The Marvels raises the question: How many times is Marvel going to tease us with [REDACTED]?
The Marvels sees the MCU fall back on one of its recent favorite tricks
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[This story contains big, massive, obvious spoilers for The Marvels. You’ve been warned!]
Nia DaCosta’s The Marvels opens in theaters this weekend, bringing together Brie Larson, Teyonah Parris, and Iman Vellani as its titular unofficial superhero team, bouncing across the more cosmic portions of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Running on a $220-plus million budget (plus marketing), and facing what’s being predicted as a pretty lousy $60 million domestic opening, the movie is raising at least a few questions about the ongoing viability of the MCU in its current incarnation. But right now, it’s really raising just one question for us—and here’s where you should absolutely, definitely bail if you don’t want to be spoiled on this movie.
No, seriously. We’re going to put a picture of Carol Danvers’ cat Goose here, just to demarcate it.
So, here goes: How many goddamn times is Marvel going to tease us with the X-Men, huh?
This question prompted by The Marvels’ mid-credits scene, which sees Parris’ character Monica Rambeau get blasted through one of those Big CGI Space Holes that MCU superheroes always find themselves inevitably drawn to. In the aftermath, she wakes up in a hospital bed in an alternate universe, reunited with (a version of) her long-dead mom, Maria. And who’s her doctor? Well, it’s a big blue cat man by the name of Dr. Hank McCoy, because 2023 is apparently the year where Kelsey Grammer gets to reprise all his most famous roles! (Down Periscope revival when?)
Which would all be very exciting, except that this is, by our count, the fourth time Marvel has played the “You know we own the X-Men now, right?” card to build up buzz for its latest project, and the whole thing’s getting a little old. The first was, admittedly, pretty funny, when WandaVision brought Evan Peters on to play a fake version of Quicksilver, as a reference to his role in the X-Men movies. Then Doctor Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness went hard, bringing in Patrick Stewart himself to reprise his role as Professor X. (Alongside Lynch, playing a version of Maria who became Captain Marvel.) Finally, Vellani’s Ms. Marvel show ended by talking about unexpected mutations. And at each step, we all went, “Whoo, the X-Men! They’re coming!”
But at this point, how much “Whoo!” do we have left? Although Kevin Feige has stated it’s on its way, Marvel still refuses to put an X-Men movie on the schedule. (Possibly because, once the arrival of canonical mutants in the MCU is actually confirmed, what will they start putting in mid-credits teasers?) Critics have hit The Marvels hard for burying its three engaging leads beneath a lot of general MCU business, and that credits scene doesn’t soften those accusations. How much can you tease something, and for how long, before it stops being a fun way to build anticipation and excitement, and just becomes, well… a tease?
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The teasing with [REDACTED] will continue until morale improves.
“Critics have hit The Marvels hard for burying its three engaging leads beneath a lot of general MCU business”Yeah, I’m going to call lying on that. A bunch of obvious bad faith assholes have falsely accused the movie of being impossible to follow because the concept of a girl from 1995 having grown up by the present day is impossible to comprehend, and otherwise I’m seeing a bunch of people saying it’s fun as hell.
Yeah, same here. I really don’t understand why so many writers seem to want to play both sides of this, catering to the incel crowd for clicks no matter what actually happens in the real world.
I liked it, it was a solid B+ to A- film. And as for the theme of this piece, of course Marvel is going to keep teasing the X-Men as much as possible until they actually appear — it’s their most popular property and the most-anticipated film in the future of the genre. It would be cinematic malpractice if they didn’t.
Sometimes, you need to look up and see who is agreeing with you.
Just saw it, and I would disagree with those critics. There is a lot of solid and often fun interaction between the leads. Yes, the film sets up some more MCU projects. But at least there’s no Kang cameos. I would agree with the critics who point out that the antagonist isn’t very fleshed out. But this is a solid B+ film that serves the larger MCU timeline.
What I actually love about ‘The Marvels’ is how much of it seems like it could have come from a non-MCU sci-fi movie. Obviously you have Skrulls and Kree, and we’ve seen them before, and some of the other stuff probably has roots in the comics that I’m not familiar with, but overall it felt like it was doing its own weird, wonderful thing.
