The Flash‘s Andy Muschietti is getting his own Batman movie
James Gunn has confirmed that It director Muschietti will be directing new Batman film The Brave And The Bold
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Breaking news: Flash director somehow not yet sick of superheroes, we guess.
This is per THR, which reports tonight that director Andy Muschietti has already signed on for a return trip to the DC Films universe. Specifically, Muschietti—who’s spent years putting together his Flash movie, with all the CGI wrangling, bad press defusing, multiverse-exploding work such a gig entails—has signed on to direct The Brave And The Bold, a new live-action film that will introduce yet another Batman to movie-going audiences. (The eighth, by our count, because hot damn but does Warner Bros. love having a new Batman to roll out.)
Brave And The Bold has been on the books since the start of this year, when newly minted DC Films heads James Gunn and Peter Safran showed off their first look at their upcoming slate of post-Snyderverse DC projects. The film will introduce yet another Bruce Wayne to the movie mix, while also introducing the character of Damian Wayne, Batman’s assassin-raised son, a fan-favorite sociopath from the comics.
As for Muschietti, it’s pretty clear already that the It director is a big fan of the Caped Crusader, since The Flash is practically a Batman movie, too, what with both Ben Affleck and Michael Keaton playing the character. (Keaton, especially is basically the film’s third lead, taking on a reluctant mentor role for the dimension-hopping Barry Allen.) Muschietti will also produce on the film with his sister, Barbara, his regular collaborator on his films.
Gunn and Safran skipped the usual “deny everything on Twitter” part that usually accompanies a reveal like this, instead issuing a statement tonight saying that, “We saw The Flash even before taking the reins at DC Studios, and knew we were in the hands of not only a visionary director but a massive DC fan. It’s a magnificent film–funny, emotional, thrilling–and Andy’s affinity and passion for these characters and this world just resonates through every frame. So, when it came time to find a director for The Brave And The Bold, there was really only one choice. Luckily, Andy said yes. Barbara signed on to produce with us and we were on our way. They’re an extraordinary team, and we couldn’t have better or more inspiring partners as we embark on this thrilling new adventure in the DCU.”
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So, in this film, will they operate with the conceit that Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake and Stephanie Brown had stints as Robin? I guess we’ll see.I wonder how old this Batman will allegedly be, in-world.Who will play Talia, or Ra’s al Ghul?
I suspect they’ll be streamlining things a bit. Maybe Dick and Jason at most.
“I guess we’ll see.”
No, they’re OBVIOUSLY not going to start a universe with a dozen former Robins.
Jesus. James Gunn is losing my respect. This flash movie was terrible and now they’re giving this hack his own batman movie?!
Warner shouldn’t be allowed to get any new Batmen until they’re finished with the Batmen they have.
“We have Batman at home!”
This is the just the result of successive regimes inheriting stuff and trying to keep the train rolling no matter what.
I’m sure all involved are immensely happy that the Reeves batman was great, well received and profitable, but I have no doubt that in those quiet moments when no one can hear, inside their heads the likes of Gunn and Safran say to themselves “I really wish that Matt Reeves movie was a bust, then we could simply cancel that franchise and just make one batman series for simplicity sake”.
OTOH, they don’t seem to be at all concerned with having internal continuity the way Marvel is, so maybe they don’t care at all. The DCU has barely been a “U” in any meaningful sense of the word. There’s at least three distinct timelines going on even before Gunn’s new slate blows it all up (Snyderverse, Matt Reeves’ Batman, and Joker). And even within the Snyderverse, you can almost feel the movies trying to distance themselves from each other. Hell, the first and second Suicide Squad movies wouldn’t even have anything to do with each other if it wasn’t for Harley Quinn.
Snyderverse was never a timeline.
Wonder Woman—>Wonder Woman 84—>Man of Steel—>BvS—>Justice League. And the Harley Quinn movies and the Aquaman movies fit in somewhere that I can’t be bothered to waste time figuring out.You can be pedantic about what you want to call it if you want, but they all follow the same actors playing the same characters with some vague sense of continuity.
Yeah, what you’re describing is just DC. I’m not disputing there being a timeline of DC movies. I’m disputing the lunacy of calling something “snyderverse”. It’s DC. Yes, there was indeed a timeline. I fully agree. It was never and will never be called “snyderverse”.
You might not like it (either the term or the movies, and you’ll get no argument from me on either opinion), but it’s a commonly used term for the films he directed, of which movies like Suicide Squad, Aquaman, and The Flash are more or less connected to:
https://superhero-films.fandom.com/wiki/Snyderverse
https://comicbook.com/dc/news/is-flash-movie-ending-dceu-snyderverse-dc-studios-universe-connections/
https://www.cbr.com/dceu-snyderverse-biggest-mistakes/
It’s lunacy to call it snyderverse. Snyder hasn’t had any input since 2017. It’s DC or DCEU if you feel like it. Never the snyderverse. That’s a made up name by a cult.
