Whoopi Goldberg says there is no such thing as an Oscar snub

On The View, Whoopi Goldberg weighed in on the discourse surrounding Margot Robbie and Greta Gerwig being passed over for Oscar noms

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Whoopi Goldberg says there is no such thing as an Oscar snub
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By the looks of The A.V. Club comments section and the Internet at large, folks are divided about whether Margot Robbie and Greta Gerwig were snubbed for Barbie. But perhaps the question we should be asking is, do “snubs” even exist? There is an entire Internet discourse economy built on the concept, but the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences is not an all-knowing cinematic deity bestowing recognition upon only the most deserving. It’s a large body of industry professionals with differing thoughts and feelings about film, whose voting decisions may be personal or political. Just ask Whoopi Goldberg, Academy voter and one of our few EGOT (Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, and Tony) winners.

“Here’s the deal: Everybody doesn’t win,” Goldberg said during a panel discussion on The View. “They’re not snubs. And that’s what I want to sort of point out. And it’s not the elites, it’s the entire family of the Academy who vote for best picture nominations. We all vote for best picture, everybody. … You don’t get everything that you want to get.”

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View panelist Alyssa Farah Griffin reiterated a popular online talking point about Gerwig and Robbie missing Best Actress and Director nominations, lamenting that Ryan Gosling got a nod instead. “Did [the Academy] miss the whole moral of the story of Barbie? Of course we celebrate just Ken, not the woman who’s the lead in it and the icon in it,” she said. (Reminder: Gerwig and Robbie are nominated for their work as writer and producer of the film, respectively, just not for acting and directing.)

But taking the nominations personally (and in some cases, taking it as a slight against women as a whole) is part of the problem, per Goldberg. She didn’t get all the details right—her example was Everything Everywhere All At Once winning Best Actress but not Best Picture, though in reality it won both—but the bottom line is, Oscars are a crapshoot. “There are no snubs, and that’s what you have to keep in mind: Not everybody gets a prize, and it is subjective,” she said. “Movies are subjective. The movies you love may not be loved by the people who are voting.”

87 Comments

  • cinecraf-av says:

    A lot of our finest filmmakers never received competitive Oscars. Hitchcock. Altman. Kubrick (except for VFX for 2001, which really should’ve gone to Doug Trumbull). There can be as much honor to be held in the company of those who get overlooked, as there is if one is chosen.

    • kirivinokurjr-av says:

      To your point, I don’t think it’s done Driving Miss Daisy any good for having won over the not-even-nominated Do The Right Thing. It’s not that I want the Academy to always pick inferior movies as the winners, but in a way it all kinda works out.The Oscars are becoming more inclusive and open-minded, more international, but the results are still a product of marketing as last year’s Andrea Riseborough campaign highlighted. I like watching the show, but I think I’ve done a better job of not taking the results to heart.

      • cinecraf-av says:

        Exactly! Well put. Winning an Oscar can be downright detrimental, and serve to highlight more deserving films. No one remembers Driving Miss Daisy, except for the fact that it beat out a once in a generation kind of film like Do the Right Thing. And the Riseborough campaign is another interesting example, because it arguably harmed her career. It did very little to raise awareness or interest in her film, but only served to highlight to frankly corrupt and shameless methods some would go to to get a nom. Given the backlash, receiving that nom was a Pyrrhic victory. I dare say, ten years from now, few will be able to recall who won Best Director in 2024.  But they’ll remember Barbie, and Gerwig for being snubbed.  It’s a bitter pill to swallow now, but in the long run, it will better serve her legacy.

        • tvcr-av says:

          I don’t know, the directing category is pretty good this year. Could be first time wins for Glazer or Lanthimos, or a career-capper for Scorsese withone of his best.

          • cinecraf-av says:

            Yeah that’s the thing missing from all this, is that the five chosen are very much deserving in their own right. Justine Triet would be my pick for Best Director. All this talk about Gerwig and Barbie really seems to sleight the other five for the great work they did.Honestly, this all feels a bit disingenuous. Gerwig got a screenplay and picture nom. She’s made millions from her backend deal on the grosses for the film. The campaign now seems like a crypto campaign for her to win the Screenplay award, by tactily saying to the Academy “You better make up for this by giving me the consolation prize.” Honestly, the quest for one of those damn statuettes brings out such ugliness in people, all for a doorstop that tarnishes in a few years.