Funnily enough, I loved it because to me it felt like someone just grabbed a random arc out of the comics and straight-up filmed it. Tonally, I feel like ‘The Marvels’ landed right in the ballpark of the stuff I grew up reading in the 80’s and 90’s, back before everything either had to deal with the fallout of last year’s company-wide crossover or was foreshadowing for next year’s company-wide crossover. (Though to be fair, back in those years, if you had a comic send superheroes to space it was usually for some semi-generic sci-fi movie shenanigans.)
Or it might be that a lot of those critics just didn’t like the movie as it was. I’ve watched and read some of those negative reviews and this seems like stretching bad faith arguments to a limit, unless it literally for you means disliking a movie you liked.Also, and I am kind of curious how this one will be shrugged off, the CinemaScore, which is a pure audience score, is currently a B. Which might not sound bad, but is actually really bad and currently tied as the worst MCU Cinemascore. So I’m guessing, as shocking as what I am about to write, there are a lot of people out there who didn’t think it was fun as hell.
“the CinemaScore, which is a pure audience score, is currently a B. Which might not sound bad, but is actually really bad”Wow! Talk about bad faith arguments.
Im not sure in what universe it is that a B is interpreted as ‘bad’. Especially not “really bad”, when Cinemascore’s ranks are A, B, C, D, and F, which to any rational observer without an obvious axe to grind, would be interpreted as “above average”. You know, just like what a B means anywhere else this scoring system is used.
Other cinematic classics that have received a Cinemascore of B:Catwoman, Elektra and Green Lantern. Add Batman Vs Superman there as well, although I personally liked that film.There are reasons for it that are longer than going into here, but getting a Cinemascore below A is really bad indicator for the audience word of mouth for the film. How simplistically you wish to view the system is up to you.
Color me shocked that you liked Batman vs Superman. Anyway, I wish you the best of luck in convincing me of how bad a B is if you really want to go down that road, but I wouldn’t hold your breath.
So a couple of things. First you responded to me about how good B actually is without seemingly having done even a cursory research on Cinemascores.Second, it doesn’t matter really matter to me what you believe about it or not, doesn’t change the fact of the matter.Third, based on your seeming hostility to facts opposing your perceptions, color me surprised that you think me liking a superhero film says something about me personally.
Welp, you’ve convinced me, well done.
I thought you said it was a waste of time? Because turned out to be surprisingly easy.
A CinemaScore grade of B may not be really bad, but it’s definitely bad. Which sounds silly, I know, but ordinary moviegoers simply tend to grade high. (When my mom says “eh, I’d give it a B” after finishing a movie, that means she hated it.)I’m surprised the critical and audience reception are both so lukewarm; personally I think it ranks highly among the post-Endgame movies, but hey maybe the singing planet was a little much for some people.
Yeah, I mean, the audience at the showing I went to seemed, anecdotally at least, to very much enjoy it. I’ve given up trying to figure out exactly what it is people want out of superhero films anymore, unless they really thought Chris Evans and RDJ were just going to stick around forever; and tbh, I think a lot of this really does just come down to fatigue, Guardians 3 and Across the Spiderverse box offices notwithstanding. I still like the stuff but I just don’t have time to keep up with everything. It’s a struggle to sit down and get through my monthly/bi-monthly comics pull anymore.
Really the opposite is true. The movie catches you up quickly on who these people are and the important things that happened. The actual plot and story is nicely free of serving crossovers or future continuity. That is properly saved for the end credits.
Not only does it catch you up easily, but Kamala and her family are so charming that I predict Ms. Marvel numbers will get a boost.The MCU has NEVER made you have an encyclopedic knowledge of the comics or the movies. Every movie assumes you either didn’t see the last one or only saw it once.
Honestly, it sounds like you’re confusing randos on Twitter with “critics”. That said, Rotten Tomatoes has it at 62% from critics as of this writing (which is perfectly fine for a comic book movie), and a cursory glance didn’t show any of the things you’re referring to. Most of the genuine criticism I saw was along the lines of “lightweight, predictable, safe, bland”, which…it’s hard to spot the lie, there.I’m a big fan of the first movie, and Iman Vellani is a damn delight, but it’s a ‘B’ at best. For what it’s worth, that makes it better than either Quantumania or Love and Thunder, in my book.
I hope Marvel never stops making movies. I don’t watch any. But watching grown ass people get so worked up about the fact that not everyone loves superheros will never stop being funny.
I had a goddamn great time watching this, and the two middle aged rednecks sitting next to me freaking loved it.
Or it may be that the movie really is not good as most people seem to think.
