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In an uneven finale, American Horror Story says you can't outrun your fate

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In an uneven finale, American Horror Story says you can't outrun your fate

The apocalypse has finally come to an end. After nine episodes that seemed practically plodding after the overstuffed episodes of last year’s Cult, the season finale packed in everything, including so many clips from those last nine episodes you’d have to be forgiven for thinking an editor had been sleeping on the job and accidentally spliced the “previously on” in every five minutes.

The return of Angela Bassett was as welcome as it was wholly unnecessary. Marie Laveau barely has time to glare at Michael before he’s eating her heart. Her triumphant, blink and you miss it cameo captured the overall feel of the episode. There was a lot to smile about. Kathy Bates exploded! And her oozing head sang “Daisy Bell!” But what was it all for?

Likewise Cordelia’s sacrifice was so inevitable it seemed strange for it to play out like a surprising choice, to anyone involved. Since Mallory was first identified as the next Supreme, it was clear Cordelia would have to die so Mallory could rise and reach her full potential. Could Myrtle really be shocked by Cordelia’s suicide, especially when she offered an “I love you,” before walking very slowly and intentionally out of the room where their last hope seemed to be bleeding out in the bathtub? Billy Eichner’s jilted lover returning just long enough to stab Mallory was surprising. Where it ultimately brought the storyline was not.

Maybe the biggest problem the writers had to deal with was the fact the dots laid out in this season had, for the most part, been connected before the finale. If the audience understood Mallory and Coco must have been put under an identity spell for their protection if they were bumping around the bunker completely powerless, did we need to see it performed? If the pilot had already offered a peek into what their assistant/boss from hell dynamic looked like, did we need to see it play out under the watchful eyes of Madison? And while you don’t really need an excuse to watch Jessica Lange act, if we knew Michael eventually ended up in the loving arms of Ms Mead, desperate for a maternal figure, did we need to see his Grandma reject him completely then throw him out? It’s possible that scene even undercut, just a little, the moment when she leaves him to bleed out in the street after Mallory the time traveler hit him with her car. The moment just after he begs her to put him in the murder house does offer the night’s best moment of suspense. In a world where people often act against their own best interests in a spectacular fashion, it didn’t seem implausible that she might have preserved her grandson’s murderous spirit in the house with the rest of his family forever. But maybe she knew it was time for a new son of Satan to rise.

Getting past the terrifying new bit of world building that says you don’t need anything as specific as an evil ghost in the mix to give birth to the Antichrist, just two nice twenty-somethings who like coffee, going back to the season’s narrative beginnings (actually, to the series’ beginnings) could be seen as capturing an idea about the inescapable nature of fate. But while last season’s cyclical moment, the cult victim turned cult leader assassin turned cult leader at least captured an evolution, a second bouncing baby Antichrist, with the exact same MO as toddler Michael, just seems like a let down. The good guys won, and while it can be satisfying in a twisted way to see the people you’re rooting for realize their victory will be short lived, allowing only the audience to realize this bleak development felt hollow. Here’s hoping it’s all a set up for season nine—American Horror Story: Demonic Preschool. Maybe all Michael needed was some equally bloodthirsty kids to play with so he’d reach his full potential without so much angst.

That’s it for AHS: Apocalypse. Thanks for reading this season!

Stray Observations

  • It was obviously suppose to be a callback to the pilot when the top secret apocalypse police picked up Timothy because his 23andme kit proved he had desirable DNA, but there is no way Emily, protestor against child labor, would go on even an apology date with a dude who said with no trace of irony he was .07% Brazilian.
  • Even if you run over the Antichrist three times, you should probably just double check he actually died. Better safe than sorry when the literal fate of the world is in your hands.
  • It makes sense Mallory would want to keep the whole “knowing the future because she averted the apocalypse” thing a secret, but in a school for witches, would it really be a big deal to tell Queenie she’s heard of the hotel, and it traps your soul? It seems less dangerous than counting on her frustration with traffic to keep herself out of harm’s way.
  • So Coco, Mallory, Mr. Gallant and his Grandma were in the bunker because the witches set it up, Timothy and Emily were satanic plants, and Dinah and company got seats after she sold her soul. But Palo Alto tweedledee and tweedledum told Myrtle outpost three was full. So where were the rest of the celebrities? Surely they could have gotten some premium impersonators to round out the ensemble.
  • Nan is the best. That is all.

190 Comments

  • dogbraincatscan-av says:

    The least believable part of this entire episode series was that a millenial couple a few years post college with a baby in their early 20s would be able to afford such a sweet mid-century home in California.

    • on-2-av says:

      Like Rosemary’s Baby has taught us, inadvertent and unwilling conception of the AntiChrist at least come with pretty sweet real estate.And closet space.

    • vw0-av says:

      Yeah, it’s like Burying the Ex. The least believable thing in that movie about a woman who comes back as a zombie through magic is that Anton Yelchin’s character could afford the apartment he had, alone, on a costume shop clerk salary. 

    • eliza-cat-av says:

      I mean, they had Satan’s baby. Wouldn’t he manipulate reality to get them luck in that? Also, Tim’s family seemed fairy well off.

    • awesomecars-av says:

      That really has nothing to do with the story line at all. Nothing. There is no telling how many different ways they could have came to be there. 

    • Timoria-av says:

      Thatwas literally all I was thinking about during the whole ending scene… …so I had to watch it. twice because I couldn’t even pay attention whore wondering how they have that house…

    • rkg123-av says:

      Actually, The least believable part for me was that a first generation VW Touareg would be reliable enough to make it even in 2018, let alone 2023.

    • disquslupr34wzlf--disqus-av says:

      He forgot to mention his .7% was royalty.

    • kukluxklam2-av says:

      It’s a tired TV trope. Nearly every tween show on Disney or Nickelodeon features large financially strapped familys living in beautiful 4,500 square foot homes in affluent neighborhoods. Very few shows now-a-days go the way “Good Times” did back in the 70’s and show these TV folks living in shit-holes.

  • on-2-av says:

    So, we got Mutt and Jeff and Gallant…making Billy also Goofus?

