Facebook and Instagram (and Shopify) block Donald Trump indefinitely, Twitter keeps him on probation
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Donald Trump released a video message to his radical extremist followers on Wednesday that was basically the deescalation video equivalent of a celebrity apology: It only made things worse.
“I know your pain. I know you’re hurt,” Trump said in the video posted on social media amid a mob attempt at a coup inside the United States Capitol on Wednesday. “We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election and everyone knows it especially the other side, but you have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect for great people in law and order. We don’t want anybody hurt. It’s a very tough period of time. There has never been at time like this where such a thing happened where they can take it away from all of us. From me, from you, from our country. This was a fraudulent election, but we can’t play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace, so go home. We love you, you’re very special. You’ve seen what happens, you see the way others are treated that are so bad and so evil. I know how you feel, but go home and go home in peace.”
Television journalists searching for some semblance of leadership appreciated Trump telling his followers to go home, but noted that he also egged them on in the same breath. Any appearance of wanting to keep the peace was later thrown out the window when Trump tweeted, “These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!”
Now, both the video and that latest tweet have been removed from Twitter and Facebook’s “VP of integrity” (on a slower news day we’d spend some time with that title…) has announced that Facebook has removed the video as well: “This is an emergency situation and we are taking appropriate emergency measures, including removing President Trump’s video. We removed it because on balance we believe it contributes to rather than diminishes the risk of ongoing violence.”
UPDATE, January 6 @ 6:15 p.m. CT: Twitter has suspended Donald Trump’s twitter account. “As a result of the unprecedented and ongoing violent situation in Washington, D.C., we have required the removal of three @realDonaldTrump Tweets that were posted earlier today for repeated and severe violations of our Civic Integrity policy,” reads the first of a series of tweets from the Twitter Safety account. “This means that the account of @realDonaldTrump will be locked for 12 hours following the removal of these Tweets. If the Tweets are not removed, the account will remain locked…. Future violations of the Twitter Rules, including our Civic Integrity or Violent Threats policies, will result in permanent suspension of the @realDonaldTrump account…Our public interest policy — which has guided our enforcement action in this area for years — ends where we believe the risk of harm is higher and/or more severe…. We’ll continue to evaluate the situation in real time, including examining activity on the ground and statements made off Twitter. We will keep the public informed, including if further escalation in our enforcement approach is necessary.”
“DELETE HIS ACCOUNT” began trending on Twitter, a sentiment shared in part by Democratic Senator Joe Manchin. “12 hours is not sufficient,” he tweeted. “He is a danger to our democracy and should be banned from @twitter for the next 14 days”
UPDATE, January 7 @ 1:20 p.m. CT: In a statement provided to NBC News, Mark Zuckerberg announced Trump is now blocked from using Facebook and Instagram. “The shocking events of the last 24 hours clearly demonstrate that President Donald Trump intends to use his remaining time in office to undermine the peaceful and lawful transition of power to his elected successor, Joe Biden,” reads his statement. “His decision to use his platform to condone rather than condemn the actions of his supporters at the Capitol building has rightly disturbed people in the U.S. and around the world. We removed these statements yesterday because we judged that their effect — and likely their intent — would be to provoke further violence.”
This news comes the same day Shopify and Twitch announce they’ve banned Trump as well. Where you at, LinkedIn?
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Yeah that is fucking insane. Trump wanted this to happen.
You have to look back now and all those fucking idiots in 2016 who insisted that Trump somehow would be better than Hillary Clinton as President and wonder what the fuck they were thinking.This guy and his supporters are fucked and have left the US resembling a banana republic.
Somehow they fail to realize Trump and Hillary are from the same general corners of society.
You should comment less.
What?
Rich conservative people not concerned with what the people need.
You know, you can dislike Hillary Clinton without acting like she’s equivalent to an actual fascist
It is *precisely* that false belief – that no politician could possibly be interested in serving the will of their constituents (and by extension, acting in good faith at all) – that permits populists to self-serve at the expense of the obstinately disillusioned.
There are politicians like that but Hillary ain’t one of them. Few of the progressive Democrats actually support her.
Well, not just that, but letting excessive amounts of money into politics has definitely instituted a large amount of apathy among the officials that are supposed to serve the public. It’s quite easy to no longer care or interact with the world when you’re insulated away from and every problem you encounter is fixed through money.
For more weirdness from Syafiqjaber of Mars, he’s a Snyder Triablist who appears to do his performative wokeness schtick so he can accuse people who aren’t Snyder fans of being racist. Meanwhile he equates people like him who like Snyder’s movies to being a black person in America.
oh fuck, a Snyder bro…just what we don’t need right now.
Trump’s name in that sentence is an insult to corners.
Did not realize mobbed up real estate promoter and former senator and secretary of state were the same thing.
Buddy, this act was boring in 19-frickin-99. Buzz off.
Hillary Clinton was endorsed by the country’s first black President and ran the most un campaign ever.Donald Trump was endorsed by the former Grand Wizard of the Klu Klux Klan, and ran the most unapologetically racist campaign since George Wallace.They are not the fucking same and anyone who thinks they are is dumb enough to claim Hillary lost the popular vote and Barack was born in Kenya. Shut your fucking deplorable mouth and atone for what you unleashed upon this country you QAnon dotard.
better for them
70M+ still believe that, and that’s the problem.