        • senatorcorleone-av says:

          It did not harm her career lol.And if Nolan wins as expected, people will remember that.

    • shindean-av says:

      Name the movie that beat Citizen Kane for the Oscar off the top of your head.
      While you google your answer, we’re not dumb…we understand that being nominated for an Oscar isn’t the same as winning it.
      But to not recognize that Margot Robbie and Gerwig made something timeless out of a subject that nobody was expecting?
      I got tired of white men arguing over their own hubris since Wall Street, and it’s not even Nolan’s best film…and likely the one that wins the Oscar -_-

      • bchose-av says:

        Not sure how $1.4 billion and eight Oscar nominations = “not recognized”

      • kinosthesis-av says:

        Except How Green Was My Valley is a terrific film in its own right.PS: I learned all the Best Picture winners in order when I was in the seventh grade. Know who you’re challenging. 😉

        • paulfields77-av says:

          I knew that! “Where is the light that I thought to see in your eye?”

        • shindean-av says:

          “in its own right”
          I can also read trepidation and loss of confidence in your voice.
          You just proved my point.
          Know the master you copied from in film school. 

      • kirivinokurjr-av says:

        “ it’s not even Nolan’s best film…and likely the one that wins the Oscar -_-”In fairness, Nolan isn’t competing against his filmography.  He’s competing against the other nominees.

      • gfitzpatrick47-av says:

        But to not recognize that Margot Robbie and Gerwig made something timeless out of a subject that nobody was expecting?The thing is that Barbie is much bigger than any Oscar for acting or directing would dictate.

        Looking at some of the most recent Best Picture winners, very few of them are talked about as cultural touchstones outside of those who are cinema buffs (and, let’s be serious for a moment, Barbie isn’t a cinema-buff type movie). Who is talking about CODA, or Green Book, or Nomadland, or Moonlight, or The Shape of Water? I liked some of those movies, but their influence on the cultural consciousness outside of Hollywood ended the moment the following year rolled around.

        My take on Margot Robbie and Greta Gerwig not getting nominations in the individual categories is this. Margot Robbie essentially played a similar role to most of the big movies she’s been in. She’s beautiful, she’s charming, she can get laughs, and that’s about it. She doesn’t have immense range, and while that isn’t necessary, this was a year where the potential competition showed elements that her role as Barbie simply didn’t have. Truth be told, if Fantasia couldn’t even get a nomination for her role as Celie in The Color Purple, there was no way that Margot was getting a nod for Barbie.

        As for Gerwig, my take is a bit more cynical and conspiratorial, but I think it has at least some merit. Given that she co-wrote the film with Noah, who is an award-winning director in her own write, I wouldn’t be surprised if some voters felt that he acted as a shadow “co-director”, and thus Barbie was less a film directed by Greta Gerwig, and instead a film directed by them both with Noan going uncredited. That’s not to say that co-directors can’t be nominated (hell, Dwan and Schienert won last year for Everything, Everywhere All At Once), but I can certainly imagine some voters (namely older men) thinking that Greta and Noah made a deal to have this be a “woman-directed movie” because of optics, and Greta got dinged for it.

      • senatorcorleone-av says:

        Yea it may not be Nolan’s best, which is a testament to his stature because it’s one of the best films of the decade.

      • ciegodosta-av says:

        “But to not recognize that Margot Robbie and Gerwig made something timeless out of a subject that nobody was expecting?”Lost in all this is they both have nominations in major categories! Robbie is nominated for Best Picture and Gerwig for best adapted screenplay, so that thing you think is not being recognized IS being recognized.

        • shindean-av says:

          Group project award, taking away the very fact that film was driven by a single woman and her amazing acting.
          The fact that this isn’t even Nolan’s best film, and clearly being handed the award already, makes that snub more obvious.
          I mean, unless you agree with Crash.