  • poetjunkie-av says:

    Yuh know what? I….. I didn’t hate it. I soft liked it. I… I liked it.Maybe it’s just by comparison to the utter shitshow that was the last couple of seasons, but this was probably one of the most well-rounded seasons in a while. NOT perfect by any means, not glittering with writerly talents, but they actually closed the narrative loops they opened, FOR ONCE. It told a complete story; rushed the ending (Did they run out of money? They could’ve spared an extra half hour… maybe showed a little more of the Devil and his minions), but they at least answered the questions they asked with each episode. I wanted deeper answers and less whimpy spawn of Satan, but I liked the overall story.Michael Langdon was just awful, and I know people cream themselves over the actor (Cody something?), I just couldn’t get behind him. Unattractive, unlikeable, whiney, pooooorly acted…. suffice to say, I was glad to see him get run over the whitest of white lady suv’s, a Range Rover. Billie Lourde is a generally terrible actor, but this season pulled something out of her by the end and she wound up being likeable. Myrtle Snow wins the All Star trophy for fantastic characters… I smiled every time she was on the screen. MAN would I love to write dialogue for her, I bet she’d be a blast to write, and her setting Billy Eichner on fire? Yes. Yes and yes. Speaking of… his and Evan peters entire storyline was unnecessary and the sadist in me was hoping for a horrible end for the both of them, but yuh can’t get everything you want in life. As a fellow gay, I support Eichner playing a douchebag dudebro, but lady… ain’t nobody believing that. Peters was severely underutilized this season, Kathy Bates exploding and then singing was fantastic, Whatsherface getting her head blown up made me cackle even if I did like that they redeemed her character, and the bit at the end with the new Murder Baby was a nice way to round off eight seasons worth of story.Now that they’ve mined the shows back-catalogue, I’m excited to see what they come up with going forward… it’d be nice to see a soft reboot that doesn’t reference anything they’ve done before. Maybe that long-rumored “AHS in Spaaace” could be cheesetastic fun?

    • gseller1979-av says:

      Peters was severely underutilized this season but I did like that we got a return appearance from James March, who might actually be my favorite Peters character (he’s just such a weirdly jovial psychopath). I would have been fine with Queenie heading back to the Cortez if it meant we saw him again in this episode.

      • fartytowels-av says:

        I am unable to restrain myself from laughing out loud whenever I see Peter’s rendition of James March.
        He is so outlandishly over the top that I burst into laughter the second he opens his mouth. That accent is nothing short of comedy gold.He reminds me of a cartoon character from my childhood I can’t remember clearly.
        I want to say from Tom & Jerry, but I don’t think that’s right.In a good way, I suppose.
        -Unless we’re supposed to find March frightening in any way, then no, not in a good way.

        • ginagm-av says:

          Would it be this guy?

          • fartytowels-av says:

            YES! Exactly that! I’ve been trying to remember since yesterday, thank you!
            In my head is was some sort of gangster cat from Tom & Jerry, some cooky caricature like this guy:
            “Crambole!”

        • cschu-av says:

          Honestly, if there could just be an hour of him and Myrtle Snow and Bubbles conversing it would be fine with me. 

        • cschu-av says:

          Honestly, I am happy about this season because we got more Myrtle. But, I would have been happy for an entire season of Myrtle, Bubbles, James March, Liz Taylor and maybe B.D. Wong. It would not matter what they did: grocery shopping, having dinner, playing cards anything.

      • wirelessjoe-av says:

        They could have spared 30 seconds to show Queenie walk up to the doors of the Cortez when march peeks his head out and says:
        “I’m terribly sorry, my dear; for you see we are closed…for renovations. I’ve made arrangements for you at the Comfort Inn suites two blocks down. Go on, now; there’s a good girl.” And then he slams and locks the door. It could be like the “Favor” Papa Legba and the other demons did for killing the spawn of Satan. March, as an agent of Hell, knows what’s happened and gives up the chance at Queenie’s soul.

      • dummytextdummytext-av says:

        Peters needs to be let loose to ham it up like that more often. His March is always a delight. A strangely likable psychopath. 

    • ericmontreal22-av says:

      I generally agree, though I liked it a lot less than you did 😉 The ending of course made the fanfave Return to Murder House episode completely moot (does that mean in future years they can return again to Murder House to play therapist to the ghosts there?)

      I was surprised they made no connection between Joan’s two characters. God love her, and she was great, but the only difference between the characters was one was a witch without much money and one was a bitch with a lot of money.

      Murphy/Falchuk once again completely fumbled any gay characters throughout the season but it barely mattered.

      I’m still confused why they made such a big deal about Lily Rabe’s character’s return again when when she returned in the previous future she quickly decided not to help the others and go on tour with Stevie Nicks.

      They DID tie up the big questions—though not with brilliant “answers” but there still were an awful lot of story points that ultimately proved worthless.

      (Ohand since I’ve defended Cody Fern before in reply to your posts, I want to make clear I did not “cream” for him here 😛  He was utterly miscast, though obviously some of the fault on that goes for how poorly the character was conceived and written.  I just meant that I have seen him do very good work in other things so I have a hard time feeling the character was a failure just due to a poor actor… So there 😛 )

      • poetjunkie-av says:

        Jesus, I didn’t even consider that the finale basically undid the relatively happy ending for the Murder Hoise ghosts… that’s just cruel, even by AHS standards (and yet I don’t think it was intentional, just a result of lazy, convenient writing).And I’m unfairly harsh on Cody Fern, especially about his looks. That’s just me being shallow… this was my first exposure to him as an actor and I think it’s one of those cases where the writers made him thoroughly unlikeable in all the wrong ways, and now I can’t divorce the actor from the character. There’s a pop-psyche term for that out there somewhere…And Lilly Rabe! I forgot about her, probably because she was there for five seconds and then she wasn’t for hand wavey reasons. Fantastic actress that the Coven/Apocalypse storylines completely wasted by having her be so vacant. Ah well… next season mayhaps?

        • gesundheitall-av says:

          I still think Cody Fern was pretty solid in the Younger Michael scenes. Just horrible in the actual apocalypse episodes. But I still respect him for being so wonderful in Assassination of Gianni Versace, so I will give him another chance and temporarily write this off to being severely miscast. For now.

        • brontosaurian-av says:

          I felt like he was cast as a nod to the Lucifer of Liège. He wasn’t good at his role, but the whole renaissance pretty boy blond Lucifer thing.

        • ivosantiago-av says:

          Cody Fern was incredible, his acting here is high class. He totally sold that Michael is a evil child trapped in a man´s body. His scenes with Lange are masterclass of acting.

      • dummytextdummytext-av says:

        He was great in the Versace series. 

    • snowb4llinhell-av says:

      FUckfield yes to AHS in space! I mean you guys have even got Space Force now, so theres a hook!

    • charleslupula-av says:

      I find it very odd that you’d say Michael was unattractive, after seeing just about every woman I know talk about how hot he is, especially when his hair is long.

    • callmeshoebox-av says:

      I thought Cody was okay as the Anti. I find his face interesting. But Finn Whitrock would’ve been amaaaazing.

    • cato10128-av says:

      I … liked it, too. I agree and think it was mostly because we were spared the terribleness of the past couple of seasons, but also because there were some awesome plot bits that you could really hang your hat on.I had a couple of serious “WTF” moments, though:1. After years of seeing – and if the end of “Murder House” was anything to go by, actively encouraging – Michael to be all that he could (Satanically) be, to have Jessica Lange suddenly turn around and reject him? Nonsense. She knew exactly who he was and had planned accordingly – her whole life re-started based on him and his remarkable future.2. The running-over-the-Antichrist-in-the-street was unusual given the feeling in the story that he was watched over by his father specifically to protect him until he could claim his destiny.3. the line where he said something like “you should have known how the prophecies work – I was always going to win” rings hollow because if you follow Christian theology regarding the Antichrist (and it seems like they tried to overall) you know that actual prophecy says exactly the opposite: the Antichrist will only be defeated when Christ Himself returns.