Kinda miss Splinter for their ‘both sides’ hot takes
Worse, without him, the Turtles have fallen behind on their training, and Shredder is hot on their tails!
I don’t. Fuck’em.
Also fair. Still – was popcorn worthy sometimes.
Nah. They all managed to fail upward because hateclicks are still clicks.
The most frustrating thing to me is that seeing it clearly has not helped prevent any of it. On Election Day in 2016 it was plain as day that the morons upsetting the apple cart were going to get a lot of us crushed beneath it. And it’s been obvious all along that he’s unfit to lead and profoundly dangerous. But here we are, still.
Amid all the bullshit in his Tweets, I like how now it was a “sacred landslide election victory.”I have no illusions this will happen, but seriously, if today’s events aren’t 25th amendment territory, what the fuck is? (Apologies. I posted this independently but I’m in the grays for some reason)
All this tells us is that there are a lot of really stupid and gullible people in this country.
Yes, but emails!
who is the united fruit company in this scenario?
You have to look back now and all those fucking idiots in 2016 who insisted that Trump somehow would be better than Hillary Clinton as President and wonder what the fuck they were thinking.Plenty of knowledgeable people, psychologists and others, knew from the beginning that a person this narcissistic was bad for everybody and democracy. We are all Trump’s battered spouse now.
That’s insulting to innocent bananas. Let’s use the phrase “shithole country” instead.
“You have to look back now and all those fucking idiots in 2016 who insisted that Trump somehow would be better than Hillary Clinton as President and wonder what the fuck they were thinking.”
Oh, one dude used to follow me around for what amounted to about two years because I gave them shit for voting for Jill Stein in a swing state. Whole thing is in my profile, if you care to read it. Also, and as ever, hope they’re happy with what they helped to institute. ;-*
“Hillary is just as bad” has to be up there with “the unsinkable Titantic” now, right?
Fiala JA, Mansour SA, Matlock SE, Coolidge FL. Voter Perceptions of President Donald Trump’s Personality Disorder Traits: Implications of Political Affiliation. Clinical Psychological Science. 2020;8(2):343-350. doi:10.1177/2167702619885399 ABSTRACT: The short form of the Coolidge Axis II Inventory (SCATI) was used to measure traits associated with 14 personality disorders (according to essential Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders criteria) in Donald Trump shortly after the fall 2016 election. Liberal or conservative participants (N = 219, mean age = 38.20 years, range = 18–79 years) were randomly assigned to view a positive or negative compilation of official campaign videos depicting Trump and then completed the SCATI. The general hypothesis was supported: Respondents’ political affiliation related with personality perceptions (although campaign video compilations did not). Despite differences in magnitude, the relative strength of the traits associated with the disorders was highly similar between conservatives and liberals (intraclass correlation coefficient = .76, p < .001). On the basis of overall rankings (independent of respondent’s party affiliation), Trump’s personality was collectively perceived to be at or above the 99th normative percentile for traits associated with four personality disorders (sadistic, narcissistic, antisocial, and passive-aggressive).
America is done. Not one BLM/Antifa looter, arsonist or protester shot by police during their riots that killed, injured and cost billions in damage and an Army Vet that served her country was shot dead for peaceful protesting a rigged election. This country should burn.I have started a GoFundMe for this hero so we can build a statue to the first victim of America’s Second Civil War and place it in the Capital Building entrance.
They were thinking “I hate black people and Obama and so does this guy, so he’s my guy.”
I look at the last 4 years as the last major (I won’t say “dying” because that shitty racist moronic attitude is too engrained in American DNA to die anytime soon) gasp of old white male supremacy in America. Hillary was too off-putting to them because she was a smart woman with ambition; Putin chipped in with his bullshit interference; and even then, 3 million more people wanted her over him. I think *maybe* we’re past an inflection point towards “sanity” (with a long way to go; the cultists aren’t going anywhere, and if Biden can’t perform miracles overnight they’ll be all over him without mercy) but then I thought Hillary would win in a landslide, so what do I know.
“resembling”
I think Jack Dorsey hinted at it, but for sure Trump is going to get blocked on Twitter the moment Biden is officially sworn in.
I certainly hope so. I always found the rationale for allowing Trump to continue to tweet a bit puzzling since the White House has its own official Twitter feed for direct communication with the public.
Does Trump even use it? He seems to blabbing on his own account only.
He’d have to, if they’d banned his account years ago when he started violating their policies.
He is supposed to use that account, but actively refused since it didn’t have his name on it, and his staff gave up trying after about 2 weeks.
Part of the reason was because his personal Twitter account had more followers. It’s all about prestige with this guy, real or imagined
Indeed. When Kamala was campaigning, she often floated the idea of suspending Trump’s Twitter, which I don’t think had even been happening yet.
I recall reading that the official POTUS account is going to roll back to 0 followers once Biden is sworn in.