I thought the movie was an utter joy and am very saddened by the backlash it has received.
Did having mar-vell/tesseract/photon powers make human immortal? Because Maria supposed to be a bit older even in the alternate dimension. Not the same age like she was in Captain Marvel.
If Brie Larson didn’t age between the first film and this film it makes perfect sense that Maria Rambeau wouldn’t age either (considering she’s wearing the Binary supersuit implying that she became Captain Marvel in this timeline). It actually would be off if she wasn’t the younger version of the character… I’m sorry I feel like this is super basic…
First, Goose is not a cat. Second, we already have confirmation that Deadpool 3 will be in the MCU and include Pulverine.
‘”Second, we already have confirmation that Deadpool 3 will be in the MCU and include Pulverine.”‘It’s Wolverine, but yes
I’d pay good money to see Wolverine battle his evil clone son from the Age of Sinister timeline Pulverine.
I actually have a Pulverine comic somewhere.
And the ongoing speculation that Secret Wars is going to be set in the Fox Universe entirely (which this very much backs up, imo)
I still want it to be a Skrull impersonator of Hugh Jackman named Jack Human in a Wolverine suit, but whatever.
Jackie Alberta regular human mutant.
It pretty obvious there will be no dedicated X-men movie until after the MCU soft reboots with Secret Wars. They’re not going to use the excuse that the X-men have been here this whole time so they’re going to remake the MCU to be a comic accurate version of the 616 universe.
“Critics have hit The Marvels hard for burying its three engaging leads beneath a lot of general MCU business”
Yeah… Now go to Twitter right now and look at what people are talking about the movie after they got an opportunity of actually watching and judging it by themselves (majoritary praise!). Or RT, where before the premiere, when only a handful of critics had seen the movie, it was at 55%, but now that people can see it by themselves, it sits at 62% by critics and 85% by audiences!“The Marvels” will be teached in cinema classes as an example of how a bad faith orchestrated campaign can hurt an actually good movie.
The fact that you think marketing is something that that should taught in film classes really tells us all we need to know about the MCU.
Everyone who takes a film class with a view to a caterer in movies should be aware, at the very least, how marketing works as a thing in the lifecycle of the film they’re going to make.
The fact that you’re an incel tells us all we need to know about stupid.
“The
Marvels” will be teached in cinema classes as an example of how a bad
faith orchestrated campaign can hurt an actually good movie”I doubt it. Not really what our film schools do. Tisch in particular would be horrified at the suggestion.
Meanwhile “Five Nights at Freddy’s” has a Rotten Tomatoes critic score of 30 % and and audience score of 87 %.When they teach about this unquestionable classic in cinema classes, it will be done as an example how critics are worthless human beings who are just out there to sabotage good movies due to sinister shadowy agendas.
Don’t forget, they’re apparently “incel” critics… I love how the kids of Generation Idiocracy try to reduce film discussions to, “virgin boogeyman in my head lives rent free, bad movie = good, so, wahh!”
While I know you are joking, things like this have happened. Carpenter’s The Thing was viewed as a crass, gory film of no merit by most critics of the time, but these days it is viewed as one of the best scifi/horror films of the 1980s. Of course there might be no shadowy agenda involved, just critics that were out of touch.
The shadowy agenda is the thing Hiemoth is making fun of. There are plenty of examples of movies that were poorly reviewed upon release that were reappraised as classics later. Blade Runner is another great example. There are even more examples of excellently reviewed movies doing poorly at the box office, and poorly reviewed movies making hundreds of millions of dollars. I’m not sure why people pretend like critics have a strong influence over commercial performance.
Of course they have and other way around as well. The fundamental challenge with the argument, though, is that for every Thing, there are hundreds of movies that were just bad. Some of which made tons of money like, for example, the Jurassic World movies. To have that discussion genuinely on when is it the critics, and parts of the audience, being out of touch with the zeitgeist is genuinely difficult one and always required time, at least of a couple of months, to figure out.My joke here wasn’t that the critics always get it right, but rather to me the central example I was responding to was, to be honest, unintentionally hilarious.
Or that the kind of people who become film critics are by their very nature the kind of people who are generally snootier than the average movie-goer about the films they like. The kind of people who will pick an Ingmar Bergman film over anything by J.J. Abrams.
Professional film critics, whose job is to be fair and impartial, and who are assigned movies based on their personal tastes, are conspiring write “bad faith” reviews to take down a movie? Take a moment to think about how insane that sounds.