    • dummytextdummytext-av says:

      Who got their head blown up? I was watching with other tabs of interest open, my default for this show.

      I really liked Coco Version 1.0, before the identity spell. She was fun. ‘I hope you like it HOT, bitch-’

  • refinedbean-av says:

    Where was “present” Mallory? When she goes back in time, does she replace herself? Why could she bring back Stevie Nick’s Biggest Fan and White Voodoo Enthusiast but not Madison?Why did Michael want the robot’s memory erased again? Why did he play dumb about the antichrist stuff after finding Outpost 3? Why didn’t everyone at the outpost know what was up? I thought only the rich and evil got in. If Michael died, are the tech dudes still doing evil things? Didn’t they want to end the world anyway?This whole season was fucking stupid. And that’s saying something for AHS. This was easily the worst season since Asylum (which was utterly fucking dumb).

    • gregsamsa-av says:

      She says in the voiceover she’s letting Madison stew for a while. The implication is that she can but—I guess because the audience is supposed to dislike Madison so much—she’s siding with the audience and letting Madison suffer just a bit longer in Hell.Because. I mean. No good deed goes unreturned.

      • gseller1979-av says:

        Yeah, I never thought I’d sympathize with Madison but she was pretty unequivocally on the side of good this season and everyone still treated her like she was the worst person alive.  

        • pootmcfruitcakesjr-av says:

          But she was like that after her time in Hell… that now has only just started.Hell is good for her, for a few years.

      • refinedbean-av says:

        I forgot she mentioned that little detail in the voice-over, good catch. At that point I was just shaking my head and snorting derisively.

      • callmeshoebox-av says:

        That was quite possibly the worst voiceover I’ve ever heard. It was like a school kid rushing through their book report.

      • dummytextdummytext-av says:

        I found that weird after all the work the show did to point out how Madison’s heart was slowly growing three times larger or whatever. 

        • gregsamsa-av says:

          Yeah—even in Coven, didn’t she become slightly redeemed before being killed? So it’s kinda like the writers expect the first impression of a character to be all the audience thinks about that character.Also, absolutely not enough love can be thrown at the Emma Roberts/Billy Porter buddy film that needs to be made. That alone is worth getting her out of hell.

    • gseller1979-av says:

      I thought the implication was that she was going to bring back Madison, she was just going to wait and make her sweat it out first.  

    • eliza-cat-av says:

      She took over her own body. 

      • refinedbean-av says:

        She also went back to a time before she was born, though. Does the spell work in different ways based on how far you go back?

        I know, I know…magic, blah blah blah.

      • bennevis-av says:

        Hey, that works! Thanks. I was bothered by this (time travel paradoxes drive me nuts).

    • ericmontreal22-av says:

      “Why did Michael want the robot’s memory erased again? Why did he play
      dumb about the antichrist stuff after finding Outpost 3? Why didn’t
      everyone at the outpost know what was up? I thought only the rich and
      evil got in.”

      Yes–didn’t most of them pledge their allegiance to Satan??  At that board meeting (which obviously only involved a handful of members) they all clearly knew what was up.

    • vw0-av says:

      Tech bros probably want to the world to blow up, but without an Antichrist, doubtful anyone would back their plan up.

    • dippylippy-av says:

      Mallory didn’t physically return to the past. Her body dies in the apocalyptic future she left. She takes over her own body in the pre-apocalypse timeline.She bought Misty back because she knew how much it would mean to Cordelia. She says in a voiceover she is going to bring Madison back, but is letting her stew awhile. Madison is not the good Madison she becomes, and the Murder House endings never happen either, in this timeline.The people at Outpost 3 were there via the Coven, Michael’s and the Cooperative’s own plans to get one over the other. The Co-operative’s Plan B antichrist birth of Timothy and Emily, Dinah and Killbot Mead via Michael, and all the rest a ruse to hide Mallory until her powers “woke”.Killbot Mead had her memory wiped because Michael didn’t want anything to happen to her. If people found out they would have likely destroyed her. Michael is just playing with the Outpost. He came to kill them all, probably realised the Plan B and wanted to weed out Timothy and Emily. Only Dinah knew who he was.In the timeline sans Michael the tech geeks are still there obvs waiting on the Antichrist to turn up. They probably got Timothy and Emily to meet and give birth to the new Antichrist.

    • darionscott15-av says:

      “Where was “present” Mallory? When she goes back in time, does she replace herself?”I wondered about this too. I would suppose she couldn’t go BACK to a parallel universe that no longer exists (See back to the future circa 1985). It would make sense that she would wake to whatever she was in 2015.

    • hillswithouteyes-av says:

      The “worst season since Asylum.” Opinion automatically discounted. 

    • ivosantiago-av says:

      All your questions are answered in the episode, so watch it again and maybe you will them. And everybody knows that Asylum is masterpiece and the best and most iconic season of the show.

    • rmwarnick-av says:

      Exactly.  It wasn’t explained why getting rid of Michael stopped the Apocalypse.  He didn’t control the nuclear warheads, at least not directly.

    • teddyray-av says:

      To each his own…I enjoyed this season and Asylum is my favorite season of AHS.

    • disquslupr34wzlf--disqus-av says:

      I agree with literally everything you said except “Asylum,” which remains my favorite season.

    • dummytextdummytext-av says:

      wow…that’s a spicy take. most people consider ‘Asylum’ the height of the series, and I tend to agree.

  • daddddd-av says:

    Turning Kathy Bates into a terminator robot served absolutely no purpose lmao. Someone pitched it in the room and Ryan went “yeah sure she’s a killbot now”

    • gregsamsa-av says:

      Granted, the reveal would’ve been much more amusing in the early episode where she shot Sarah Paulson with a gun. If she’d thrown the gun down and turned her arm into a machine gun THAT early in the season, it would’ve been Asylum-worthy WTFuckage.

    • gseller1979-av says:

      Now that you mention it, that did have essentially zero payoff after the fun reveal in the early episodes.  AHS tends to throw out so many plots that you don’t even notice when half of them get no real resolution.  (What WAS up with those damn aliens in Asylum?) 

      • seotinwdolrtes-av says:

        Haha I didn’t even remember that there were aliens in Asylum, you’re so right.

      • eliza-cat-av says:

        They were a counterpart for the angels. Kit and his wives were the alien Joseph and Mary’s, making his kids alien jesii.