Considering half of them are bots and a quarter are foreign agitators, this is probably a good thing.
wow what a brave hero.
Facebook’s “VP of integrity” He’s no HBO’s CEO of Tits, that’s for sure.
God that was a good account.
America is done. Not one BLM/Antifa looter, arsonist or protester shot by police during their riots that killed, injured and cost billions in damage and an Army Vet that served her country was shot dead for peaceful protesting a rigged election. This country should burn.I have started a GoFundMe for this hero so we can build a statue to the first victim of America’s Second Civil War and place it in the Capital Building entrance.
Tits AND WINE!altho, it could be Tits and Whinge!
Zod bless you, good sir.
Trump still has 14 days to fuck things up even further. Just like the rest of the GOP, Pence and the cabinet are a bunch of fucking cowards for not invoking the 25th amendment.
I wonder how much Pence thought at the start of the Trump administration that he’d get to be president by the end of the term.
He may as well invoke the 25th now. That way he will go down in history as the 46th President, if only for a few days. He certainly won’t have a political future.
There is a drawback to that. Trump could still run for president in 2024. (if the buckets of KFC haven’t killed him by then)A swift impeachment and conviction means he never holds office again.
Exactly. Ilhan Omar said she’s drawing up the impeachment already. If 17 GOP Senators grew a spine, they’d really just be doing themselves a favor with a very quick impeachment (we know they wouldn’t want witnesses called anyway) and remove him from office. Then they don’t have to worry about him running again. But they are too dumb and scared to do that. But now is the perfect time to do it.
The upside to the riots is that it might taint Trump’s reputation and legacy for Republicans to the point they won’t want him to stand for them in 2024. You can already see some of his supporters taking a step back in order to not be associated with this. It won’t be enough for his public supporters and he could run as an independent – which would surely split Republican votes – but maybe, just maybe, he’ll have become too toxic to stand as a figurehead of the Republican Party. Sounds like an oxymoron but fingers crossed.
He may as well invoke the 25th now.Especially now that Trump is publicly shitting all over Pence for not using power he doesn’t have to overturn the election.
People are pointing to the 25th because Impeachment takes too long and they’d never get 2/3 of the House and Senate (which is disgusting in itself after yesterday’s shitshow); but of course if Pence actually used the 25th it would go like this (from what I understand):-Pence and a majority of the cabinet vote to invoke it
-Trump (immediately) writes a letter to Congress to restore his power, which would immediately be restored
-Pence (within 4 days, but preferably immediately) writes a letter to Congress stating he still wants Trump removed, and power is again given to Pence
-Congress meets within 48 hours to discuss
-Congress makes final decision within 21 days whether to remove the President or notSo basically they’d *still* need to get 2/3 of the House and Senate eventually. The main advantage is that Trump would be removed immediately as the arguments are hashed out, as opposed to Impeachment where he would remain in power throughout the process. The main disadvantage is it would require Pence and a majority of his cabinet to go along, and no one knows where everyone stands at this point.The only way they could “game the system” a bit is if they could invoke the 25th but get the GOP to buy into slowing down the debate in Congress to stretch out until 1/20, since they technically have 21 days to decide.
Yup. Any hope he had sank once the Electoral College was certified last night. Even if it would ultimately fail, he should just do it to try and salvage his own legacy.Honestly, I’m kinda surprised he didn’t resign between the election and the certification just so he didn’t have to be the guy to do it.
The only think Pence can think about is how uncomfortable he is around any woman not named “mother.”
And he’d be on track to beat William Henry Harrison’s record for shortest presidency ever from the moment he was sworn in. I wonder if his parents ever imagined he was destined for such great things?
He won’t beat the shortest ever recorded reign of a ruler of a major country, however: 34th President of Mexico Pedro Lascurain, who was President for about 45 minutes in 1913.
Honestly, about half the country, including myself, would have taken that bet. I seriously thought in 2017 that the 2020 Election would be a Democrat VS Pence as the Republican VS Trump as an independent.
In Mike Pence’s defense, he never expected to win in the first place.
Get rid of #TrumpLoser and place the PoS under federal detention ASAP. Tomorrow these MAGAshits will do something else, etc, etc.
He’ll certainly weaponize them again, and probably very soon. His video message to them after their riot was so obviously an “I guess we have to quit… for now” rather than any sort of “I was wrong.”
All this talk about the 25th Amendment better be more than just talk.
America is done. Not one BLM/Antifa looter, arsonist or protester shot by police during their riots that killed, injured and cost billions in damage and an Army Vet that served her country was shot dead for peaceful protesting a rigged election. This country should burn.I have started a GoFundMe for this hero so we can build a statue to the first victim of America’s Second Civil War and place it in the Capital Building entrance.
Pence has already changed his social media banner to a rear shot of Biden/Harris in front of a crowd.I kinda wish they left his account open now, just so we could see his meltdown in real time.
It’s a shot of Pence and Mother, not Biden and Harris.
Did Mother use wee donny’s sunbed?
It’s the lighting/filter.
Wow. Here I was, merely hoping that they’d ban the Fanta Menace’s Twitter account at 12:01 EST on Jan 20, but I guess there really is a line he could cross that would make it happen early.
