheat and shortcut the process. It’s just one of those things where in a short-form medium where an episodic-based story needs to wrap in 42 minutes (especially one that isn’t a courtroom-genre show that has to juggle several plots and move them along like The Flash), you have to be willing as a viewer to give it some room to operate in its own universal logic. The same way you have to do when watching superhero shows/movies and let go why shared-universe heroes in the same vicinity don’t help each other more often.
I’ve found it fun to watch LegalEagle dissect some of these absurd trials… and also Shaggy’s “It wasn’t me” Defence
Community, of course.And The Brady Bunch.
Would you count Bosch? Because Bosch has an excellent courtroom scene in S5.
Haven’t seen it.
ST:TNG, “The Drumhead”, though I’ve no idea if it’s faithful to Future Space Law.
Yeah I love that one.
You’ve watched this show for how long and this is what you find absurd?
I mean, yes. Obviously there’s other “absurd” stuff; I’ll admit it bothered more than this stuff usually does. Dunno why.
I move for a bad court thingy.
The judge was like the female judge on Futurama whose response to any absurd motion by counsel was always (pause) “I’ll allow it”
You mean the head of the DOOP? “I’m going to allow this.”
The defendant is found guilty of murder.
The general public: Hooray! We got em! Justice is served!
All the lawyers involved: Now the real work begins.
Meh, sentencing is a much better fit for writers. On the defense side, at least, one does get to throw pretty much everything against the wall in the hope that something sticks. If that’s not a fair summation of a CW writer’s job, I don’t know what is.It was pretty absurd how many extra crimes were confessed to and ignored, sure. But the sentencing drama by itself was just… there. It was rote. We even got the “I was raped by actors, and that’s why I hate them” bullshit from supercop lady.
After watching Lex Luthor’s trial last month over on Supergirl, I feel like I’m properly calibrated for what actually counts as absurd. That shit was bonkers even by TV standards.
I am a lawyer and I spent the first part of my career as a trial lawyer. This episode was bad, but Daredevil Season 2 still takes the cake for dumbest legal proceeding ever on a television show. I almost never let legal inaccuracy for the sake of drama bother me, but in the case of Daredevil every character acted so absurd (Major murder trial held within a week of arrest cuz reasons!) that I just dropped the series in disgust. Everything about the trial of a major character (no more specifics to avoid spoilers) was just so dumb that it was an insult to the audience. Reading the AV Club comment sections for those episodes is really funny, as everyone was like: “What?!”That will always be the benchmark for ridiculous court drama in a series. I can’t imagine it ever being worse than that.
Ah, yes. Daredevil Season 2, where we learned in the Marvel Universe, treating a witness as hostile doesn’t mean you get to ask leading questions, it means you get to make a speech and say whatever you want.
Yes. You remember exactly what I am talking about. Dramatic leeway is one thing, open absurdity that makes the viewer roll his or her eyes is another. DD crossed that line while Matt gave his speech and the Judge sat and played computer solitaire or whatever while the whole thing grew more and more ridiculous.
Daredevil was amazingly bad at courtroom stuff, unforgivably so for a show whose main characters are *lawyers*. It was like a child had written it.I don’t expect writers of a superhero show to know the law, but you’d think one of them would’ve seen an episode or two of Law and Order.
Amen
Agree. I said this on the equally bad Supergirl’s trial of Lex Luthor. Daredevil is the worst trial I have ever seen on TV, and what bugs me most about it is I am also a lawyer. Daredevil is supposed to be one too and that is what bugged me the most. It is like they put zero effort into the most basic thing their main character did.
I think what makes the Daredevil trial so egregious is that it tried so hard to be a “realistic,” “gritty” show. Similarly ridiculous shenanigans on shows like Supergirl and Flash just don’t grate as much because the whole tone is already so much sillier.
Agree completely. I mostly just laugh at shows like Supergirl with its goofy trial scenes. But Daredevil is not only gritty, but the main character is supposed to be a lawyer, and it was obvious they put like zero effort into it
This was so, so stupid. Let the judge sentence Frost to the cure, then appeal! It would take years, and aside from the delay it would actually serve a greater purpose by allowing the judicial system to work it out and (ideally) come up with appropriate and Constitutional punishments for Metas. Meanwhile, Frost, still a meta, sits in prison awaiting the appeal and also whatever plot development the writers intend to use to spring her before the end of the season.So stupid.