      • ericmontreal22-av says:

        And Asylum was one of the seasons where things were relatively tied up.  Nearly every season has a ton of little things that obviously Falchuk/Murphy and crew can’t resist the idea of, but then simply drop.

      • yipesstripes123-av says:

        This is the big problem I have with the series. Instead of focusing on strengthening a couple of interesting plots, they try to do too much in one series. Juggling one or two vases can be impressive if pulled off well, but try juggling three or four more and you’ll just end up having to dig porcelain out of your face.

  • waaaaaaaaaah-av says:

    The score playing while Mallory was running over Michael was very Terminator. So, we got references to 2001, Alien, Terminator, and it feels like there’s another A.I. reference that I’m forgetting. It’s a shame they didn’t get around to working in a Blade Runner reference (I know, technically Replicants are genetically modified humans, not robots but still…)

    What was with the extended Constance scene? Did that actually happen in the original timeline and Constance just left it out? Or did Mallory call her up and tell her that her grandson’s the Anti-Christ?

    Timothy and Emily were satanic plants Were they? Maybe I’m overthinking it, but I just assumed that being in close proximity to the Anti-Christ in an alternate timeline made them some kind anomaly on par with a ghost getting a human pregnant. But it’s silly to try and apply logic to American Horror Story. 

    South Park spoilers:

    Weird that both South Park and American Horror Story ended with the big bad being kicked down the road for a few more years.

    • gregsamsa-av says:

      I assume they were plants–the reason their DNA was played up in the first episodes was because even Satan knew Michael was iffy, and wanted back-ups.

      • eliza-cat-av says:

        That’s probably why when Tim took a shower in the first episode, the #s 666 appeared on the mirror.

        • ericmontreal22-av says:

          No. They did that because it was spooky (didn’t we also hear a girl’s voice?) And then quickly forgotten, they hoped.

          Oh and what about Rubberman–anyone gonna try to justify that?

          • eliza-cat-av says:

            I’m…pretty sure they did it because of this ending. Which was already written by the time they started filming.

    • eliza-cat-av says:

      Constance and Mallory exchanged a look. I think they must’ve had a chat with each other and planned this. Maybe there’s a deleted scene? I know there’s a deleted scene with Marie and Coco.

  • gregsamsa-av says:

    The show is just a parody of itself, and was kinda fun this season. I kinda liked the way Constance refused to take Michael to the house—which echoed the scene in Murder House where she desperately wanted Addy to be dragged from the street to the house. Though of course if she’d allowed Michael to get trapped in Murder House, maybe the antichrist Second Coming would’ve taken a bit longer.Also, I liked the point of the show: it’s not gonna be over, even when it is. Michael came off as Donald Trump, to me–they referenced his childishness, his inability to lead, his distant and disinterested father; the women knew him for what he was, and fought him, and saved the day… but it was clear there will always be another Trump. Which is true: the most awful thing about the rise of Trump, to me, is knowing a more competent politician now sees what is possible, and will be much more skilled at his or her work.

  • rjmacready18-av says:

    Show had potential- Michael was great. The Witches killed it. Horrible finale. Was there anyone not rooting for Michael? Antichrist or not he was the only interesting thing about this show. They should have stayed away from witches and warlocks this season. Could have been great. Finale sucked. 

  • gseller1979-av says:

    Well, that was a whole bunch of cool imagery that didn’t make a lot of sense in terms of tying up characters or plots in a satisfying way.  They brought the divine Bassett back for that?  Super-pretty, super-boring young couple (I refuse to learn their names) are Plan B for the Apocalypse? Still, I mostly really enjoyed this disjointed, batshit crazy season after we got past the early slog in the bunker.  It was nonsense but with a certain kind of energy and flair the show has been lacking.  My only real complaint is Michael.  The character just turned into a nothing of a threat and I genuinely can’t tell if it was bad acting, bad writing, or both but there was nothing compelling about him.  The Anti-Christ is such a whiner.  

    • jaysmithart-av says:

      “Well, that was a whole bunch of cool imagery that didn’t make a lot of sense in terms of tying up characters or plots in a satisfying way.”Yep, sounds like a typical AHS season. In all seriousness, I’m afraid that the writing staff is losing their sense of reality. I think they thought we cared about the attractive young people, or believed that Michael was menacing, or found the episodes in the bunker to be compelling, or that the Mutt and Jeff scenes were amusing… or worse, clever. They can do camp. They can do spectacle. But they’ve been increasingly lacking in the ability to do suspense, shock, or horror lately.And I’m going to go ahead and disagree with you about Angela Basset’s role tonight. It wasn’t much of an appearance that’s true, but damn if it wasn’t surprising and a useful way for Cordelia to get back at Dinah. It served the plot and the time away from the show for most of the season allows Angela Basset to put her focus in other productions that will utilize her talents better.

      • groundcontroltouncletom-av says:

        Did Dinah lose her magic powers when she got famous? Why would she let the magicless evil secretary boss her around in the bunker?

    • callmeshoebox-av says:

      I like that the voodoo queen who literally sacrificed babies to Papa Legba wasn’t considered as evil as the other voodoo queen who refused to sacrifice babies to Papa Legba. “I’m not as evil as you. Now here’s a machete to the throat!”

      • scler-av says:

        I think when Miss Dinah switched her allegiance to the (white) Devil, Papa L got royally pissed off. “Corrupt” in this context means, “you threw me over for a Christian pennyante goat man? Hell naw.”

  • disqusdrew-av says:

    I liked the finale better than I thought I would. It felt fitting and tied everything together pretty well (by AHS standards at least).As for the season overall, I’d give it a B-. The premise was good and we got a few good episodes and plot points, but it definitely suffered from a slow start and waaaaaay too much backstory detail in the middle episodes. I’d rank this season somewhere in the middle of all the AHS seasons. At the very least, it redeemed Coven to a degree which I’m happy about. I always thought Coven was such a great idea but they badly botched it.

    • gseller1979-av says:

      I like that they picked up the one interesting idea from the end of Coven – how Cordelia would be a different kind of Supreme than her mother – and really tried to explore it here.  Coven got so lost and confused by the end.  

  • davenite-av says:

    This was, without a trace of a doubt, the worst season of AHS, maily because it wasted so much potential and ultimately delivered a convoluted, ridiculous, nonsensical story that was less about the end of the world and more about how the so called mythology of this show makes no sense whatsoever.What a waste of such a great cast. The show has oficially jumped the shark. Time for it to go the nuclear holocaust way.