For 12 hours. As a reminder to anyone who uses twitter for anything besides checking up on camgirls and Mark Hamill, twitter had the unilateral authority to lock his account anytime. For example when he started disputing the election. Or when he called on police to shoot protestors. Anytime. And now their emergency action is to lock his account temporarily after he invited a riot to try and overturn an election. They are an advertising platform that has abetted fascism through force of ineptitude. Anyone using twitter to protest twitter, rather than deleting their account, is an idiot.
You’re banned from this historical society! You, and your children, and your children’s children!For 12 hours.
I love a good Trump disgrace story even when I’m enjoying my chicory.
For 12 hours starting from when he removes the violating posts, which he will never do.
Amid all the bullshit in his Tweets, I like how now it was a “sacred landslide election victory.” I have no illusions this will happen, but seriously, if today’s events aren’t 25th amendment territory, what the fuck is?
which has guided our enforcement action in this area for years They lie like they breath. Lying liars. Every shit-stain at Twitter is partly responsible for this mess. You don’t get to pretend you have standards after willingly being used as a propaganda machine for four fucking years.
Thank you. (Same goes for some of the Republican speeches on the Floor tonight)
God, those pissed me off. Hey, fuckfaces, you don’t to act like this was some unprecedented thing that came out of nowhere if your opponents have been warning you about it for five fucking years. At that point, it’s not “we can’t do this,” it’s “we shouldn’t have done this.”
As an organization, they’re definitely culpable, but there’s been changes in their executive team in the last couple months, so some of the people making these decisions inherited the mess, instead of being the ones who created it
When they started deleting other people’s alt-right propaganda & just putting fact-check labels on Herr Leader’s own tweets of the exact same stuff, it hit me: They’ve been collecting evidence to use against him once he’s arrested after leaving office.
Wouldn’t it be crazy if we got rid of Trump and Caillou in the same day?
Have President Trump and Caillou ever been seen in the same room together?
Hmmmmmmm….They both whine like motherfuckers….
Let’s stick to pop culture guys, for instance –
Holy shit. The Fonz does not fuck around.
Who doesn’t love the Fonz.
Henry Winkler is great. He did a great job in that guest appearance in Law and Order: SVU.
Who doesn’t love the Fonz.Chachi?
Fonz the assassin is a twist I never suspected.
Exactamundo…
It’s stunning to see such a kind and patient man break the forbidden seal on his rage.
Lots of trees and light posts in DC.
And gas stations.
Yeesh. I know he threw the word “term” in there but he’s still invoking Mussolini’s death. I know emotions are high and everyone is justified to be pissed (and every REAL American should be), but try not to say things like that. The treasonous fuckwads that broke in the Capitol say things like that. That’s how they think and behave. Instead, use language that invokes holding people like Trump accountable through law and order (real law and order, not that Trump campaign bullshit). Punish as the criminal he is and never let anyone forget those who supported this travesty. Shame them at every instance.
How about just one lamppost suspension, then return to regularly scheduled due process?
I guess Mike didn’t hear about the first lady who breached the House? Shot, taken away in an ambulance, and now reports are coming in she’s died.3-4 others have also been treated “for unrelated injuries”, afaik.
Yeah for storming the capital. Not for just existing while Black.
I was thinking the same thing as Michael Rappaport when I was watching the footage. When the riot cops pushed back the crowd, there was a guy standing on a barrier taunting the cops, and I remembered that old dude that got shoved and cracked his skull during the BLM protests (and he was white!!). Before that, there was some guy getting up in a cop’s face with a camera, and they never even touched him. It’s disgraceful.
I’m not a Rappaport fan, but he fucking nailed it.
Michael Rappaport is echoing my sentiments exactly.
So funny that the guy whose most famous character was famous for not being able to say the words “I was wrong” (remember??? “I was wr-wr—-wrrrrrrr—-wrr…”) lays a one-punch beatdown, Al’s jukebox-style, to a WH squatter who has ALSO never said he was wrong.Need to just add a few rabid wolves and about 4,000 rounds of 7.62mm to that Mussolini image, and that’d be about right.
I really want to know what Trump is thinking right now! He has to be so pissed off
Oh god yes. He must be losing his goddamned mind right now.
Considering that I’ve heard credible rumors that his cabinet is considering invoking the 25th Amendment, that might literally be true, actually.
Oh getting shanked by his own cabinet would be a sweet, delicious cherry on top of a big fat loser sundae.
Cheeseburger.
Potentially unpopular opinion: While it is absolutely pathetic that we’ve reached this point and Trump deserves all sorts of blame for this and that video could and should have been worded better in any number of ways… the crowd did seem to start disbursing after he released that video… in some ways maybe he had to talk to these fuckers in their language of whiney bullshit in order to make them back down? Or not?
Cellphone signals weren’t even getting through in the Capitol area at that point
Oh.
No cellphones = no bombs and coordinated attacks.
Well, that’s a fucking stupid thing to say.
My guess is that, stupid as they obviously are, the rioters realized that nothing was going to happen. Nothing was going to change. Also, if they stayed, the National Guard (DC, Maryland, and Virginia) would remove them with due efficiency.
