Jerry Seinfeld offers different version of events in Jimmy Fallon exposé
Rolling Stone's report initially detailed an "uncomfortable moment" between Fallon and a staffer during a taping with Seinfeld
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At this point, so many daily television show hosts have been accused of fostering a toxic workplace dynamic that certain, let’s call them “conventions” of the genre have begun to arise. First, there’s the obvious non-apology, popularized by Ellen DeGeneres and James Corden and most recently utilized by Jimmy Fallon in response to a Rolling Stone report published last week. In the report, 16 current and former staffers alleged that The Tonight Show was a horrible, no good, very bad place to work.
Now, Jerry Seinfeld is invoking a second essential trope: the “actually, that’s not the truth, Ellen,” coined, of course, by Dakota Johnson in response to the host’s suggestion that she wasn’t invited to Johnson’s birthday party. This time, however, Seinfeld is taking a moment to defend the host in question, and the proverbial Ellen of it all is Rolling Stone.
“This is so stupid,” Seinfeld said in a statement published in response to the report by both Rolling Stone and Variety. Seinfeld was named in the initial exposé in relation to an “uncomfortable moment” in which Fallon allegedly berated a staffer in charge of cue cards for the evening, to whom Seinfeld reportedly asked Fallon to apologize. “It was one of the strangest moments ever and so many people were there, so it’s kind of hard to forget,” said Rolling Stone’s source.
Seinfeld has a different version of events. “I remember this moment quite well,” he wrote. “I teased Jimmy about a flub, and we all had a fun laugh about how rarely Jimmy is thrown off. It was not uncomfortable at all. Jimmy and I still occasionally recall it and laugh. Idiotic twisting of events.”
The Tonight Show is currently on hiatus due to the writer and actor strikes, so it is not yet clear how this story may affect Fallon’s tenure moving forward.
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I own the Criterion of Akira Kurosawa’s Tonight Show Cue Card Guy. Toshiro Mifune’s amazing in the title role.
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Two powerful people having a laugh at an underling’s expense is never awkward for the powerful and the underling hasn’t earned the right to have thoughts and feelings of their own, so no harm done.
Glad to hear noted non-asshole Jerry Seinfeld chime in.
Seinfeld has always made it clear that he doesn’t really give a shit about other people. Especially people he sees as ‘below’ him (such as someone’s who job it is to hold cue cards). The whole insincere “that’s a shame” reaction is mostly how he goes through is life. Someone getting yelled at by their boss for not holding cue cards right? That’s a shame!This just makes it clear that Fallon is as big of an ass hole as Seinfeld.
i think that’s a byproduct of being a super successful comedian, too. if everything is a joke then everything is a joke. obviously doesn’t apply to every single one, but i can see how monetizing your opinions and dedicating your life to having one-way conversations in that way would completely warp your brain, especially if doing it generates you millions of dollars.
100%. Don’t think Seinfeld is a terrible person (nor is Fallon) but no way in hell would I work for either. Seinfeld sees most moments in public as a joke, or material for one. Also to your point of millions of dollars, its like a half billion at this point so yeah, that doesn’t help anyone be relatable either.
the comedians in cars getting coffee episode where they straight up make fun of a guy for being homeless (i think it was with chappelle maybe?) really solidified it. it’s all hypothetical and representing a concept, even real stuff right in front of your face.
Eddie Murphy, but yes.There’s also the Bill Maher episode that has both of them “joking” that they really don’t want anything to do with people who make less money than they do. That episode is like the Rosetta Stone of assholery for them both.
There was also an episode where he got really mad because a waitress double checked to make sure she had his order right, made some demeaning comment about her. I love the show Seinfeld, but Jerry Seinfeld the person, not so much.
“Don’t think Seinfeld is a terrible person (nor is Fallon) but no way in hell would I work for either.”
Why? I’ve never heard anyone ever say they were mistreated by Seinfeld.