  • jaysmithart-av says:

    So after last week’s episode, I was ready to call Apocalypse the worst season in AHS history. I felt sure that they were going to try to stretch this narrative into a 2-season long arc, which seemed inexcusable and contrived. At this point, the series has mostly shed any right to call itself an anthology, but the idea of extending so unworthy a plot between two separate seasons was going to be the final nail in the coffin. But I can admit when I’m wrong, and leave it to Ryan Murphy, Brad Falchuk, and the AHS writers to cram the final showdown between the Anti-Christ and a coven of witches into one episode of let down (while still leaving plenty of time for backstory, sidestory, and filler) instead of the 3-episode mega-battle for the sake of humanity that it ought to have been. And with this way-too-quick-and-way-too-easy conclusion comes relief and reflection.This was not the worst season, there’s too many things for the diehard AHS fan in me to like about it, but make no mistake it is a bad season. A lot of it feels like a valentine to the series as a whole with the return of fan-favorite actresses and several happy resolutions for beloved characters. The crowning achievement for this season is the bolstering of Coven. For while in season 3, the witches were basically reduced to bitchy stereotypes (quarreling over men, backstabbing each other, generally acting spiteful, etc.), here we actually saw the coven operate as a unit, offer support and guidance in personal development for others, and stand up for something greater than themselves. The epitome of this fortification was the growth of Madison Montgomery who went form “The Bitch” to an actual, fully-developed character (Taissa Farmiga’s Zoe sadly remains useless and boring).That was all pretty enjoyable to see. But while AHS:Coven Part II was a fun experience, the other side of this coin is Apocalypse and that was a chore to sit through. The idea of the Anti-Christ being a lost child needing guidance is unoriginal at this point, and Michael Langdon (and his angst) was NEVER compelling on his own. But the real problem with this season is that the story was weak. Lose the fanservice and cast from previous seasons of AHS and Apocalypse CANNOT stand on its own merit. I’m going to compare this with another Ryan Murphy production… The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story. Both plots (at least, as handled by Mr. Murphy) are too brief and too straightforward to sustain a linear plot structuring. To jazz up Crime Story, the narrative is told (mostly) through reverse-chronological order, and in doing so motivations are expounded upon as more and more of Cunanan’s life is revealed to the audience.Likewise, all of the suspense and surprise of this season is delivered at the end of episode 3 and the start of episode 4 when the witch plot is revealed. Had this been told chronologically it wouldn’t have worked because we’d know who Mallory and Coco were and the three episodes in the bunker would’ve felt like even more of a drag than they did.Moreover, a time-travel undo is an eye-rollingly uninspired ending. The “it was all a dream” trope and all of its brethren only work if you enjoyed the ride. As it stands, I was too bored by the extended flashbacks and plodding plot to be entertained most of the time. Mutt and Jeff were the nadir of this season, we spent WAY too long with these unenjoyable characters. Contrariwise, the highlight of the season Return to Murder House, is undone by time travel; it’s a safe bet that Constance DOES go commit suicide in the house and Ben and Vivian likely have nothing to fight about with Michael never coming over, but now Moira is STILL trapped and Tate and Violet are STILL back where they were.This season escapes the title of worst season of AHS, that’s still Hotel. Hotel’s dead-slow plot progression is worse than Apocalypse’s meandering one. Hotel insulted previous seasons of AHS (killing Queenie extemporaneously, bringing in Dr. Charles Montgomery for no reason, etc.) while Apocalypse pays honor and offers resolution to previous seasons. Hotel had an impressive cast of actors and (with the exception of maybe 3) did nothing with them, but Apocalypse has a tight core cast with driven and motivated characters and it only brings on guest actors (Jessica Lange, Jamie Brewer, Angela Basset) when their characters’ presence is most surprising and beneficial to the story. 

  • zzyzazazz-av says:

    I really enjoyed this season, but that ending was not satisfying. I thought for sure Constance was going to bring him into the house, trapping him there forever. But I guess instead he’s going to come back later and probably just repeat all of this. 

  • mattthecatania-av says:

    Why couldn’t The Antichrist regenerate from vehicular homicide. Surely they’d need some kind of depowering, binding, or exiling spell to make that stick. I’m supremely disappointed they didn’t find an ingenious way to make Coco’s powers pivotal to his defeat.

    • eliza-cat-av says:

      He didn’t have his full powers yet, remember? He doesn’t get those until the ceremony with Lavey.  myrtle said the spell was to take them to when he’d be easiest to kill. 

      • mattthecatania-av says:

        But by that point he’d already grown overnight, showing his metabolism was abnormal. So why wouldn’t he already have a healing factor by then? After Mallory killed him, he didn’t need to do any spells to come back to life. He just did automatically. Wasn’t he already destroying souls by this point?

    • hamwinks-av says:

      When her powers were revealed I figured she could detect the poison in the apples like she could detect calories, and then work with mallory to heal themselves if they had been exposed to it. My imagination had a killer script. 

    • dummytextdummytext-av says:

      yeah, kind of a bummer Coco never met her full potential.

  • somerandomguyontheinternetiscreepy-av says:

    “Satan has one son, but my sisters are legion, motherfucker.”As far as pre-suicide one-liners go, that one’s definitely near the top.

  • cschu-av says:

    If they have some before the new antichrist becomes super powerful, then why not just destroy Mutt and Jeff? They were the ones that started everything anyway.

  • eliza-cat-av says:

    A lot of people in outpost were killed before Emily and Timothy arrived. We SAW this happen with a couple of people. I’m pretty sure she didn’t explain to Queenie about the cortez simply so they’d be able to say that Queenie went anyway, and the timeline hotel set up, which included being in the year 2024 which indicates that Hotel’s finale takes place in THIS episode’s timeline, is still preserved.

  • dannyjmac-av says:

    Besides Sarah Paulson and Jessica Lange, of course, the MVP’s of the season were obviously Frances Conroy and Emma Roberts.

  • duskaka-av says:

    I LOVED IT!

  • Rick_Wrinklebottom-av says:

    I’m pretty sure the reason those kids became the parents of the next anti-christ is because they were supposed to be dead in the original timeline. Follow me here, IIRC, the rationale for Michael’s being the anti-christ had something to do with his being an unnatural conception (between a ghost and a human), so if two people who were never supposed to live and had a child in reality still met and had a child in a magic-altered timeline, wouldn’t that also be an unnatural conception? They were never supposed to have a child, so the conception of a child by them would have left an empty sould ripe to be occupied by the anti-christ…or something like that…Anyway, middling season with some good points, but way too slow of a start-off with early episodes that dragged, later episodes that felt rush, and perhaps the two worst characters in AHS history with Mutt & Jeff (and those haircuts). Also, they probably should’ve called it “Coven 2: Apocalypse”, because this season really seemed like more of a sequel season to Coven than a fully autonomous entry in the series.

    • groundcontroltouncletom-av says:

      Doesn’t that mean that all the other billions of people who died can make anti-Christ’s too?

  • ericmontreal22-av says:

    OK so this means the ghosts from Murder House never got their happy endings in Ep 6 right? Because Madison would never have visited, etc, etc?