So, they can talk the revolution talk, but when actual soldiers come out, they sure as shit can’t walk the walk.
I wonder if the terrorists were sort of expecting police and guard to side with them?
They DID hang around until the NG showed up, and all that happened was them being slowly and non-violently being escorted off the premises.
Not just that, but they didn’t even have a plan for after they got inside. The videos would be comical if they weren’t disturbing. They finally busted through and gained free access and just started posing for pictures and looking around. No one had the forethought to plan for what to do once inside. Just “StoRm tHe CaStlE!!” and then what? Stand at the podium like a jackass and read the mail? Bunch of loons the lot of them.
They were so without a plan that, having BROKEN WINDOWS AND DOORS TO GET IN, they inexplicably stayed within the velvet ropes as they walked through the rotunda?You know how when you go to Disney World you will randomly see long ass lines apparently to nowhere, and lots of people mindlessly getting into the line because in their pea brains long lines=good things? That’s what this was. These are the dumbest of the dummies. Drawn equally to dumb stupid shiny things and to throngs of others who might lead them to dumb stupid shiny things. This is what Trump has wrought and these are his people.
so even with the Capital Police helping them, they still lost.
Or, I’m just spitballing here, maybe the tear gas, the riot squads, and the National Guard convinced them.
Plus, it was getting dark. That’s when those scary black people come out!
Trump’s video went out at 4:22. Federal agents moved in at 4:45, National Guard at 5:20.
I wasn’t there on the ground, but I think the latter two of those events had more impact.
Considering the reports that he didn’t want to make a statement at all (the fucker was loving this) I would argue Trump released the video as people had already started to disperse, precisely so that it would look like it was somewhat effective.
America is done. Not one BLM/Antifa looter, arsonist or protester shot by police during their riots that killed, injured and cost billions in damage and an Army Vet that served her country was shot dead for peaceful protesting a rigged election. This country should burn.I have started a GoFundMe for this hero so we can build a statue to the first victim of America’s Second Civil War and place it in the Capital Building entrance.
Disagree, he’s basically winking at the camera, he’s not serious about getting them to go home.
I would have thought hard condemnation that tells them the person they’re fighting for is actually against them would be more effective. (Putting Trump’s inability to really do that to one side….)
I honestly think they’d turn on Trump if he ever took a hard turn towards doing the right thing. It’s not about him anymore. He’s just the avatar to channel their hatred. You can incite a mob, but you can’t lead one.
You do not, under any circumstance, gotta hand it to him.
Can’t he just tweet from the White House or POTUS accounts?
He probably forgot the passwords.
I don’t think he holds passwords for those – the Press Secretary’s office runs that account. And the deputy press sec just quit.
Those don’t have his name on them or his follower count. He’s all about his brand.
Heh, turns out he tried. Twitter got those, too. (there may be some legal issue there as all tweets from the “official” accounts must be archived in the LoC.)
I really love MAGA Che Guevara here. Someone please give him the t-shirt/dorm poster treatment.
Grand Poobah and the Beirdos should also be remembered.
It’s the Jamiroquai logo come to life.
I *need* to know what the deal is with Animal Skin Guy (as somebody on WFMU was calling him today). Why’s he dressed up like that? What’s his story? Is he is an absolute choad, or just a dillweed?
Hes a Qanon shamen. No really he’s some spiritual guru.
If you are the type that likes podcasts, check out QAnon Anonymous. They have been covering this insane and stupid movement for a couple years now and have discussed this guy, The Q Shamen, several times. He’s shows up to a lot of MAGA and Q rallies. The fact that people on the right are claiming he is Antifa is hilarious.
A quick Google revealed some people also think he is married to Nancy Pelosi’s daughter.
QAnon Anonymus is one of my favorite podcasts. I’m a few weeks behind but I can’t wait to hear their coverage of the riot.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/jake-angeli-qanon-shaman-stormed-capitol-b1784091.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Angeli
“One of the people who stormed the Capitol was the easily identifiable figure of the “Q Shaman,” whose real name is Jake Agneli, a small-time actor, voice-over artist, and singer from Arizona who has become a leading figure within the movement, appearing at many QAnon events.”From Vice.com
I hate that I know this, but the guy dressed like a college freshman crossed with a Viking is pretty big in the Qanon movement. He calls himself the Q Shamen.
Well, he should be easy for the FBI to find then. That tattoo will look great after he develops a fat gut in prison.
God that looks like a young Brett Favre.
I loved his dad in Uncut Gems.
As terrible as this all was, man, he sure looks like hes having a fun time.If he wasnt such a raging dipshit, me might be fun to have a few beers with.
If he isn’t banned right now, I hope he will be just as soon as he’s out of office and no longer “politically relevant.”
Silver lining: every one of these idiots’ refusal to wear masks means they’re all gonna be easily identifiable
I said that too! Right on.
Not just that they’re refusing to wear masks, but they’re taking photos of themselves in the middle of committing acts of sedition.With cell phones, recording location data.