Seinfeld has always made it clear that he doesn’t really give a shit about other people. He made a whole show about it! With is name! And he was playing himself!
and people loved it
“The whole insincere “that’s a shame” reaction is mostly how he goes through is life.”
Please provide some evidence, since you’re so personally connected to Jerry Seinfeld that you can make such a declaration.
“. . . And what’s with the cue card holders? They hold the cards . . . there’s . . . actually nothing funny about them . . . I COMMAND YOU PEOPLE TO LAUGH! I’m JERRY SEINFELD, Damnit!
He’s exactly the type of guy to say, “well, I’m famous and rich so I earned the right to be an asshole!”
Bland Seinfeld managing to offend woketards is really a sign of how fuckin stoopid you are
Its not going to affect Fallon. Lots of employees at lots of workplaces have a grudge against the employer for one reason or another. Just because its ‘WORK’, doesn’t make it ‘TOXIC’.
Jerry’s history of defending people’s actions doesn’t always work out well.
So, a non-article about a non-post about a non-moment, got it
.
‘He was fine around me, so I don’t know what these other people are talking about.’
Counterpoint: Cue card guy has one fucking job.
Could you imagine a workplace where you only have one job to do? Oh, how that must be!
Usually they have other production roles as most productions don’t have the luxury of hiring somebody just to hold up a card.
“most productions don’t have the luxury of hiring somebody just to hold up a card.”
Which micro-budget show are you talking about? The Late Show? Late Night? The Tonight Show? SNL? The Late Late Show?
Which if these shows produced by a massive corporation can’t afford a cue card guy?
I’ll wait.
A Rolling Stone article with overblown, inaccurate and invented telling of “facts”? Sounds about right.
There’s a dean at UVA that may actually own the Stone in Rolling Stone now.
Ha!
That magazine hasn’t done real journalism in a long time.
decades of Matt Taibbi pretending to be Hunter Thompson didn’t do much to help that
That’s great, but literally DOZENS of employees of the show have said it’s a nightmare, so I think I’m gonna go with the non-millionaire dozens.
“Now, Jerry Seinfeld is invoking a second essential trope: the “actually, that’s not the truth, Ellen,” coined, of course, by Dakota Johnson in response to the host’s suggestion that she wasn’t invited to Johnson’s birthday party. This time, however, Seinfeld is taking a moment to defend the host in question, and the proverbial Ellen of it all is Rolling Stone.”
What?
Dakota said “that’s not how it happened” to Ellen once, Jerry is saying “that’s not how it happened” here….
Yeah I re-read that because it didn’t make sense to me, and then the idea of reading it a third time made me feel tired.
Jerry is to Dakota as Fallon is to Ellen, in terms of doing a “actually, that’s not the truth” thing, which apparently is a thing altho i’ve never heard of it.but wait, its even more deliciously complicated, bc Jerry defended Fallon while Dakota admonished ellen, so its even more food for thought i guess somehow in some way.hope that clears everything up
Who wrote this article, Abbot & Costello?
Much unlike Shakespeare was very good at writing words, AV Club writers are bad.
“It’s just like this thing, but completely different!”
In what way is Dakota Johnson correcting Ellen so different from Jerry Seinfeld correcting the article?
“It’s just like this thing, but completely different!”
I mean, they’re BOTH correcting someone’s statement. How are they completely different?
Well, there were words. Does that count?
I’m guessing that you’re mostly calling attention to the word salad, which is indeed quite bad. Assuming you’re interested in the basis for the tortured analogy, too, though, I happen to somehow know the following:While interviewing Dakota Johnson, DeGeneres tried to do a playful teasing routine (some would say it didn’t come across as being too playful) about Johnson having not invited DeGeneres to her birthday party—after having done the same thing the year before. It was something along the lines of, “How was the party? I wasn’t invited.” Johnson, however, had invited DeGeneres to her party and rather than being playful about it back, she declared, “Actually, no – that’s not the truth, Ellen.” Then she followed up with, “Ask everybody. Ask Jonathan, your producer.” Said producer (or someone affiliated with the show) then eventually came out to confirm that Johnson was right. DeGeneres pretended that she then did remember the invite and couldn’t imagine why she wouldn’t have gone, followed by a deflection about having had some prior commitment. But the whole episode became part of the larger narrative about how DeGeneres has cultivated a public persona —chipper, gregarious, kind—while being reportedly a horrible, condescending, unkind boss to her staff behind the scenes. If nothing else, some saw it as a big ol’ consequential chip in the façade where a genuine celebrity was calling bullshit on DeGeneres in public.