Show me on the Batman doll where Zach Snyder hurt you.
For someone who claims not to like them, you sure do sound like one of those Snyder cult members. You’re blatantly attempting to gaslight me.
Again, just because you don’t like the term doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. They’re shit movies, with a shitty term to describe them. Snyder made the movies that form the framework of the films. There are a lot of crazier, dumber ways names have been granted to things.
Okay, so shazam 1 and 2, are they snyderverse in your system? Yes or no? Also, while we’re at it, why is named snyderverse when snyder stopped working on dc in 2017 and there’s 6 years of later continuity movies with nothing to do with him? By your logic, should we call the MCU the Favreauverse?
You’re really overcomplicating this.First, it’s not “my” logic or “my” system, it’s just a term that’s commonly used, whether or not you like it. So if people are calling the Shazam movies part of it, I don’t know and don’t really care. I’ve never seen them, don’t intend to, and wouldn’t know if they draw from the same characters or continuity or not.It’s still called the Snyderverse even though he’s not part of it anymore because that’s the term that popped up to refer to them, and inertia’s a thing. Sorry you don’t like the term, but you’re gonna be pushing a big rock up a really big hill to try and make the world change to your taste all the time.
As for the “Favreauverse” (again, none of these are terms *I* invented), no one calls it that, probably because it hasn’t been necessary to differentiate continuities in the MCU. “Synderverse” probably popped up because the DC movies have split off into multiple independent continuities all happening at the same time (ie, Ben Affleck’s Batman vs Robert Pattinson’s or Joaquin Phoenix or Jared Leto’s Joker). The MCU hasn’t done that. They’ve recast roles, but haven’t (AFAIK) created multiple parallel continuities.
Can we be done with this now?
No, I’m pointing out how stupid the phrase snyderverse is and how it was a nonsensical word coined by nut jobs wanting to assign ownership of movies to one director, even if said director was long gone for 6 years and counting. It’s dc or DCEU if you want to get technical. Never, under any circumstance, snyderverse. End of story.
You seem to be under the delusion you have some control over this situation. Best of luck with that.
Gunn and Safran have been quite clear that the new DCU is completely interconnected. Gunn: “We’re coming into a world where superheroes exist and have existed for some time in one form or another, and that’s the universe. We are telling a big, huge central story that is like Marvel, except that I think we’re a lot more planned out than Marvel from the beginning because we’ve gotten a group of writers together to work the story out completely.”Safran: “The DCU’s a multiverse, but we’re going to be focusing on one universe from that multiverse,” explains Safran. “And if something isn’t DCU, we’re going to make that very clear. So, strictly adult fare like Todd Phillips’ Joker, or kids animation like Teen Titans Go!, we’re going to make it very clear that those are DC Elseworlds, just the same way that they do it in the comic books.”I’m quite sure Mr. Smith is correct and Gunn and Safran would prefer not to have the Joker and The Batman movies existing at the same as their new DCU. Because let’s be frank, it’s confusing as fuck. Their trying to make a Marvel style unified universe and there’s going to be multiple Batmans and Jokers in it. Not to mention, WBD can only make so many movies per year so that interferes with their slate.
“except that I think we’re a lot more planned out than Marvel from the beginning”Eh. Deliver on that and then do the victory lap about your fantastic planning.
I have no problem with Gunn saying that. Despite what a lot of MCU fans claim (and I’m an MCU fan myself) it was not planned out from the beginning because nobody expected it to take off like it did. Gunn has very direct experience regarding that and can apply that experience to avoid some of the hiccups and dropped plot lines the MCU had.That said, you’re quite correct that none of that matters if the initial DCU movies aren’t well received.
Fair enough. Gunn and Safran are probably annoyed by it. I should have clarified that, because I was thinking more along the lines of their bosses, who don’t really give a shit about cohesive storytelling in general, as long as the stock price keeps ticking up. (Even though cohesive storytelling is the best way to tick the stock price up).
“Because let’s be frank, it’s confusing as fuck.”
It really isn’t.
Not a SINGLE PERSON was confused about there being a Joker movie as well as a Joker character appearing in The Batman.
Hell, the first and second Suicide Squad movies wouldn’t even have anything to do with each other if it wasn’t for Harley Quinn…. and Rick Flag, Amanda Waller, Captain Boomerang …
Ok, fair enough. The movies didn’t leave much of an impression on me, tbh. James Gunn’s a little more than the first one, but neither is really anything to write home about, IMO.
“I have no doubt that in those quiet moments when no one can hear, inside their heads the likes of Gunn and Safran say to themselves “I really wish that Matt Reeves movie was a bust, then we could simply cancel that franchise and just make one batman series for simplicity sake”.
That’s interesting, because *I* have no doubt that Gunn and Safran are high-fiving about being able to have TWO Batman franchises, one a grim n’ gritty “realistic” take and one a more “comic book” take.