“whose job is to be fair and impartial” lol that’s not how criticism works
But it’s only an ok movie tho.
Do you all have a talking points email that goes out every night. The consistent use of the “bad faith” in the fan boi comments is really funny in all the crybaby posts defending this movie.
Or RT, where before the premiere, when only a handful of critics had seen the movie, it was at 55%, but now that people can see it by themselves, it sits at 62% by critics and 85% by audiences!I’m not sure that +7% bump the critic score got post-release is really that drastic, but also, The Flash has a very comparable 63% by critics and 83% by audiences, and most people here act like it’s the worst movie they’ve ever seen.“The Marvels” will be teached in cinema classes as an example of how a bad faith orchestrated campaign can hurt an actually good movie.Orchestrated by who?
“will be teached”What did the English language do to you to make you abuse it so badly?
Yes, that whole 7% gulf in review scores could only be the result of sabotage.
That’s not what cinema classes teach.
Or RT, where before the premiere, when only a handful of critics had seen the movie, it was at 55%, but now that people can see it by themselves, it sits at 62% by critics and 85% by audiences!Because RT has never manipulated its own review algorithm to artificially inflate the score of a movie. So we can totally trust RT’s ratings to accurately reflect the audience’s perception of a movie.
Sure, the older generations call it teasing and treat it like a bad thing, but Gen Z calls it edging and seems to be into it… 😆
Eh, the first two were more light hearted trolling, especially Wandavision. The latter two are actually of substance and were pretty cool.
Is it really any different to teasing Thanos and the Infinity Stones, which Marvel was doing all throughout the original films? I imagine there are some big plans to have the X-Men involved in an upcoming multiversal war, and if the groundwork weren’t laid I’m sure the AV Club would write some kind of “Where the hell did the mutants come from?” thinkpiece.
Fundamentally so, yes. I don’t even really understand the question here.When teasing Thanos and the Infinity Stones, that was setting up the story elements that lead to the big Avengers movie. Here, the teasing of the X-Men is done by showing two characters in an alternative universes that do not impact the main MCU. It doesn’t set up the X-Men or any plot elements for them in any manner for future films.
They’re setting up the X-men vs Avengers fight in Kang Dynasty to be the last surviving universe as incursions destroy every single universe that would then lead to the creation of Battle World in Secret Wars.
I think you might be misremembering the build up with Thanos. From “I’ll do it myself” — with his colouring being much more purple, to having to retcon the existence of an Infinity Gauntlet on Asgard, they weren’t exactly sewing carefully laid seeds at the time because the future movie slate was much more tenuous, and not at all guaranteed.
Thanos was first teased at the end of 2012’s The Avengers and finally appeared as a real character in 2018’s Infinity Wars. WandaVision aired in January 2021 nearly two years after the Fox deal had closed, so we’re about halfway through the tease cycle with no X-Men movie on the release calendar. And it feels like they have to do an entire movie to explain how the X-Men cross over from another universe or something.It’s probably going to be way longer than six years before there’s actually an X-Men movie, is my point.
I’ve gotten this response a couple of times now and continue to find them confusing as I’m not arguing that MCU isn’t going to introduce the X-Men. Rather that the current teases with them don’t compare at all to Thanos. Not because of quality, but because of content.Yes, they Thanos years in advance and were structurally messy in the way they did it. However, those teases established a presence within universe that was instantly established as the final boss. You can like or dislike the choices they made during the process, personally think a lot of them were bad, but it was consistent.None of three teases we have had for the X-Men so far have even been in the same universe with each other. And for this latest tease to have any bearing on future X-Men films would require them to establish that the coming X-Men are actually the Fox X-Men, which is such a mind-bogglingly stupid thing to even suggest that my mind is incapable of processing it.
I agree that having the Fox X-Men cross over is stupid!But if they don’t do something like that, how are they going to explain where all the mutants came from? They’ve given various numbers for the mutant population in the comics, and it’s something like 0.4% of the human population has the X-gene. Some mutants are supposed to be hundreds of years old. If they were here in the Sacred Timeline but just sat out the entire MCU to date, that wouldn’t make sense. But if the mutants all discover their powers at the same time in 2026, that’s not really X-Men.
Completely agreed on the X-Men issue here, which I’ve been so baffled why they haven’t started the true grounding of them in the MCU as it is a massive undertaking.If I had to take a stab, their plan for the Kang storyline is a convergence of timelines, which allows them to reboot the MCU with mutants included now.