I absolutely said “what” out loud after reading that too. Lmao.
They bend over backwards so hard to plug as many previous articles as possible, and it makes the article sound like fucking gibberish.
Letterman had a whole thing about making fun of the cue card guy. Seems like I’ve seen most talk show hosts do it at some point. It’s hard to believe many cue card people get upset about the camera time. Letterman’s guy got pretty famous.
And I could see Seinfeld pretend to make fun of Fallon for making fun of the cue card guy as a joke.Disclaimer: I find Fallon unwatchable, so I’m not an expert on Fallon.
Seth Meyer’s cue card guy, Wally, gets featured quite a bit on the show and even has a side business selling cue cards.
Came here specifically to mention Wally, he’s a crowd favorite on Seth Meyers for sure
Tony Mendez, he actually got fired a few months before Dave left for attacking one of the writers.
Wild, didn’t know that. And he died a couple years ago https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/21/arts/television/tony-mendez-dead.html
Fallon’s cue card guy needs a friend like Lyle Hanson.
I find Fallon unwatchable, so I’m not an expert on Fallon.Same here. His silly “aww shucks” persona just hits wrong and seems beyond fake. I have no proof that he is an asshole behind the scenes, but he seems like he easily could be. Then again, I can’t watch Ellen DeGeneres, either. She tries too hard to come across as an affable, silly prankster, but her shtick falls flat a lot and seems mean-spirited more than funny. That gleam in her eyes is telling. She creeps me the hell out, which makes me tend to believe all the awful backstage things I’ve heard.
Conan’s cue card guy would consistently come to work high, and Conan would call him on it, but only in remotes and scraps. And he obviously wasn’t in trouble. Holding a cue card is a job you can do RIDICULOUSLY stoned.
I think there’s a difference between making fun of or bantering with the cue card guy, and what was described in the Rolling Stone article. The article claimed Fallon berated the cue card guy, which is what Seinfeld is denying here.FWIW, I tend to lean toward believing the staffer rather than Seinfeld. Why would a staffer just make up a very specific incident like this? Seinfeld, on the other hand, I can see denying it ever happened so that he doesn’t get pulled into drama he didn’t want or ask for.
“Why would a staffer just make up a very specific incident like this?”
Because the staffer doesn’t like Fallon and maybe wasn’t aware that the cue card guy wasn’t taking it seriously?
I also find Fallon unwatchable but all this drama about something that happened two decades ago is ridiculous. It must be a slow news day. However the story continues to gain traction with some calling for Fallon to be canceled. For the love of Mike find something else to write about than this foolish drivel.
I haven’t yet read the Rolling Stone piece, but the stories I’ve seen blogged about sound very similar to plotlines from the Larry Sanders Show.There was a headline about how Fallon’s mood will set the mood for the office that day and I distinctly recall Arthur asking Beverly, “how are we feeling today” because that would be the mood for the day. I also remember an occasional bit was about the cue card guy and there may have even been an episode similar to one described in this post.IOW: Maybe there’s more and it just hasn’t garnered massive headlines, but what I’ve seen has not made me click-through to Rolling Stone to read about some guy I used to watch on Saturday Night Live and my attitude has been that the complainants are too sensitive and the magazine just wants clicks.
Your conclusion is telling: You haven’t read the piece, but RS just wants the clicks and the person telling their side of things – in the piece you haven’t read – is too sensitive. You do know that all of that says more about you than anyone else, right?