Certainly, none of them are there because of their intelligence and good decision-making skills – glad that should pay off when it comes to bringing charges after the fact, but we really don’t need more covid cases right now. It’s too bad the people who act stupidly aren’t usually the ones who end up getting sick and dying – it’d solve a lot of problems.
That Manchin tweet the most wet noodle, do nothing, Neo-lib thing I’ve ever seen. If it was parody of establishment Dems they’d say it was too on-the-nose.“He’s threatening to tear apart the fabric of our democracy! We must take the extreme action of… banning him for two whole, entire weeks!”
I think Manchin’s point is that in two weeks, Trump will no longer be president, and therefore not as dangerous. Or it could be that thing you said.
For me, the bar is set so incredibly low with Manchin that I’m sort of impressed that he went that far. I mean, dude is from WEST VIRGINIA which has gone totally batshit crazy. Isn’t it, like, the reddest state now? I mean, besides Wyoming and Idaho. You can’t expect too much from the bottom-barrel states. (It’s really sad considering how core a part of the labor movement WV used to be, and how beautiful a place it is.)
Hell, West Virginia became a state because they didn’t want to join the Confederacy when the rest of Virginia succeeded.
Manchin is likely the last Democrat who will hold that seat. And since his next election is in a Presidential year, it’s likely this will be his last 4 years as a Senator.And you really really don’t want to know what a Republican Senator from West Virginia is gonna look like in the post-Trump era. Think Don Blankenship but like actually running from a jail cell.
Well he is the most conservative Democrat alive. 20 Years ago he would have been a Republican.
Yeah, on policy, he’s a conservative. He’s spent more time talking about containing the “extreme left” than the right. But the bar has moved, and to be a Republican today, you either have to be a psychopath or have some kind of minor brain damage that causes problems with identifying reality.
He’s spent more time talking about containing the “extreme left” than the right.
He’s playing good cop/bad cop. The concern coming out of 2020 was that nationally Democrats were viewed as being too far left…which is why Biden outperformed nearly every downballot Democratic candidate (including the squad).Manchin has enough of a reputation that he can play the counter balance to the Squad. Him getting out in front of cameras to talk about how “Defunding the Police” isn’t going to happen helps Dems shape the message that the goal is reform and not abolishment.Which, I thought was the goal of the slogan.
20 years ago he would have been a Republican, and 40 years ago he would have been the most extremely right-wing Republican.With the way things have been going, 20 years from now he’ll probably be considered the most liberal Democrat.
He’s the most conservative Democratic Senator, the most conservative Democratic legislators prior to this last election were Colin Peterson (MN-07) and Lipinski (IL-03).Manchin never votes against the caucus when it’ll make a difference, he held with Dems defending the ACA, on the GOP tax bill, on Impeachment, and against Barrett.He also likely faced his final election in 2018. But he survived this long being smart and knowing how to take the tough votes and translate them to his district.He’ll help blow up the filibuster the first time McConnell or the GOP caucus block something important enough (we’re talking COVID relief, HR1, etc).And after yesterday, he’ll be an easy vote for DC statehood. And he’ll absolutely hold the line with the caucus to approve every last one of Biden’s nominations.
I hope your right.
There are more Senators than him who wouldn’t be able to vote for something like abolishment of police or the complete elimination of private insurance without losing their seats but he’ll gladly be the guy who takes the public stance in opposition so they can pass other more popular reforms under the guise of “moderation.”It’s a love/hate relationship, but we’re going to miss him once some right wing Q nut takes that seat in 2024.And, obviously, people who blame the entire Democratic party for Manchin often fail to realize that the quickest and easiest way to get rid of that problem isn’t to remove him, but to elect more Democratic Senators so his vote is less crucial.It’s why the Squad’s going to be in a tight spot for at least the next two years. House majority is too narrow for them to cast protest votes against otherwise necessary bills. Like they did back during the 2018/19 shutdown. Pelosi will need to give her more vulnerable members room to protect themselves, which is when the safe seats are supposed to step up and use that safety to get the bill across the finish line.
So they’re going to have to moderate somewhat as well. If the caucus can’t count on their vote when it matters they’ll have to look elsewhere, or worse…it could make it harder for red/purple Dems to do the work they need to hold their seats.
From Day 1, Twitter claimed they couldn’t ban Trump because he was President. Manchin’s argument is to remove him for two weeks because at that point he is no longer President and then he should once again be subject to all the normal rules for the rest of us plebs.
So, this is what it took to get Twitter to suspend his account?
Public. Fucking. Execution. For any and all seditionists involved in the Nazi and Confederate flag waving invasion today.
What else would you expect from American Hitler? (Oh wait: my posting from 2.5 years ago as I went into great detail for why Donald is American Hitler has been deleted by kinja.com. ) The curse of prescience.
welp. i’m gonna sit this one out and enjoy my lunch at the beach. A little unfocused after a long few months, so takeaway is my best and easiest choice (don’t judge me).