Honestly, hot-take: this right here is why the X-Men shouldn’t be in the MCU.By all means, Marvel Studios, make X-Men movies now you own the property, but cramming them into the universe you’ve already built ten years in just seems like a really bad idea. Especially since you’re doing the whole ‘multiverse’ thing. Just have a separate universe with X-Men in it.The whole ‘mutants are a despised and feared underclass!’ thing already sat a little uneasily with the non-mutant heroes in Marvel Comics anyway.
The whole ‘mutants are a despised and feared underclass!’ thing already sat a little uneasily with the non-mutant heroes in Marvel Comics anyway. Listen, it makes perfect sense: if you happened to be born with powers through no decision or action of your own, clearly you’re a scary monster who must be feared. But if you got your powers the normal way— you know, stealing a rocket for an unauthorized test flight that fails catastrophically and you crash and transform into body horrors— well, then you’re celebrated public figures. 1
Keeping the characters in different continuities was one of the nice things about different studios owning the rights. Fox and Sony made plenty of mistakes with the X-Men and Spider-Man, but playing around with the characters produced good stuff like the Mangold Wolverine movies. The MCU built its brand around these stupid “Phases,” and it clearly never occurred to them that people would lose focus on the brand before they got around to introducing the X-Men. And even when they do, it’ll be the usual MCU gobbledygook – it would be unprecedented to tell an X-Men story without shoehorning Nick Fury into it.
something like, and i dunno, this may be fuckin nutty but maybe dealing with the incursion of an established universe into the MCU? like theyve been building to?
theyre gonna assume we know who the xmen are this time, theyve done that with spidey to fantastic success. You’re also incredibly correct, we don’t need another X movie to get them involved the MCU, that’ll definitely happen later. But I betcha given all the info we have the universe that collides with the MCU is the X one, and the X-Men just get folded in the way Miles happened in the comics.
Thanos had maybe three minutes of total screen time until Infinity War and the Infinity Stones received the most cursory of explanations in GOTG1
They could introduce Professor X, who thinks he’s the only mutant in the world. Then mutants from another dimension (possibly Magneto) attack Earth, and this causes everyone to fear mutants. So Professor X decides to seek out mutants to keep them safe. Fun!
They are almost certainly going to resolve everything and merge the different universes together in Secret Wars.
I’m not gonna read this cause I’m planning to see it tonight but given by this headline I’m assuming there’s an X-Men tease (not crazy considering the X-Men tease in Ms. Marvel)
It might not be the X-Men but if it is, this headline is too obvious. So, go to hell AV Club.
I get the feeling that X-Men and Fantastic Four will be after Kang War resets the MCU. They can do a reboot of everything and after they do a FF and X-Men movie then can do another Iron Man or Captain America origin movie with new actors.
It’ll be X-men vs Avengers in Kang Dynasty and the Fantastic Four will most likely be about them investigating incursions destroying the multiverse.
another Iron Man or Captain America origin movie with new actors.Dear God, why?
Because they’re out of ideas.
There is 80 years of comics, I doubt they are out of ideas.
And because, let’s face it, their attempts to set up replacements for Iron Man and Captain America have pretty much been damp squibs (or, in the case of Black Panther, suffered a tragic case of actor existence failure). It’s not exactly like the clamouring for the Captain Marvel-Dr Strange-Shang Chi team-up movie is deafening or anything.
Ew could you imagine if Shang-Chi teamed up? Asians are so stupid so I would hate to see that. Fuck Asian people (oh wait were hating on women here not ethnic minorities mb mb).
Your Mom is out of ideas
Probably until they all show up in Deadpool 3.
Really, how long is Marvel going to keep doing this thing that gets press every time they do it?
thank god you’re all here to save the poor widdle multi-billion dollar corporation from mild criticism of it’s product output
thank god you’re here to remind us how fucking irritating it is when someone doesn’t know the difference between “it’s” and “its.”
congrats you’re now the worst kind of punctuation pedant: an incorrect one.
Remember how many times they teased the infinity stones and Thanos? At least that many.
Maybe they’re setting Monica in DP to transition her to her nextwave self.
Goose is not a cat.
Goose is an Anthony Edwards.
WRONG. Goose is a Steve Bisley.
he’s a duck duck?
I have to give your comment a star, but I don’t have to like it.