    • gumbybrainspecialist-av says:

      It should have gone to Trumbull, Con Pederson, Wally Veevers, and Tom Howard (as supervisors of a mainly uncredited team, per convention of the day), but this too raises an interesting point: who we choose to honour with even a nomination puts them into a historical record. As Trumbull became the closest to a “name” visual effects artist, other contributions fell into relative anonymity. Certainly, Gerwig won’t be thought of as a footnote, comparatively; but for less prominent film workers, those who are overlooked often don’t receive any accolades at all (but yeah, to your example, this is more Kubrick’s fault than the Academy’s).

  • taco-emoji-av says:

    Honestly the Gosling nomination is bizarre to me even without considering the irony of it all. He was fine, he did his job, but it just wasn’t a demanding role.

    • lmh325-av says:

      I think he has a few moments where he gets to shine from an acting perspective particularly when he and Barbie have their confrontation after he takes over Barbieland. I do think there’s also some truth in there being an assumption that acting dumb or playing comedy is easy.

    • kinosthesis-av says:

      Since when is “demanding” a criterion for a nomination? It’s an incredibly inspired comic performance in the vein of Kevin Kline in A Fish Called Wanda, a previous unorthodox winner in the category.

  • ofaycanyouseeme-av says:

    Yeah yeah, not getting nominated for Theodore Rex or Eddie doesn’t qualify her to say that.

    • Bazzd-av says:

      She’s got the EGOT.

      • ofaycanyouseeme-av says:

        Doesn’t say a ton for those awards. I watched her standup in the 80s, and it was mid at best. But she was good in the OG Color Purple and Jumpin Jack Flash.

        • Bazzd-av says:

          So her being in a bad movie undermines her awards, even though you admit she’s an exceptional actress and deserves her awards.

          • ofaycanyouseeme-av says:

            Holy fuck the AV Club commentariat sucks now. Let it go, it was joke you weirdo. Don’t bother replying, I’m done with Kinja. I can’t believe I’ve gone this long returning to the corpse of a once fun and funny comment section. See you never

    • senatorcorleone-av says:

      She should have won for the ‘85 Color Purple, one of the best leading performances of that decade.

  • bobroberts20-av says:

    It’s all about the math. My guess would be that most voters thought Gerwig and Robbie were both shoo-ins for the nominations, so they decided to vote for other nominees (ex. Annette Bening, Sandra Hüller, Justine Triet, etc…). If we were able to see the voting totals I think both Gerwig and Robbie would be in the sixth position in their category.

  • zwing-av says:

    Robbie’s Barbie was, for the most part, the straight-woman, setting up Gosling and to a lesser extent Ferrera, who get the big, broad and/or meaty stuff. Her Barbie doesn’t really get any big performative moments — in a different movie, the monologue about women’s expectations would’ve gone to her, not America Ferrera, as the capper of what she, as the main character, would’ve learned. In this, she gets the much more understated scene with Rhea Pearlman. Robbie’s very good in her role, but the straight-man/woman rarely gets recognized for the job they do. 

    • Bazzd-av says:

      The monologue should never have gone to Robbie because Robbie is playing a projection of America Ferrera’s angst.

    • gfitzpatrick47-av says:

      In my opinion, Margot is a good actress with a rather limited range, which is why all of her major roles play up how beauty, her decent comedic timing, and her charm. She’s had a very successful career, but she’s gonna have to break out of that mold if she’s ever gonna get across that final hurdle of winning an Oscar (she’s already been nominated for I, Tonya and Bombshell).

      • senatorcorleone-av says:

        “Limited range” lol. Totally unserious.

        • gfitzpatrick47-av says:

          I’m really good at getting guys to have a hard-on for me, but you’re taking it to a rather weird level. 

      • Bazzd-av says:

        Margot Robbie’s an exceptional actress. The only obstacle to her is competing against someone who puts out a better PERFORMANCE in any given year. You can’t predict literally any of these things. It’s why it took Leonardo DiCaprio 35 years worth of movies to get his first.

        • insignificantrandomguy-av says:

          DiCaprio was nominated when he was in Gilbert Grape, over 30 years ago.

        • gfitzpatrick47-av says:

          I’d say she’s great, maybe not yet exceptional in my eyes, but perhaps we’re splitting hairs.