It seems like Killer Frost should have gotten a better lawyer.Like has she even killed anyone in the show? Why is she the meta that is being made an extreme example of other than story reasons?
I wonder if Danielle is tired of having to wear the makeup for Frost
Mainly, story reasons. But also, Kramer said that it was Frost’s insistence on being trusted and treated as a hero and reformed criminal that made her the first target, which was an admitted personal vendetta from experience.
The story suffered because of the choice though. Kramer’s point might have been more compelling if she was targeting a past villain we had seen murder innocent people, especially if it were a recurring threat. By making her target Frost, the show is basically making it so there’s no argument at all to support Kramer. Which makes it a less interesting plot overall.
Everyone’s covered the legal subplot; I’ve long made my peace with how the Arrowverse justice system works expeditiously (going all the way back to the first season when Quentin Lance tried to arrest Oliver on the grounds he was The Hood). So yes, it’s a little more simple and streamlined that your average Perry Mason episode (the old school, non-wiener-swinging version) and more illogical than the cases on Night Court, but it did the one thing that made the trip worth it, which is the excellent performance of Danielle Panabaker. The true test of a double performance is if I stop “looking” for the same actor occupying the same space and accept the two separate characters as they are, and she pulled that off wonderfully here. I also fully believe we have not seen the last of Frost; you don’t even need to wade into other Arrowverse shows to know that stipulations, legal punishments, even death are no barrier to bringing someone back into the fold when needed.On the other side, I dig the idea of a malevolent Speed Force perverting the image and persona of Nora Allen. We (and of course, Barry) always see Nora as this pure source of love-power that fuels Barry on being The Flash, so the idea of the Speed Force embodying Nora for malicious means opens up some interesting showdowns ahead. Also nice of Iris to stop by just long enough to figure into the finish.
(going all the way back to the first season when Quentin Lance tried to arrest Oliver on the grounds he was The Hood)tbf, Oliver was totally killing people back in season one, I think that arresting the known murdering vigilante is grounds for arrest.
Not so much the”arrest” part but how quickly that was resolved.
That was, for its many, many faults, better than I expected. Way back after the riots last year I seem to recall the show runners talking about tackling the policing issue this season – I don’t know if they specifically meant this arc, but at least the Frost stuff feels like it’s a metaphor for something, which I don’t recall the show ever really doing before. It’s all a bit X-Men-ish but that’s not a bad thing.It does seem weird that the episode relegates Barry to the B-plot that doesn’t even bother to check in on Frost’s fate, though the twist with the speed force does bear interesting fruit. Was expecting Fuerza to be completely barbecued after that energy blast but she’s just mildly burned.
I noped out of the show back when it yankwashed mirrormaster no.2 from a likeable but vicious Scots assassin to another bland American villain ( couldn’t give a toss about the gender) .Looking at these episode reviews I think I made the right choice.
Thank you for “yankwashed.”
I was sure that Caitlin would throw on a wig and some makeup and take the cure while the real Frost skipped town in disguise. I guess a happy ending is less preferable to a downer, but that’s what this show has become. No one can every have a satisfying conclusion; they have to make stupid choices and be constantly depressed.
So has the Flash not earned enough goodwill that he could appeal to the governor to grant a pardon to Frost?
I think it’s a safe assumption that as we get closer to the season-ending fight, Frost will be back with a “we need everyone, so I asked for a pardon contingent on good behavior” reveal.
You raise a good point about criminal law in superhero worlds: it’s always a city’s justice system that tends to rely on superhero help against supervillains, so when and how does it go up to the State or Federal level?
I mean, he’s literally saved the world numerous times, you’d think at least he’d have some pull on the state level, if not the federal.
The Flash had the strongest first season of any Arrowverse show. Cavanagh was a super compelling Thawne, and Gustin’s Flash brought some much needed joy to the Arrowverse. It pains me to say, but for me the show has been in steady decline ever since. There are way too many episodes like this one that are a glum slog where the plot makes very little sense in the universe the show has established.I am not saying this to be a hater. I am happy if other folks are getting more out of this show than I am. It certainly still has its moments, and the performances by the main cast are still uniformly enjoyable. But for me, a messy second season followed by a pretty weak stab at Flashpoint started a slide in quality from which this show has never really recovered. It is telling that my favorite moments for the Flash in a long time was the Book of Destiny cross-over which was making fun of the show’s strange habits. At this point, I am keeping up with Flash and his team out of habit more than anything else, which is a real shame. There has been so much to like about the show over the years, but the story never seemed to really come together after that fantastic first season. There have just been way too many episodes like this one that just don’t work.