I subscribed to Rolling Stone magazine for at least thirty years, then Jann passed it to his kid and first they started charging extra for an online subscription on top of the magazine price, then they shrank the size of the magazine and the renewal rate became something ridiculous.
The article is behind a paywall, which is why I have not read it. I’m sure if there was something there there, some of the bloggers (who are also in it for clicks) would excerpt the pertinent bit (because their employers are paying the subscription fee or they have one as a business expense).
Thus far, instead of something outrageous enough for me to be outraged or pay for access to the article, I’ve just seen plotlines from Larry Sanders and more of that “he yelled at me” kind of nonsense that has become “news” lately.
You typed a lot of stuff that explained my original point: You shouldn’t have weighed in.
You didn’t read the original piece because you haven’t paid the subscription price and the article is behind a paywall. That’s a justification for not having read the source material, but it doesn’t strengthen your argument. You’re reliant, in this case, on the quality of 2023-era AV Club to excerpt and regurgitate Jerry Seinfeld’s opinion about something that he may not have even read, and you’re treating that like gospel; a third-hand blog post.
I’ll type it again: That says more about you than anyone else. I don’t care if you’re outraged or not. I don’t need you to be outraged. I don’t enjoy the giggling sycophant Jimmy Fallon and I can take or leave Jerry Seinfeld. I don’t work for either of them, so I don’t really have a stake in whether or not you view them favorably. It’s just interesting to me that you’re on the AV Club website, in 2023, commenting unironically about “news” when you haven’t read the primary source material yourself, and your opinions are more influenced by “plotlines from Larry Sanders” and congealed into some “kids these days” bullshit. Must not have been any clouds in the sky where you were yesterday.
Whatever. It’s a nothing story that nobody cares about except for those who like to be outraged and in a few days, everyone else will just have vague memories of it. Jimmy Fallon might lose his job because he’s Jimmy Fallon and somebody better might come along, but they are not going to recast The Tonight Show because he was rude to someone and somebody said something mean on set.
“It’s a nothing story that nobody cares”
Um, the eight (at least) comments that you’ve left would like to have a word with you about whether you care or not.
All true, so let me conclude with the most impactful part – as in most impactful FOR YOU, personally:
In a few days, you’ll still be you.
Whatever happened, happened. If Jerry Seinfeld is right, he’ll still be rich and aloof. Jimmy Fallon will still be a giggling sycophant, regardless of who employs him. “Those who like to be outraged” will still be a collection of vague strawmen about which folks – like you – can type dismissively. And you’ll still be you. Will you be the same you in a few days? No one but you can say for sure…
I am rubber and you are glue. Have a nice day.
I haven’t read any of your comments. But you seem like an ass.
Look man, I adamantly refuse to find out anything else about OP and insist that the suggestion that I find out more for such a ‘nothing story’ is akin to a moralistic haranguing by the professionally outraged – but all of that said I have a very strong opinion that OP is a fucking tool.Please don’t bother trying to dissuade me; I’ll just insist that none of this actually matters and deflect with childishness.
I think you addressed this to the wrong person.
It was a parody of another comment that was a reply to you, so it was addressed appropriately for that intent. Sorry for any confusion!
“It’s a nothing story that nobody cares about except for” YOU, with your dozen replies. Jesus Christ, get some fucking perspective.
+Larry Sanders Show vote.
“Instead of learning anything about this topic I’ve just remembered some jokes from a thirty year-old sitcom” is extremely relatable but maybe worth keeping to oneself.
Or maybe they’re bringing it up due to that show being more of an insight into what goes on at a Late Night Talk Show than others previously might have known, but your dismissive take of another person’s observation works, too…
lol “I’m not bothering to read about this” is a pretty dismissive take in its own right
They said they hadn’t gotten to read the article, yet.
They didn’t dismiss it completely.