          When it comes to her performance in Barbie, the issue is that these performances (as you alluded to correctly) aren’t qualitatively assessed in a vacuum. They’re compared to other performances in any given award year. So, for the people saying that Robbie deserved a nomination, it’s not only a question of who you’re taking out of those who did get a nomination, but why is Robbie getting that spot over other competitors who also didn’t get a nomination.

          For example, I think Fantasia deserved a nomination for Celie in The Color Purple. I not only have her over Robbie, but I’d take out Bening 9 in Nyad) to do so. That still doesn’t leave room for Robbie, but I’m sure that other people have differing opinions on that.

          When it comes to Leo, you’re absolutely right that he often got unlucky. His first nom for What’ Eating Gilbert Grape came in a year where he was competing against some older heavyweights, and I’m sure plenty of voters said, “He’s really good, and he’s young, and he’ll have opportunities later.” Next nom was Howard Hughes in The Aviator, and he unfortunately went up against Jamie Foxx for Ray (and my presumed runner-up in Don Cheadle for Hotel Rwanda). That’s bad luck all-around, as you said. Next time was for Blood Diamond, and again, he got unlucky in a year where there were two virtuoso performances that were nearly 1a and 1b (Forrest Whitaker in The Last King of Scotland and Will Smith in The Pursuit of Happyness).

          Next time was probably his most unlucky year, because he went up again McConaughey, Christian Bale, and Chiwetel Ejiofor in Dallas Buyers Club, American Hustle, and 12 Years a Slave, respectively. Great role, great performance, just an impossible year. But for The Revenant, that was an exceptional role, an exceptional performance, and while I think he was helped by a weaker year overall, I think that performance would’ve been over-the-top in most years.

          Compare that to Robbie’s nominations and unnominated performances, where I don’t personally see any as having been so exceptional to outcompete even in a weak year. She was great in I, Tonya, but assuming you could take that performance in place it in any Best Actress year within the last 10 years, what year would it have won? Maybe she wins in 2015 (the year Brie Larson won for Room, and her closest competition was Cate Blanchett and Jennifer Lawrence for Carol and Joy, respectively) But any other year within the last 10? No, she’s gotting a nomination but not a win. Same thing with Bombshell for Best Supporting Actress. What year does she win for that role? Maybe Alicia Vikander in The Danish Girl back in 2015, but does she beat Jennifer Jason Leigh for The Hateful Eight? I don’t think so. Maybe 2020/21 when Youn Yun-Jung won for Minari, but wait, does she beat Glenn Close who was nominated for Hillbilly Elegy that year? Not a chance.

          So, if her nominated roles wouldn’t be winners, what about Barbie? Using the same criterion (last 10 years of nominations) where would it fit in not just for a nomination (she’s been nominated for Best Actress before), but a win? The best chance, I think, is 2015, because none of the movies were so overpowering culturally to where the performances in them felt really transcendent (and 2015 was a historically weak year for female performances and the movies they came in, but a strong one for the men). Not only was that a weak year, but it’s also year where a relatively new actress (like Robbie) ended up winning. The big question is whether Barbie itself would’ve been a cultural and financial phenomenon in 2015 as it was in 2023, because that undoubtedly affects the qualitative perception of the performance as well.

          I know some of this might seem like I’m slagging off Margot as an actress, and I want to be clear, I’m not. I just didn’t feel during and after watching Barbie that the combination of the role and the performance was exceptional to the level of warranting a nomination, let alone a win. At best, she’d get a nomination in a historically weak year, but the performance and role were not winners in any reasonably modern Best Actress competition.

  • shindean-av says:

    Crash is the easiest way to say Whoopi is wrong on this one. 

  • curiousorange-av says:

    White American women must be some of the most privileged human beings to have ever lived if so many of them can get so outraged over nonsense like Ryan Gosling stealing Margot Robbie’s Oscar nomination.

    • lmh325-av says:

      I’m not outraged. I do enjoy the slight irony of it given the messaging of the film, which I do think it’s possible to acknowledge. I also do think there’s something to be said that this situation reinforces some Academy stereotypes (i.e. movies about the Holocaust and WWII are a shoo-in, we can have one female director nominated, but not two, etc)

      • Bazzd-av says:

        Ryan Gosling got nominated for the same award America Ferrera did.The irony is that people are upset that Margot Robbie got nominated for a MORE IMPORTANT award instead of acting while Ryan Gosling got nominated for the less important acting award alongside… another woman acting in the same movie.