    Anyway I thought…  It was meh, though better than I expected from the back half of this season.  The first half of the episode ended in typical (recent) AHS finale style with suddenly a shitload of characters who had survived till now being quickly killed off (not quite as deus ex machina-style as Freakshow though).  Nearly all of us saw the time travel thing coming last week, so that wasn’t a surprise (I did find myself trying to remember though why Michael even had decided an apocalypse was a good idea in the first place–what was he gonna do next?)  If in season 1 we learned the antichrist comes about from the undead having sex with the living, or something, how does that explain the new antichrist?  Ah, who cares…

    • on-2-av says:

      HAlf the ghosts…The teenage mass shooter is not forgiven.But the Langdons don’t have a rift in the first place to reconcile because that was caused by the worst therapist ever taking on the AntiChrist as a patient after he “moved in” to Murder House.

      • ericmontreal22-av says:

        I thought Tate was forgiven and seen kissing whatshername in the window at the end of that episode?

        Fair point although I assumed Ben shrinking Michael could have happened before he killed the priest or something–the timelines aren’t too clear and he still had short hair and liked to play kids games…

    • deejay27-av says:

      I wouldn’t bet on it. The Coven shows little interest in the outside world and they probably forgot about it. But without the evil presence in the house, I think a lot of the characters would eventually start to live happier after-lives when they aren’t feeling the itch to tear into one another for no reason.

    • bennevis-av says:

      I never understand what those in favor of apocalypse think they’re going to get out of it.

      • disquslupr34wzlf--disqus-av says:

        No more Starbucks. I feel like they were Mutt and Jeff’s entire inspiration.

      • groundcontroltouncletom-av says:

        I understand unhappy, depressed people favoring it just to punish those who wronged them. Maybe the dumb rich people think Satan will keep them on as a high up minion?

    • disquslupr34wzlf--disqus-av says:

      Tate didn’t deserve it, so I’m pretty cool with that.

  • gnatkingcole-av says:

    but there is no way Emily, protestor against child labor, would go on even an apology date with a dude who said with no trace of irony he was .07% Brazilian.Elizabeth Warren voters would like a word

  • illestchillxoxo-av says:

    tell the whorestory of America…..i ain’t running, ewe know exactly where to find !#EyeNo

  • tanyaleigh-av says:

    I didn’t get to see it yet can someone just tell me who was Rubberman?

  • dudilla-av says:

    The premise of this season had great promise…but man, the execution was…umm…clumsy. After the debacles that were Hotel and Roanoke, the ship seemed to be back on course with Cult. This was quite a let down because too many episodes meandered aimlessly without pushing the plot forward, making the finale a rushed coke binge. I guess that is what happens when you are running short on thematic ideas and are burnt out on churning out quality storytelling. This franchise needs to call it a day after next season before it fully devolves into self-parody.

  • StoneMustard-av says:

    There’s absolutely nowhere for this series to go from here, and they really should just pull the plug.

  • zedx79-av says:

    The first few episodes were a bit claustrophobic in that small set they were in. Then it got good right before the flashbacks and spent way too much time in the past. The ending was so predictable…of course Billie Lourd was going to go back in time and kill him and of course Satan would try for another spawn. Just odd that she now stayed in the past. What about the other her in that timeline? Did she kill her off? Why did the other outposts fall? What is the world like outside the outposts? That’s more scary than the anti-christ blowing the beautiful Emma Roberts head up. Disappointing ending for me.  Too many questions left unanswered.  I guess there will be another apocalypse sometime in the future when that new baby becomes a young adult.

    • dianebk-av says:

      Mallory went back into her own body.It’s easy to figure out why the other outposts fell – all those conceited, entitled egos with no real survival skills beyond what their wealth and power had always provided them, coming smack up against a total loss of status and forced to live strict, regimented lives in close quarters, underground, trapped indefinitely. I imagine some of the outposts fell pretty quickly to anarchy, killing each other off. Some probably starved. Some were over-run by survivors of the bombs. People might have abandoned ship and fled outside, utterly unprepared and doomed.And we did see life outside the outposts. We specifically saw Coco’s boyfriend as he searched the radioactive wastelands for her outpost. 

  • stolenturtle-av says:

    For me, this season had a strong start, and a weak finish. The cast on this series makes it impossible for me to stop watching, no matter how many times I swear it off, but then I almost always end up disappointed by the end of the season. It was nice to see the Murder House gang again, though. That’s still my favorite season. I hope Cody Fern is going to be back next season in a new role. He was great, and fun to look at.

    • dummytextdummytext-av says:

      He really is a beautiful man.

      And my reaction to this show from the start has always been ‘wow, this is nonsensical, campy trash…I can’t stop watching!’

  • deejay27-av says:

    I have to hand it to them, they pulled off a good ending. I was worried it was going to be something they just go back in time and fix. Once again a magical plot hole that they use at the last minute. When you get down to it neither side was really one to root for. The Witches want to maintain an shadow oligarchy where they do nothing to help the common person but live in luxury with servants and enough budget for slow walking in a line, a mansion, servants, and extensive wardrobe with many capes. Michael was a lost and lonely kid, but wanted to create a new more aggressive world but has no qualms about killing millions in the process. It is funny that the son of the devil showed more emotional depth than the entire Coven. It was for a murderous occultist and absent father figure, but the Witches were more self indulgent and their talk about loosing their sisters rings false when we know how much they back-stab each other for personal gain and spite. I did like that the Computer tech whom I won’t bother looking up the name got revenge in the end. You have to admit it was perfect timing and unexpected. It wasn’t a great ending, but it was a lot better than I would have expected.

    • hillswithouteyes-av says:

      A “shadow oligarchy?” What are you smoking? The whole point of the season was the witches attempting to save humanity from the antichrist. They’re an extremely tiny minority looking out for themselves with big, altruistic aspirations. 

      • deejay27-av says:

        Smoking’s not cool man, your obviously leftover from last year.Altruistic intentions, what you are vaping? So far they have shown zero interest in saving anyone but their own. They like doing the slow walk in capes, have funny hair styles, and say funny things. But they are self centered, have deadly tempers, and no qualms about killing anyone that stands in their way. That’s not even touching on how many of their own they off whenever it suits them or how they produced worse monsters way worse than Michael. Heck Nan comes across as the funny racist grandparent everyone gets embarrassed by, she just happened to be a 60’s burnout so she hated men.Though good point, oligarchy would indicate an involvement in society, more of a shadow aristocracy.

  • hutch1197-av says:

    My favorite “little” moment from this episode was hearing the kind, virtuous Mallory assert in her closing narrative that Madison can stay in hell for a little while longer. The shade. THE SHADE!!!!