Larry Sanders may have aired thirty years ago and I did see some episodes back then, but I watched the whole show in its entirety just last year, via HBOmax.
It’s a great show! Did a rewatch after Rip Torn passed a few years back. Sanders and the writing staff were showbiz vets at that point and definitely cribbing heavily from firsthand experience.
I certainly support your decision not to do any research into this topic. I certainly haven’t bothered to read the RS article because, to be perfectly honest, I don’t care that much? If it is a toxic workplace I applaud their calling it out, but I don’t feel the need to read the accounts. That said, having not further investigated, I think one should refrain from drawing conclusions about either the complainants or the complainee. If we admit to not researching (which is fine!) we should not be pretending we know enough to draw a conclusion.
As I explained to another commenter, the article is behind a paywall and I’m confident that if there was something more than “he yelled at the cue card person and another person watching felt uncomfortable”, the blogs and other media would have told us by now. It isn’t as if the Rolling Stone article has changed.As for “research”, I’ve read at least a half-dozen stories about some show I do not watch, which I’ve read because it is The Tonight Show.
“and I’m confident that if there was something more than ‘he yelled at the cue card person and another person watching felt uncomfortable’ the blogs and other media would have told us by now”There is more than that though reported even here at The AVClub… I find it hard to believe that the other half-dozen stories you read didn’t mention them.
I’ll admit that I don’t come to this site as much as I did years ago, but I have seen a couple of their Fallon posts and just re-read the one linked above.All it really says is that Fallon drinks, different people have said something the complainants considered mean and some of them are so messed-up, they thought about killing themselves instead of looking another job.
If you’ve seen something more, though I care more about the institution of The Tonight Show (which I haven’t watched in years) than whomever is hosting it this year, I’d appreciate you sharing a link and maybe forwarding it to this blog as a tip.
“All it really says is that Fallon drinks, different people have said something the complainants considered mean and some of them are so messed-up, they thought about killing themselves instead of looking another job.”Yes, which is more than “he yelled at the cue card person and another person watching felt uncomfortable.” The “more than” that you so boldly claimed was not reported by “the blogs and other media.”No, I won’t be posting additional links, wtf, do I look like your personal research assistant? Are you offering to pay me for this service? If you give a shit, look. If you don’t (which, again, you don’t have to! I sure don’t), then don’t. All I said was if you don’t give enough of a shit to look, then you shouldn’t be professing to have drawn conclusions.
Dude – Not only do I go to some specific blogs (like this one) and scroll through dozens of news sites every day for both pleasure and work, I am subjected to multiple algorithmic feeds. Maybe you have to go looking for stuff, but stuff just comes to me and thus far, none of the posts or headlines which have appeared on this subject has been worth paying for access to Rolling Stone.
Again, it’s one article. It isn’t like the story has changed or that other sites are finding other people with more stories to tell. It’s all just a fixed piece.
lol I don’t care where you go, buddy. My only suggestion to you was to not go around declaring that you haven’t read up on a subject but that you’ve drawn a conclusion anyway. I was trying to help you not sound like a jackass, but if that’s your pleasure, then by all means continue saying that stuff wasn’t reported even though it literally was reported in the very article you did claim to have read. LOL Keep on, man.
The above post is about “he yelled at the cue card person and another person watching felt uncomfortable” and thus far, though for some reason you seem heavily invested in the topic, you haven’t pointed out anything “more” and nothing “more” was linked from the AV Club post.(I guess if you were measuring “more” quantitively, then other somewhat similar incidents could be called “more”, but my original comment was about weight.)