        • kinosthesis-av says:

          You’re assigning a hierarchy of importance to the awards that doesn’t exist.

        • lmh325-av says:

          I think you see the part where I said “slight irony” given the movie talks repeatedly about how in the real world Ken would be more important than Barbie. And no, Margot Robbie did not get nominated for a “more important” award – the lack of individual awards is surprising for her and Gerwig. To my larger point – Zone of Interest is the film that is more baffling for it’s large share of individual awards and suggests the Academy still has biases against lead roles in comedies and in favor of certain subjects.

          • Bazzd-av says:

            And no, Margot Robbie did not get nominated for a “more important” award – the lack of individual awards is surprising for her and Gerwig.Because they chose to work with partners, that’s why. Why is it surprising people didn’t get individual awards when they specifically chose to work with other people on their jobs?This debate increasingly sounds like: “As someone watching how amazing this movie is due to the talents of 300 cast and crew members, I’m very frustrated that I can’t understand why these two specific people didn’t get awards set aside specifically for them… even though I didn’t watch the other movies and don’t really know what’s expected of these jobs.”The only valid argument I’ve heard so far is, “I think Lily Gladstone should have her nomination taken away and given to Margot Robbie.”Valid but completely stupid. But at least it’s a coherent argument.

      • skoc211-av says:

        It’s such a stereotype about what films win Oscars that it was satirized brilliantly on Extras. And then, of course, Kate Winslet actually did win her Oscar (on her sixth nomination) for a WW2/Holocaust film.

        • Bazzd-av says:

          Last year a movie about multiversal time traveling intergenerational angst whose climactic dialogue is resolved in a world where both characters are talking stones won best picture.The year before it was a Deaf family torn between their fishing business and college dreams.The year before it was a woman traveling the world in an RV making friends.The year before it was poor people running a scam on rich people treating them like dirt.So a 20% chance that one of a half dozen possible plots lined up isn’t that accurate.

    • bchose-av says:

      ^^yes^^Won’t someone finally give white women some attention??

  • happywinks-av says:

    Talking about who or what was snubbed is part of the fun. It’s been going on since the beginning. But it’s not surprising to me that in this day and age they’re making a bigger stink about it.
    “Not everybody gets a prize…”It’s only a matter of time.

    • gargsy-av says:

      “It’s only a matter of time.”

      No. It isn’t.

    • Bazzd-av says:

      Okay, Boomer.

      • happywinks-av says:

        Shut up, Cloud

      • luasdublin-av says:

        “Okay, Boomer.” is that still a thing?

        • Bazzd-av says:

          Are there still perpetually coddled and handheld baby boomers slinging around catchphrases they made up twenty years ago to crap on successive generations for policies they themselves invented and imposed on them unasked and a political and economic system they have a stranglehold on leading to a modern gerontocracy so terrified of their legacy being forgotten that they would rather drive it into the ground scarring the planet forever?Then “Okay, Boomer” will suffice.

  • jodyjm13-av says:

    My own take on the “snub” discourse is that if you want to say someone or something got “snubbed”, you need to list at least one nominee you thing should’ve been denied to make room for your choice. You think Scorsese and Mulligan should’ve been left out to make room for Gerwig and Robbie? Fine, let’s have that conversation. But don’t just say that X should’ve been nominated and let everyone else choose their own least-favorite nominee to “snub” in favor of X. (And I mean X as a placeholder, not as in X the movie, although I’m sure someone could make a good argument that it got shafted by the Oscars as well.)

    • gargsy-av says:

      “My own take on the “snub” discourse is that if you want to say someone or something got “snubbed”, you need to list at least one nominee you thing should’ve been denied to make room for your choice.”

      QFT.

      Which nominated actress was worse than Margot Robbie playing fucking Barbie?