I’m sure he’s a nice guy, but in that picture Muschietti looks like the third, douchebag Gunn brother.
He looks like the edibles just kicked in.
I thought it was Evil Alternate Universe Alan Ruck at first.
Yeah it’s something about the very coiffed hair and goatee combo. I’m getting like “smarmy Archer villain” vibes almost.
He looks like the brother of the guy who played Roman in Blindspot.
Hey, that’s lightning guy from SHIELD!
DC: , “wow , we really do have a massive roster of characters from the last 80 years , a cavalcade of heroes and villains from the serious to silly , from the marvellous to the macabre , from the trivial to titans, truly a huge number of exciting characters all waiting to have their stories told to new audiences.Welp…time to make another Bat movie.”Seriously guys ,yout have a problem …even when you try and make a Flash movie , you made a Bat movie . stop it and try something new ..
They just made a second shazam movie, a black Adam movie, a second suicide squad movie, a peacemaker TV series, and have another aquaman movie coming out at christmas.
Don’t forget Blue Beetle.
“Welp…time to make another Bat movie.”
Yeah, can you BELIEVE they want to make more movies that people will go to see in droves?
Also, there are at least four Batman comics every single month.
Not that anyone really expected it, but signing Andy immediately to do a Batman movie seems to very much make it clear they’re not doing a flash sequel any time soon, particularly since Andy has been vocal that he would never want to recast Miller. This also has the added bonus that even if flash underperforms financially (an increasingly serious possibility) then they’ve pre-emptively saved face by hiring the director to another, far more easily lucrative franchise. They will be able to have their cake and eat it too. “We love the flash and even though it didn’t make as much as we wanted, we love it so much we have the director back so shut up and stop doubting how much we love the flash”.
On a serious level, I’m happy about Andy getting this gig. He clearly has an increasingly visual flair for batman and making Reeves the gritty noir series and this one more the extravagant zany comic book thing could work.
They were never going to come out and say that they weren’t doing a sequel to The Flash or recasting Miller, at least not before the movie premieres. But when Gunn announced ten new movies and it wasn’t on the list, it’s pretty obvious it’s not happening. My prediction is that we’ll see about half of the movies Gunn announced, but audiences won’t really care about most of them, so he’ll move on to other things.
The one thing they should have done is the thing they can’t do: sit on the whole fucking thing for five years and then start completely over, going the full Marvel route of building the universe via individual movies. They blew it the first time around by putting Snyder in charge of it all, and they’ve been in a tailspin for ten years since.
“making Reeves the gritty noir series”
(laughs in wi-fi enabled contact lenses)
There definitely isn’t going to be a Flash sequel. Without going into spoilers, the movie itself takes care of that while slightly leaving the door open if it turns out to be a massive hit. The Thursday night numbers pretty much shut that door though. $9.7 mil is close to Black Adam numbers and about half of GotG 3 and Spiderman Across the Spiderverse Thursday night opening numbers. WBD was certainly hoping for more than that, which you can tell just from the ridiculous amount of money they’ve been spending on marketing. It’s looking like around a $70 mil opening on a long weekend. Unless it gets crazy legs WBD is never going to recoup what they spent on this thing with it’s protracted production and reshoots.
I’m happy for him as I really liked the Flash (I do understand why some people would be lost by it) and think he could crush a Batfamily reunion in the movie.
who’s spent years putting together his Flash movieYea. For how long they worked on this, there really is no excuse for why the CGI is as bad as it is. I couldn’t believe my eyes.
I’ve only seen stuff online, but yeah, holy crap. That baby scene… they all look like the doll from American Sniper.
“That baby scene… they all look like the doll from American Sniper.”
Well, interestingly, when you’re in a theatre and not watching a bullshit cam, that scene plays very well.
It’s inside the speed force that *everyone* looks like a video game character.
Oof, that’s a face made for radio.
Nah, it’s just the gd scarf. It’s hurting everything above and below the neck.
Looks like he also got his own little trollkin doll!
I’m a big Batman fan – I’ve been reading probably 90%+ of his series going back decades but I am begging you please, please give him a rest.
“I’m a big Batman fan – I’ve been reading probably 90%+ of his series going back decades but I am begging you please, please give him a rest.”
Hahaha, what ridiculous hypocracy.
YOU are LITERALLY the reason they’ve got multiple Batman movies.
Congratulations, idiot.
I thought The Flash had the best Batman fights I’ve seen so I am optimistic about this.
Now they just need to cast Bill Skarsgard as the Joker.
By the mid-21st century everyone will get their own Batman movie.
After this weekend I’m questioning whether WB is even going to continue making any DC movies except for the Matt Reeve’s Batman movies. I wouldn’t be surprised if they just pivoted into a remake of LOTR and let the comic book connect movie thing rest for a decade.