There has been a theory for a while that Secret Wars is going to be set in the Fox Universe. This feels like a likely reference to that. Deadpool 3 is likely going to confirm that all the more with the whole Wolverine part. Patrick Stewart also implied that he and Ian McKellan are working on something for Marvel.
I read a lot of critics reviews and it seemed like they all watched a different movie.
I really wish they’d dump the cameo bullshit. I know they’re building up to Secret Wars or whatever, but…ugh. Just do the thing, if you’re going to do it. Why keep reminding us of other movies that aren’t “canon” to your own franchises?
i sure can’t wait for brett goldstein’s hercules to show up again!
What a stupid comment. Dude they literally did that with Nacho at the end of Spider-Man: Homecoming you’re just choosing the example that serves your argument. Incel.
I got some bad news about how comic books work…
How many times did they tease The Avengers?
Hey, AV Club. I know you’ve gotten a lot of shit for spoiling things in the past. I just wanna say I appreciate the effort to keep readers from accidentally reading the spoiler. No cutesy headline or header pic. I see you. 👍
Very confused. Who is Lynch and who is Maria? You mention these names exactly once, in a parenthetical, with no explanation of who you are talking about. Stephen Lynch and Maria Bamford? David Lynch and the Maria character from West Side Story? This article is poorly written: “Then Doctor Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness went hard, bringing in Patrick Stewart himself to reprise his role as Professor X. (Alongside Lynch, playing a version of Maria who became Captain Marvel.)“
Also, this is a stupid point you are making and obvious click bait with that ridiculous title. You don’t need to avoid spoilers to say that X men characters have appeared in Marvel movies that were made years ago. They made a whole Key and Peele sketch to explain to clueless people like the author that the term spoiler does not apply to old things, history, facts, current events, or things like the taste of your food. Putting that redacted BS in the title sure gets a lot more views for a shallow article like this than actually just putting your stupid complaint in the title (“Please stop teasing me with the X-Men because they are important to me and I really want to see them in the movies because no one told me they made X-Men movies already (after I yelled at them about spoilers for 25 year old movies) because they are my favorite and more wolverine claws please please please”).
AV Club can do a lot better than this trash. This kind of article belongs on one of those sites that writes a lot of articles about how Gina Carano is being treated unfairly. Pull your head out of the sand and you’ll realize that there have already been 11 movies about the X-Men and their offshoots. You’ll also noticed that they’ve made more than a couple MCU movies that made no mention of the X-Men, despite the fact that if they existed in universe, they would have been there. Weaving them into the story in a way that makes sense isn’t as simple as just dropping your favorite characters in to the world and pretending that they were super busy with midterm papers when everyone was dying to Thanos.
Young Avengers teasers >>>> X-people teasers
Are the majority of people really actively excited about the MCU? Like, I want to see Wolverine again, and I guess Secret Wars could be cool. Maybe they should have done X-Men in earnest before they did Eternals?
It just feels like Marvel and Disney keep trying to make the same product, a superhero perfect cheeseburger, and are the last ones to read the room that we don’t want it anymore
I’m sure people are still excited about the MCU, but people still get excited about going to TGI Friday’s.
Perfect answer
Incel
The majority of people think you’re an incel so
the baby brains are straining themselves in these comments! Take a nap and have a binky!
Is Charlie Brown ever going to kick that football?
All of this teasing is making my [REDACTEDS] turn blue.
Not for nothin but has every fucking person forgotten how they played the infinity saga out? All this bitching is literally just the stone lineup given mutant form. Fuck me for remembering the payoff on this shit i guess?
marvel can’t really do anything “new” with the x-men for various legal reasons until around ~2025/2026 the earliest which is why there isn’t an x-men movie scheduled yet (deadpool 3 is different) & why we’re revisiting versions of the characters familiar to the fox continuity right now(also, nostalgia ahead of secret wars)
What annoys me is that they’re not teasing their new X-Men direction, but instead using the previous X-Men. The Fox X-Men series had great moments – but was deeply flawed towards the end. Let’s just put that to rest and start again. Let’s have a new Wolverine, Professor X, Cyclops. Let’s have new stories and arcs, instead of recycling old ones.
Who knows? God willing, they’ll all eventually show up in The Marvels 2: The Search for More Money.
Lol imagine if women liked you
Dear incels everywhere: I’m sorry you hate women for feeling rejected by them but you’re shit stains on society go die.