I stopped watching The Flash after the third season because what was the “fun” super-hero show on the CW network turned into a grim slog with an almost deliberate sadistic pleasure of rubbing the fun-ness in the viewers face.
This is about where I am.I currently have this episode running now, and it is the last thing I’m focused on. I just can’t find it in me to care about what’s going on. I know they’ve been renewed for an eighth season, but they need to let that be it. Give it a short Legends-like season, no more tripe like this, and send it out to the farm.
Why didn’t Flash show up as a character witness?
Because any prosecutor worth their salt would have immediately demanded that he reveal his identity.
I just thought it was Covid restrictions which is the excuse being used for plot holes in a lot of shows.
Jokes on them. If they don’t ask him he’ll unmask after a pleasant 2 minute conversation.
The Flash is, if not quite yet winding down, at least on the downward slope, with one more season to follow this one.I have no idea what you’re basing that on. CW renewal announcements have consistently identified final seasons, and Flash season 8 is not one of them. If something goes wrong in the contract negotiations currently happening, there could be a surprise cancelation or announcement that 8 is the last one, but given the CW’s pattern of behavior over the last decade, there is no reason to believe the show won’t run at least 9.
I could have sworn I’d seen that announcement, but I must have hallucinated it.
They did renew this for next season, but I think you have to take that as not a given. The quality of the arrowverse shows has really fallen off a cliff, and the ratings have equally sunk. Early renewals are not written in stone and I see they are reconsidering their Batwoman early renewal. Plus, I have seen multiple stories that they are trying to beg Gustin to stay as his contract is done next season and everyone seems ready to move on and he will only stay if they do the literal dumptruck full of money, which the CW does not do.
I hate to be that guy, but quality doesn’t matter in the slightest for network TV show renewal. Ratings, specifically those compared to other shows on the same network, do matter…though much less at CW than other networks, particularly for any shows that premiered between 2011 and 2019. They’re getting filming subsidies from Vancover on the front end, and guaranteed Netflix money on the back end for the lifetime of the show. Batwoman is in danger because it premiered after the exclusivity deal with Netflix ended. That show will continue getting distributed through HBO Max, but money moving between two subsidiaries is less valuable to the corporate overlords than money moving away from Netflix and into AT&T.You must have misread the stories about Gustin’s contract, because that doesn’t expire next year, it expires this year. COVID disrupted contract negotiations that should have been happening last summer and fall, but the decision makers (who let’s be honest, are not CW executives, CW is nothing but a content distribution channel for WB and CBS) went ahead and gave it the season 8 renewal anyway. As I said, if something goes wrong in the active negotiations, it could mean a change from the usual pattern of behavior. But the current assumption should be continuing through at least season 9.
Yeah, I knew they all have seven year contracts, but I thought maybe Gustin was different since it seemed to be assumed he would be back. I do not think that is even close to a sure thing. They had to beg Amell to come back for a short season 7, and he agreed solely because of crisis and they would give a proper goodbye to his character (so he claims but I believe it with him since he was so gung ho about his character and supposedly can talk about every episode even now with details). I am pretty sure that is why they cancelled supergirl, because their contracts were up and they did not want to give them raises.And yes, crap shows get renewed with good ratings, but to the extent quality means ratings, it is related. Quality can also get marginal shows renewed. The Americans on TNT was renewed with crap ratings, so was Halt and Catch Fire on AMC. Both were critic darlings. I also definitely think Legends on the CW got renewed because the critics like it more than the ratings, which are crap. I am sure the CW wants the Flash back because it gets the best ratings out of all the arrowverse shows, but if everyone thinks they are now crap and stops watching, that can change minds in a hurry, renewal or not. If they have not even signed Gustin yet and cast are leaving, I do not think the early renewal means anything at all in this case.