  • gesundheitall-av says:

    I have mixed feelings. Unlike a lot of people, I loved the early Outpost episodes. Then I loved the next few flashback episodes, and then really lost my interest over the last 2-3 before this finale. I’m disappointed that the ending means we may see Madison or Queenie again (I don’t think the characters are poorly drawn in theory, actually, I just don’t think the actresses are good.)Was delighted to see Nan and Marie Laveau again, though! The last two seasons have really suffered for the lack of Bassett. That said, Dinah was barely a part of the story. It should have been a more triumphant moment, but we barely knew a thing about her and for their all of a sudden to be some big rivalry and a “gotcha!” moment… well, it should’ve been built up more so the payoff was more than the excitement of a cameo appearance. Glad they didn’t forget Billy Eichner’s character was still skulking around the outpost. (But they did forget to tell us who Rubberman was in Outpost context.)The very end wasn’t as chilling as they meant it to be. Even if demon spawns and apocalypses are inevitable, Mallory can just fix it every few years now that she knows how to.

    • tanyaleigh-av says:

      I also loved loved loved the first 3 episodes. The show should have continued on at the outpost.

      • gesundheitall-av says:

        They probably should’ve divvied it up more — started the flashbacks sooner with always using the Outpost as a framing device. To just drop it completely for, what, 5-6 episodes? Really thwarted momentum.

    • ivosantiago-av says:

      Emma Roberts and Gaby Sidibe are not good actresses? The things that one can read here are comedy gold. 

      • gesundheitall-av says:

        I’m glad I could amuse you! I don’t think they’re good. I think they’ve improved, but still just aren’t very good.

        • dianebk-av says:

          Considering she was nominated for an Academy Award – and nominations are made by the peers of the nominees – I think other actors find Gaby Sidibe to be a very good actor. She also won an Independent Spirit Award for Best Female lead (for Precious), so there’s that, as well.

          • gesundheitall-av says:

            She was VERY good in Precious. That was the right role for her. I was really excited to see her in other things after that and was quite disappointed.Plenty of people who don’t deserve Oscars have been nominated or won them, as you certainly know. Getting lauds for one role doesn’t make “this person is good at all acting!” some sort of empirical fact. Doesn’t make my opinion wrong, it just makes it my opinion.

          • dummytextdummytext-av says:

            *cough*CRASH*cough*

    • dummytextdummytext-av says:

      it still amazes me that Emma Roberts is the end result of what swam out of Eric Roberts’ balls.

  • breezy2u-av says:

    I was really disappointed. The episode was so boring and predictable. I had really hoped that there would be a big twist where Michael turned out to be something other then the devil and Mallory more than just a good witch. Also, where does Mallory come from if her presence in the house is only due to time travel? And if Michael can just snap his fingers and kill someone, why not kill all of them at once? And why exactly does the antichrist want to destroy the world? I can see taking it over but why kill all the folks he wants to rule over and why make the world uninhabitable? Sorry, but it just didn’t do it for me. Murder House was the only good season as far as I’m concerned because it was the only season that was really scary.

  • babylonsister-av says:

    One thing they brought in then never addressed was how Madison is also a Montgomery. Also they could have done so much more with tying Hotel Cortez to Murder House as portal/ gateways to hell. I thought that was going to be important but the 2nd antichrist child’s house got the crow and heat treatment too. I think I heard they had 2 separate writing rooms for this season. If so, that didn’t work. They frankensteined that crap together and missed so many opportunities to make it truly interesting. The many fan theories that seemed to work so well were way more entertaining than what actually ended up happening. This was basic, unnecessary, rushed, and shamelessly edited. Originally before the finale I was hoping there was going to be a 2nd part to the season to really let things get exciting and to tie it all in and up in a satisfying way, but now I just want this season to die and go away. This was worse than Roanoke.
    Where was the gore?! No suspense!!!

  • babylonsister-av says:

    And seriously who was rubber man, and what was that picture of Michael standing in the black water with burned up clothes? Is the next season going to be an alternate timeline? Were there 2 writing rooms because they were writing 2 completely different series of events? 

  • benglover-av says:

    “Nan is the best. That is all.”Agreed.Also, at least we got to end the season with one last Bate’s smile. Even as pure evil, her smiling face can still warm my heart.

  • hillswithouteyes-av says:

    I think a lot of fans understand the Murphy AHS formula by now. Most seasons play out like a memorable first romantic relationship (with the possible exception of Murder House and maybe Asylum, sans the aliens). They start off strong but the honeymoon phase ends too soon, leaving things disjointed. Finally, everything ends with a lot of questions and mixed feelings. I would say that Apocalypse followed this cliched formatting, except I really only disliked the two episodes prior to the finale (i.e. mostly episode #8, wtf was that?!). I liked the Outpost episodes and I loved the first few flashback episodes, especially 4-6. I knew I missed Coven a lot, and these episodes confirmed it. This show sorely misses Jessica Lange, but this season also proved that even other old-timers like Lily Rabe, Angela Bassett, and Taissa Farmiga are necessary for an AHS season to feel like an AHS season. I haven’t liked most of the people that have joined post-Cult, but almost all of those actors’ characters were more bearable this year. (I think I just really hated Cult.) As for summing up this finale, I want to say I liked it. However, it’s sort of boring that now the same thing is just going to happen all over again with the new antichrist. Suddenly, my calls for a Coven spinoff are dashed because the threat would be exactly the same. Also, by recycling the same stakes, it just feels like a) the writers are running out of ideas, and b) this whole season didn’t mean that much because shit is gonna go down ‘nyway later down the line. I’m ok with Apocalypse being a season written for Coven fanatics. Trust me, I’m one of them. However, I really can’t see the show going anywhere meaningful from here now that we know that the only way to get people excited is to bring back fan favorite characters and/or plotlines. I have mixed feelings on antichrist #2. I wish this episode ended with the coven winning followed by a Coven spinoff. But like I said, hopes for that are now dashed. Also, if the antichrist thing is happening AGAIN, wouldn’t another season set in the future have to deal with the apocalypse anyway? This must mean next season will have to be a period piece or set in the very distant future? I vote for another period piece. I think AHS is best when it focuses on American history because it can be *pretty damn dark.* For example, the Civil War (e.g. slavery). Japanese internment camps. The Great Depression and prohibition. The Wild West (e.g. cowboys, the Gold Rush!?). Imagine Lily Rabe as a cowgirl. 

    • jaysmithart-av says:

      “However, I really can’t see the show going anywhere meaningful from here now that we know that the only way to get people excited is to bring back fan favorite characters and/or plotlines.”You hit the nail on the head. I think what makes AHS special as a show is its anthology format; the idea of a stable of actors coming back each season with new characters in a new setting with new motivations is really compelling. But the staff needs to bring in new ideas because too much is being repeated or getting boring.As for future plotlines, I think the period seasons are usually the most enjoyable. I’d personally like to see a season that explores Lovecraftian horror; he’s an American author with a very distinctive style, aesthetic, and brand of terror. Set in the twenties at a coastal town with a lighthouse, you could explore prejudice, old-world anxiety, cosmic horror, etc. If you set it in the 1940s, you could also tackle the Japanese internment, xenophobia, and nationalism too.Although now that you mention it, I’d like to see AHS handle a whole season in the 1800s or any time besides the 20th/21st century. It’d be interesting.