Might I suggest some hopefully-not-too-perfect-for-the-situation reading?
romantic and all. I am only right now out of the surf, covered in salt and sand and some light jellyfish stings. I had to wander along the beach to find a half drunk bottle of wine, the tides had dragged me along north. no fear of the water, even when half inebriated. My surface, my sinking, my shattered salty sense, smashing into me down and under. Not so much of a reader, more of a doer (I had to explain to a student the other day ‘what’s a “doer”?’, ‘something who does stuff instead of thinking stuff’). happy stuff.
sand everywhere in my apartment, in my bed, my clothes, everyhwere.
it would be literally non-reality for me to struggle in the surf or any kind of water, ever, short of like a shark species specialised in shallow swimmers that’s also like, evading nets and every sonar-light-human deterrent there is. but ok. hard to say.
I’ll be surprised if Trump is still president by morning. 25th or he flees the country.
“Florida Representative Matt Gaetz is now on the floor blaming antifa for the Trump supporters who stormed the Capitol.”Once again, thanks Florida.
You should check out Kevin Sorbo’s twiiter for some more batshit craziness.
And then check out Lucy Lawless’s twitter for some pure awesomeness.
I figured that opportunistic piece of shit would have jumped ship from his daddy Donny by now, but apparently Gaetz has decided to take a page from the Captain of the Titanic and go down with the stinking ship.
There’s a reason his district (western panhandle) is referred to as South Alabama.Much like Cincinnati is known as North Kentucky.
He sounds like an “Idiocracy” Mister Rogers.
Sitting on a hill side, watching all the people die…
So what’s his first tweet when his probation ends? I think…it will be a thoughtful, solemn reflection where he finally concedes.Ahhhhhhhh, I’m just kidding, it’s going to be a string of all-caps racial slurs.
I just don’t get the power Trump wields. I just don’t get it. He says the stupidest shit- things that should get him laughed out of a room or booed off a stage. But it never happens. He could say the sky is pink, and people would like, believe it? Right wing media would rush to explain why he’s not wrong. Educated people are playing along with someone who has the mental capacity of a child. I don’t get it. His term is over and people are still loyal to him- even though he is of no use to them anymore. I don’t get it. President or no, this is not how power should work. Outside of the debates, I’ve never once watched a public address of Trump’s. Because nothing he says is worth listening to. This was a term where he should have been ignored while everyone else just does their jobs. He’s just a man; Only a strong as we make him, but for some reason, we made him invincible? Now we’re left with 4 years plagued with criminality and destruction. I had family visit from overseas- not the best timing, but she always dreamed of coming here… and now she went home convinced America is a hellscape. And after what transpired at the capitol, and the fact that Republicans are still objecting to Biden’s win on Trump’s behalf, I really think some rule changes need to be made on the Constitutional level. Immediately. (I also think it’s fine to stop pretending to be nice to Trump supporters. After today they have no leg to stand on. Ever again.)
I just don’t get the power Trump wields. I just don’t get it. He says the stupidest shitIt’s the power of stupidity. Are you underestimating it ?Stupidity means zero self-awareness, which means projected confidence, and self confidence induces people’s confidence.Stupidity means oversimplification, and our “economical brains”, exhausted by the world’s increasing complexity, crave simple explanations. Intellectual laziness validated by a source of authority.Stupidity prevents scruples. All the knee-jerk judgments that we don’t dare to make because deep down we know them to be unfair and selfish, Trump thinks them in our behalf. Look at internet comments. The most popular ones aren’t the most balanced, but the most outrageous in the correct direction, the one that express your own restrained feelings, one notch beyond what you accept to express yourself. The ones that liberate you from your restraint.Stupidity is a personality. A personality as a spectacle, a spectacle is a currency, a currency is power. Trump is entertaining, therefore overexposed, therefore familiar, therefore comfortable. Of course he gets adopted as a mascot.Stupidity ignores self-contradictions. It allows for the most blatant double standards. And this is very much applied, in particular, to the respect of democratic institutions. Left-wing intellectuals are, by definition, in permanent reflexivity, judging their own identity and history through de-centered critical lenses, and thus prone to the shame and contrition that conservatives reject. Leftist are perpetually asking themselves stuff like “are we being racist without realising it”, “how will we be judged in retrospect”, etc. It’s exploitable by cynical brutes who never care for such questions and who know their opponents do immensely. So they can force others to follow the rules that they transgress. Such as “showing respect for the presidential function”.There are so many, so many ways stupidity is a force. Like its conjoined twin evil. Evil simplifies every equation by suppressing all variables that aren’t your own ass. Caring for one thing only makes any problem much easier. It’s a clearer, better defined goal, with less complex parameters. Suppress ecological concerns and social issues, consider every human as a expendable tool, and you get a target easier to reach. Intelligence makes too many costs unacceptable, considers too many solutions absurdly destructive. At an individual level (and they are largely defined by their focus on the individual level), stupidity and evil are formidable powers in and by themselves. Whichever the scale.
People love a guy who encourages them to be their worst selves.
This comment needs more stars.
Because Trump is brazenly, blatantly, unrepentantly bigoted. He doesn’t use dog whistles, or make his racist comments with anonymous burner accounts, or apologise when called out for any of it. He gets up on stage and publically and proudly acts like a hateful asshole, and doubles and triples and quadruples down on it. And they love him for it.