Quality doesn’t mean ratings, as you’ve pointed out with your list of critical darlings. Which, I’ll note, are all cable programs where the revenue stream is different. Network television shows are paid for with shooting subsidies, ad revenue, and syndication deals. Ad revenue is dependent on ratings, syndication is dependent on episode count. A first or second season show’s renewal depends on whether the network thinks a random new project could score better ratings in its place, so don’t be in the bottom 20% of a network’s ratings. A third season show is unlikely to be canceled until at least after season 5, because 100 episodes means likely syndication money. You have to do catastrophically in order to be canceled with 80 episodes in the can. That, right there, is 90% of renew/cancel decisions for broadcast TV.CW’s a special animal, because for 10 years they had an exclusive deal with Netflix. In effect, they had guaranteed syndication for every show, from season 1, in perpetuity. Legends of Tomorrow was renewed because at least until contract renewal time, it’s cheaper to keep making a show you’ve got going than it is to spin up another one, and it doesn’t matter how few people watch, Netflix was required to buy it.The quality improvement after season 1 was a pleasant surprise for the audience. You and I benefitted from that happening. But it had nothing to do with getting renewed, because you and I are not the customer, we are the product.
I do agree with you and you make a good case, but the CW DOES get ad revenue and I would assume they would rather have both, because why wouldn’t you? You get netflix money and good ratings? It seems like that would be a win win. Plus, if netflix is getting stuck with a bunch of ratings dogs they have to air that would not be a very good deal for them and would then not renew with the CW. I have heard HBO Max does not want the CW to do the “its only a hit on the CW” ratings for their shows and that is one of the reasons why they seem to be trying to appeal to a larger audience with Stargirl and Superman
Sure, they’d love ad revenue. But ratings are a competition within a network, not across networks. Nothing CW debuts is going to hang out above a 0.3 share, so while they might dream of one day being ABC, those dreams aren’t the basis for business decisions. You can say, “this show is averaging a 0.1 across the season, some new show is likely to pull at least a 0.2, maybe we can consider canceling it.” But, if they cancel Legends for debuting at 0.1 and probably slumping over the season, the show they replace it with won’t be a part of the expired Netflix deal, so the calculus changes.More on topic though, The Flash’s ratings are abysmal compared to other networks. They’re abysmal compared to The Flash 5 years ago. It’s down 40% year-over-year. But the context you’re missing is that so has everything else on CW, and to an extent, across network TV. Superman & Lois was considered a smash hit, pulling down a 0.28 average across the episodes aired. The Flash has a 0.25. Season 1 of The Flash averaged a 1.44.Saying the ratings are going down is meaningless if all the ratings are always going down. Now is when the decisions are being made, so you compare now to other options now.
Not gonna lie, on top of everything else I was a little disappointed that Barry didn’t yelp, “Mom you’re embarrassing me!” at the end.
Frost was sent away for budgetary reasons, people! Less money spent on CGI and less hours spent on shooting her angles.
And less time & money for make-up.
When Kramer mentioned how a meta wiped out her platoon, did she say, or was there a hint as to who it was? Also, I assume that happened a while ago, so I have to wonder what she’s been doing all this time if she hates metas so much. Sitting in a room being angry? Waiting for a previously bad one to go legit so she could enact some nebulous scheme to arrest them? She must be aware that there are a LOT of bad metas around.Nora being a bad ‘un is a relatively interesting turn of events, although her motive seems to be “There can be only one! Force! If Cisco makes a Star Wars joke I’ll fry him!”
“When Kramer mentioned how a meta wiped out her platoon, did she say, or was there a hint as to who it was?”For some reason I just assumed this was Grodd.
The Boys spent two whole season asking the question “should supers serve with the military” (in their case – a resounding “no”); Falcon and the Winter Soldier had something to say about that too, given how integral the military was to Captain America’s origins; and even sister series Black Lightning did a commentary on it with their Markovia war plotline and Gravedigger. But over here on The Flash, metas support the troops already, and damn the consequences…The deliberate omission of who this meta was that led Kramer’s platoon to their doom makes me think that it’ll come back later on as a plot thread, or at the very least inspire a villain-of-the-week.
I, too, am curious about why either Barry or The Flash didn’t take the stand as a character witness.I’m also curious about the meta who killed Kramer’s platoon, and if we’ve seen them before, or if they’ll pop up again.Also, just what IS the Speed Force? Is there one in each universe, or does it spread out across all universes? I thought that’s how the 2 Flashes played by Grant Gustin and Ezra Miller were able to talk to each other, when they thought that was impossible.
There’s more than 2 cast members leaving the show. With Killer Frost being sent to prison for life, her actress will no longer be on the show. Which means more screen time for the actress playing Caitlin.I miss getting to make this joke about Orphan Black.