  • butterbattlepacifist-av says:

    Yeah yeah my favorite “What the dumbfuck? Really?” show did it again! I love this stupid-ass show, and this season was delightful. Here’s hoping next season’s going to be set in the future. Either American Horror Story: Dystopia, or American Horror Story: …space…monsters…on a spaceship.

  • jkayer09-av says:

    I want my 8.5 hours back…

  • twopmarrival-av says:

    The Bowl Cut Boys inhaling coke was supposed to be Murphy and Falchuk writing this series right?

  • twopmarrival-av says:

    Roanoke is the best season of AHS. Don’t @ me.

  • bromona-quimby-av says:

    Madison? Whatever. We’ll spring her from hell again eventually. 

  • Stiffbickies-av says:

    It didn’t completely stink, this season. Reminded me of Son of Rosemary, which was snarky satire, and which enraged all the fans of the original book.

  • stephdeferie-av says:

    i found this whole season incredibly confusing. i really couldn’t follow the plot with all that jumping around in time.  🙁

  • haydensmom-av says:

    No mention of Jessica Lange’s great final scenes with Michael? Damn, that woman can act. She had me totally convinced she was the heartbroken grandmother of the Antichrist, Gina ally realizing a scorpion is always going to be a scorpion. It’s in his nature.

  • aldalin-av says:

    AHS can be a mixed bag, usually. Mistakes were made but overall this might be my favourite season. I would kill to have an entire season of Madison and Behold pretending to be a married couple and buying haunted houses.

    Things I loved the most about this episode:
    * Myrtle witch-walking into DoucheBro, Inc HQ and the eternal mystery of her hair
    * Kathy Bates’s Ash from Alien/HAL references
    * Maddison picking up the gunarm and Al Capone-ing Michael
    * Mallory and Constance’s silent communication
    * Marie Laveau showing up at the last second.
    * Nan.
    Things I didn’t like about this episode:
    * The ending with the “perfect couple” birthing another Anti-Christ. It took some fucked up shit to make the first one. I figured they were going to make a new Jesus.
    * Marie Laveau going out so weakly. Overall, there was a lot to like about this season. I wonder if they will do a similar season wrapping up the connections between the even numbered seasons.

    • jaysmithart-av says:

      Let’s hope not. There is such a thing as finality and any additions just come off as excessive, unnecessary, and detracting. Asylum completely wrapped up all its lose ends, and while I found Freakshow’s finale to be too “and they all lived happily ever after,” it also wrapped up everyone’s story. And there really is nothing else to say about Roanoke, everyone’s dead. This is supposed to be an anthology, I wish they’d remember that.

    • disquslupr34wzlf--disqus-av says:

      * The ending with the “perfect couple” birthing another Anti-Christ. It took some fucked up shit to make the first one. I figured they were going to make a new Jesus.Well now I’m laughing, imagining that Murphy and co. think miscegenation is just as fucked as a mass-murdering teen ghost raping (by deception) a nice middle-aged lady.

    • dummytextdummytext-av says:

      part of me really likes how they built a bigger universe across seasons with this season, but a part of me also hopes they go back to their roots now.

      despite the title, this show has never been horror. it’s a kitschy, campy melodrama with lots of pure gothic insanity. American Camp Story is more fitting of a title.

  • bigt90-av says:

    Boy I hated this finale, more then half a season of basically cameo appearances from previous season’s characters, and an, at the end of the day, absolutely unnecessary and unnecessarily long backstory for an anti-christ that was pretty damn quickly replaced with a new attempt.
    Entertaining at times, but entirely disappointing. I wanted an actual story about, during, or after the apocalypse, episode two ended with the cliff hanger that led into the final battle, which lasted 15 minutes. We heard of other overrun outposts and mutated cannibalistic humans, and got none of that.

  • ironduke413-av says:

    So “Return to Murder House” never happened now.  Tate doesn’t get his happy ending with Violet.

  • james41181-av says:

    Worst season of the series. Seen em all hands down least favorite. The title is American horror story, only thing scary about this season was bad writing n bad acting. Time to find a new show, they’ve run their course.

  • dickpunchbuddha-av says:

    Nan IS the best. I wish this show used Jamie Brewer more.

  • chrissyny66-av says:

    “My hair is an eternal mystery” – amazing line!Biggest surprise (personally) is I felt bad when Michael, dying, says he’s scared. I felt so bad for him!

    • callmeshoebox-av says:

      I loved Myrtle’s comment about how soft Michael’s hair was. “Golden gossamer” or something like that.

  • simplecaveman-av says:

    “a dude who said with no trace of irony he was .07% Brazilian.”Just finished watching this episode and it’s extremely clear that’s he’s joking. He’s flirting and very clearly joking around – it’s clear in the hesitant, smiling way he says .07%. 

  • disquslupr34wzlf--disqus-av says:

    Am I wrong or was Marie Leveau given the “Elena in Felicity” treatment and just left to rot once everything was “fixed?” I guess Blankface Premie Supreme wouldn’t know to save her, but then she kind of shouldn’t have known to save Nan and Misty either…? Unless Cordelia only talked about those two…

    • dianebk-av says:

      Nan didn’t want or need saving. She loved serving Papa Legba. He let her “have fun”.

      • disquslupr34wzlf--disqus-av says:

        Beside the point. Blankface went and got her anyway, even if just for a visit. Meanwhile, Laveau is still down there, miserable.

  • theclassic-av says:

    I really liked it save for the O Henry ending which I thought was a bit dumb, not the general idea that the devil will always try to ring about the apocalypse etc but well I just think it would have been better if it was hinted rather than explicitly shown.

    But they did a good job of tying all the threads together in that final episode and peppered it with a smattering of fan wank moments like Angela Basset returning, Landon’s Gran not taking him into the house thus mirroring her with her daughter from the first season and so on.I just wish they would treat Madison better, yes she is THEE bitch but her character redeemed herself several times this season (even fucking sacrificing herself) yet the just leave her to chill in hell.

  • groundcontroltouncletom-av says:

    Why would Langdon want to keep two Devil Baby Parents in reserve? And if he did, why would he have them killed before they made a Devil Baby in the First timeline?

  • jclinvic-av says:

    Nan & Myrtle need their own season – or maybe even series – where at least once Jessica Lang shows up to perform the Name Game.

  • deejay27-av says:

    I didn’t realize it before, Myrtle is a rip off of the grandmother from Charmed. She was a 60’s burnout that aided the sisters from beyond the grave. She wanted to keep men out of the bloodline and was very cold to her grandson at first. Citing that Halliwell’s always had girls.She’s just the version that didn’t stop using acid.

  • verrygrosswithstankair-av says:

    Biggest missed opportunity: “666 calories” as Coco stares at Michael eat that heart.

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