I was gonna type up a whole big response but then I realized that it’s mostly all written down already:https://www.zinnedproject.org/materials/peoples-history-of-the-united-states
I just don’t get the power Trump wields. I just don’t get it.
Trump is the ID of the GOP. The years of fostering anti-intellectualism and coddling white supremacy lead to him being able to step in and harness that because he wasn’t afraid to just throw it back in all of their faces.
There are studies that show people often will double-down rather than admit they were duped. So that explains some of the middle-ground folks who should know better. Folks who aren’t that bright, but would see the problem if it was happening somewhere else.
There are the complete idiots who “trust their gut” over verifiable fact. And there are people who live in a bubble of misinformation where everything they hear reinforces that the sky is pink.Then there are the wealthy or power-hungry who viewed him as a “useful idiot”, and if all they cared about was gutting of regulations and major tax breaks, they got what they want and can ride out the storm in their towers.Present GOP politicians are worried if they say anything that contradicts him, he might have enough pull with voters to sink their chances of re-election, or their ambitions for higher office.
there’s also this new prism of deep, deep, unchecked narcissism and ego combined brought on by that sweet, sweet dopamine drip. if the only thing that gets your rocks off is ‘pissing off libs’, and for the last 4 (and let’s be real, more like 10+) years you’ve been chasing that dragon, it gets harder and harder to admit you’re wrong…because these people have no interest in doing that.also, frankly, you’re trying to apply logic to the illogical. we can put all the wanky ‘explanations’ we have for this, but it’s really a million different things doing a million other things in tandem.even this comment explaining it is rooted in my own narcissism and ego. ‘oooh if i say something good and smart the star number goes big!’
A big part of Trump’s power is his ability to hog all of the attention. His supporters, of course, hang on his every word, but his detractors show up to register their disgust. While more reasonable people might get some coverage, he just has to say something stupid or controversial or incendiary and it’s all anyone can talk about.I don’t often do New Year’s Eve resolutions, because I just don’t think they’re very good drivers of change….but I’m making one this year: Once they perp-walk him out of the White House*, once he no longer has direct access to the levers of presidential power, I’m going to do my best not to talk, write, read, watch, or listen to anything about Trump, unless something truly newsworthy (not a dumb tweet or the like) pops up. I want to cleanse his toxic presence from the media I consume (and the media I put out). I wish the mainstream media would do the same, because I think that becoming irrelevant is probably what he fears more than losing the election or facing consequences for his many crimes.*No, he’ll probably just leave normally, but I can dream, can’t I?
This quote from Dusty Rhodes from A Face in the Crowd kind of explains it: “Rednecks, crackers, hillbillies, hausfraus, shut-ins, pea-pickers – everybody that’s got to jump when somebody else blows the whistle. They don’t know it yet, but they’re all gonna be ‘Fighters for Fuller’. They’re mine! I own ‘em! They think like I do. Only they’re even more stupid than I am, so I gotta think for ‘em.”Basically the last four years is a real-life adaptation of A Face in the Crowd with an alternate, less hopeful ending.
Simple. Stupid attracts stupid. He gained enough votes from fellow stupids to hijack the GOP by the balls, and they had no choice but to play along and hope they can grab all those stupid votes for their elections as well. Except for Ted Cruz, he was stupid to begin with.
America is done. Not one BLM/Antifa looter, arsonist or protester shot by police during their riots that killed, injured and cost billions in damage and an Army Vet that served her country was shot dead for peaceful protesting a rigged election. This country should burn.I have started a GoFundMe for this hero so we can build a statue to the first victim of America’s Second Civil War and place it in the Capital Building entrance.
12 hours have now passed. Any update on his Twitter account? I could check, you know, myself…but I ain’t going to that hive of scum and villainy.The entire situation last night had the real feeling of “A25 was invoked, but not publicly announced yet”.
It’s back, but three of his last five posts have been deleted via Twitter themselves.
The same idiots who have been clamoring for revolution just got a glimpse of what happens when their enemy gets the same idea. Its not pleasant.
What exactly were these chuckleheads planning on doing once they breached the Capitol? Its not like your mere presence there give you the power to overturn the election. Just look at the video… they are just kind of meandering around the floor like “now what?”.
Based on the images of some of them packing zip ties, I think they were rendered confused that there weren’t Democratic legislators present for them to terrorize, torture, and murder.
Dictionary definition of too little too late, but it might save some lives.
does Twitter have any right to prevent the dissemination or posting of his idiotic videos even after he deleted them? Because those things should NOT be forgotten especially as his cultists start the process of rewriting yesterday as Antifa’s responsibility, or something to be expected when you mistreat so many “hard-working upstanding Americans”.
Fox News edited that clip so it was just, “We have to have peace, so go home. We love you, you’re very special.”Repeatedly. I watched for hours. Tucker Carlson should be dropped off in the middle of North Korea and left to fester. He’s a human stain.
Trump had a Twitch account? Or was it a preemptive, “just in case, fuck you”? Because either way, I’m laughing.
Welp looks like you can go ahead and update this one too.