    • xpdnc-av says:

      Okay, I’ll say that Scorsese should have been left out in favor of Gerwig. FOTKM is a big, overstuffed film that does only a fair job with it’s source material, while Barbie makes a generous meal out of the crumbs of a toy doll.I can’t say much about Best Actress since I’ve only seen Maestro and Barbie out of the nominees, but I would replace Mulligan with Robbie, even though I thought that Robbie did an incredible job of finding the inner life of a lifeless object.

      • Bazzd-av says:

        while Barbie makes a generous meal out of the crumbs of a toy doll.So, screenwriting. Which Greta Gerwig is nominated for.

        • xpdnc-av says:

          It takes more than a good screenplay to make a good film. Barbie linked the artificial world of the iconic doll to the real world in a way that was compelling and somehow believable. KOTFM lived entirely within the real world of our tragic past, and yet had less to say to me.

          • senatorcorleone-av says:

            Skill issue for you.

          • Bazzd-av says:

            It takes more than a good screenplay to make a good film.So, Best Picture. Which Margot Robbie is nominated for.Directors are hired guns who choreograph shots and work with actors. That’s all incredibly valuable for the visual language and the performance.But they didn’t hire the actors. They didn’t option the script. They didn’t choose what goes into the script. They didn’t hire the set designers or costume designers or budget the film or find a location or decide the final edit.Margot Robbie did all of that. And she’s nominated for it.

          • dan1988wonder-av says:

            They don’t give out awards on what a movie has to say to you personally. 

      • senatorcorleone-av says:

        What’s “FOTKM?” Totally low-quality post.

      • xpdnc-av says:

        Correction: I meant to type that I wouldn’t replace Mulligan with Robbie.

    • kinosthesis-av says:

      The only nominated director I prefer over Gerwig is Glazer, so that’s easy. I’d place Robbie over Gladstone and Stone. Havent’ seen Bening.

    • crews200pt2-av says:

      Speaking of X, that sure did get shafted. I wonder if Denzel had not won for Glory two years earlier would he have won for X? Or was that year’s award for best actor a make good for all the times Al Pacino didn’t win? And, was the Training Day win for Denzel the make up for X?  The Academy Awards have a weird history of correcting their “mistakes” years later.

  • lmh325-av says:

    It is interesting to hear someone who many feel won her Oscar for a lesser role because she had been overlooked for another. I think the word “snub” is wrong. I think there are some biases at play and this may well have been less about not including them than an unexpected focus elsewhere – there are already rumblings that Jonathan Glazer’s nomination (and the overall showing) for Zone of Interest might be nestled in politics.

  • djclawson-av says:

    I think Margot Robbie did a great job but it is feasible that at least 5 women out-acted her in the past year’s movies.

    • frommyhotel-av says:

      Exactly.  Also, what does Ryan Gosling being nominated have to do with her not being nominated.  

    • hollywudbob-av says:

      Here’s my question, why are there only 5 actors and actresses, directors, etc., in their respective categories, but 10 for best picture?

      • adamtrevorjackson-av says:

        they added 10 best picture nominees in (i believe 2010) as an attempt to get more normal people to watch the oscars. that way they could add something like ‘the dark knight’ to the nominees.

      • djclawson-av says:

        Because they used to do 5 for best picture but got a lot of backlash about not nominating more popular movies. The Dark Knight is in my opinion one of the greatest movies ever made and it wasn’t even nominated that year – and Oscar host Hugh Jackson made a joke about it in the opening monologue. There was talk about creating a “Popular Movies” category to put movies like Black Panther in, but that idea was rejected.

      • michelle-fauxcault-av says:

        Piggybacking on what others have already explained, if there were still only 5 spots for Best Picture instead, I’d say there’s a good chance Barbie itself would have missed out on making the top 5. Last year was a good year for movies.

  • gterry-av says:

    I think Margo Robbie not getting a nomination isn’t that hard to understand. If someone were to watch this movie and look at it on a very basic level or just saw the trailers they could easily write it off that 90% of how good the performance was a tall beautiful blonde woman playing a doll who is known for being tall, beautiful and blonde.

    • gfitzpatrick47-av says:

      Exactly.

      Margot Robbie is an absolutely beautiful actress who is a good performer, but the roles she’s gotten in her most notable films play up traits that tend to disguise a range that isn’t as expansive of other performers. She’s always beautiful (even in I, Tonya), she’s always charming, she always has good comedic timing, and she always catches your eye while on screen. Those are all wonderful traits to have, but they’re traits that many other performers also have, so when it comes to a specific performance, you have to ask yourself, “Was Margot the only person who could’ve done this role to a certain level of quality?” or “Did Margot make this role hers in a way that other performers couldn’t?”.

      With Barbie, while I think she was the best choice for Barbie, I don’t think the role required so much skill or talent that it would’ve been a lock for a nomination. Further, if Barbie wasn’t a financial or cultural hit, I don’t think we’d even be having this conversation. To compare, Joaquin Phoenix as Joker in Joker would’ve gotten a Best Actor nomination (if not the eventual win) whether the movie made $10m at the box office, or $1bn at the box office (which it actually did). If Barbie wasn’t as successful at the box office, I don’t think Margot’s performance would’ve been looked at as getting snubbed.

      Frankly put, she was better in movies where she got no nomination (The Wolf of Wall Street, Birds of Prey) and movies where she got nominations (I, Tonya and Bombshell). This was a role nearly tailor made for her, but the role itself (and the writing of the role) wasn’t so amazing as to make her potential nomination a certainty. There’s also the reality that this was a year with such significant competition from those who did get nominated, and many who didn’t but were close, that at best, Margot would’ve been top 10, but definitely not number 6 or 7. If Fantasia couldn’t get a nomination for Celie in The Color Purple, there’s no way that Margot should’ve gotten one.

    • senatorcorleone-av says:

      LOL no.

  • spiraleye-av says:

    Show me a Venn of the people most upset by this, including Starbucks and Stanley cups.

    • Bazzd-av says:

      There were four days of rants about Margot Robbie not being nominated for best actress and this showing that none of the women in Barbie were respected and therefore this was an attack on all women…And during those four days Lily Gladstone, America Ferrara, Justine Triet, and Best Picture were curiously not in the conversation.
      Fact is, there is a version of false consciousness feminism that wants to see blonde white women everyone has pre-approved as acceptable represent all of womanhood and feminism. And Margot Robbie’s just sitting there thinking, “Did none of you watch the damn movie?”It’s especially weird because we’re talking about two women who are exceptionally well-regarded in the industry and by the Oscars. People are now screaming about Scorsese and Nolan being pet favorites like the Oscars has somehow treated them BETTER than Gerwig and Robbie when it’s the exact opposite. LOL

  • razreshat-av says:

    Correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t the nomination (and award decision) the uncoordinated collective decision of hundreds if not thousands of people? “Snub” suggests a conscious collective decision. I think the irony is worth attention, but maybe “snub” just isn’t quite the right word for the phenomenon. 

  • asdfqwerzxcvasdf-av says:

    This is a reasonable, well-written article and I agree with the author’s point.  WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH MARY KATE CARR?

  • firewokwithme-av says:

    My thought was who spot does Robbie take than if she gets nominated? All of the other nominees gave worthy performances. Would they be considered snubbed if they didn’t get the nomination. It is really a winless argument. At least this particular Oscar season.

  • clamsteam-av says:

    Whoopi is guilty of making sense.

    Fetch my pitchfork and torches!

  • skoc211-av says:

    I’m a long time fan of awards season and I follow the lead up to the nominations, campaigns, and ceremonies pretty closely and it certainly feels like this is the internet collectively experiencing an Oscar snub for the very first time. Robbie not getting in wasn’t particularly surprising and it was predicted that she might land at the dreaded “sixth” spot, but Gerwig was generally considered a lock for Director. But the Oscars do something weird every year it just doesn’t usually involve a popular film that made over a billion dollars. Had social media been around in the same form as it is today back in 1998 I can imagine there would have been a similar freakout over Leonardo DiCaprio not being nominated for Titanic. 

  • littlegman-av says:

    Remember back in the day? People used to say let’s “make whoopi”? And it meant having sex? So my question is…do you think it’s a coincidence that no one says that anymore? 

  • seven-deuce-av says:

    She’s right.

  • gevorg89-av says:

    What would she say if black actress and black director weren’t nominated? What does she think of unfair “Oscars so white” campaign years earlier?

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