I know what the above post is about. But *your* comment was about “the stories [you’ve] seen blogged about,” including a specific reference to where you read that Fallon seemed to set the mood for the day. So *your* comment was about the Fallon workplace story as a whole, not just the cue cards. “you seem heavily invested in the topic”Then you’ve misread me entirely. Or you’re just being dishonest, which brings us to the next point.“you haven’t pointed out anything ‘more’”You’re right, I didn’t. You did. You pointed out all the other allegations besides the cue card incident, belying your earlier claim that there was nothing beyond the cue card claims.“but my original comment was about weight”Yeah…no. There’s not a way to interpret your comment fairly as being about weight.But yeah, you’re right this conversation is becoming a waste of time. You’re determined to double down on your conclusions and that’s entirely your right. Have a great night, or the one you deserve. You can have the last word. I won’t be reading it but I hope it makes you feel good.
It’s wild to watch someone so adamantly refuse to come to terms with how much they want to comment about their assumptions, instead of on whatever actual information they’re willing to gather.It’s like…we all do it. People prognosticate about the weather just to comment on that guess! But when someone says “well, we don’t know what the weather will do”, a reasonable answer is “true! I was just thinking about…”; whereas any response that feigns authority is pathetic. “Well, I’ve actually been watching the weather and…”, “I’ve seen this so many times before, I know…”
Just silly. You don’t know. It’s the weather. Even our most practiced scientists on the subject don’t do so well on the ‘weather’ (at least not as well as they do on ‘micro climates’).
I guess it’s a pride thing? Can’t imagine a situation where I wouldn’t just say “yeah, you’re right, I don’t know shit about this. I’m talking about larger trends and I guess maybe this isn’t as contributory to them as I thought? Maybe you can show me how this situation is unlike [this other situation]?”
It’s just… super easy to be ignorant. The only thing that I can think of that might bother a person, about that, is their own ego.
Right, people like to believe that they are reasonable, and don’t want to hear that they aren’t being reasonable. I’ve 100% on here been like “now I don’t know shit about this, but I think….” But in those cases I at least try to be willing to hear contrary information and adjust my conclusions accordingly. No one wants to have to do a deep dive of research into every subject, and it’s completely fun to just talk shit and opine, absolutely (for instance, I haven’t read much about this topic, but I opine that Fallon is in the wrong just because I don’t like him, which I realize is a flimsy basis for reaching a conclusion on this subject), but then you can’t be like I’M RIGHT YOU CAN’T TELL ME I’M NOT. Like, come on. lol
My research would be that Rolling Stone has about much journalistic integrity in 2023 as The AV Club.
I did read the piece and came away underwhelmed. There’s the cue card example, and some vague references to outbursts, but the only other detail provided was:
One employee says depending on Fallon’s mood, they felt like his notes and feedback could be passive-aggressive — personal insults as opposed to constructive criticism. They say he would write comments like, “Are you OK? Seriously, do you need help?” Rolling Stone reviewed photos of the employees’ alleged notes from Fallon that read, “Ugh, lame. What is going on with you? You’ve outdone yourself.”
Oh, and one employee said they smelled alcohol on his breath once
Having read the piece, it seems like these exposes have moved from the Weinsteins and Cosbys to “my boss is moody and kind of a dick sometimes.”
For the record, that’s not really a complaint. Leadership at almost every level of American society is infested with petty tyrants and manchildren because we’ve consistently sent the message that any amount of power is license for low (and sometimes high!) level shittiness. I’ve worked for good bosses, but they’re the minority. The fact that a guy shows up to work hungover and insults his employees’ work isn’t unique and certainly doesn’t rise to the level of sexual assault, but also, why the fuck would a grown man think it’s okay to do that?I will say that the focus here should really be more “why does American society allow this” than “look at this uniquely horrible monster!”
wow you got pounded into dust here, bro.
So based on the fact that on 30 Rock, Tracy, Jenna and the rest of the TGS cast were idiots who talked down to their staff without even realizing it, I have to assume that a bunch of actual SNL cast member like Fallon act the exact same way.
“the rest of the TGS cast” Yes, all two of them.
I just assume it is really common in all of show business.
Listen up fives, a ten is posting
I can totally see Fallon bragging about the great and hilarious relationship he has with his staff. It’s just like Conan and Sona. He berates and insults them and they think it is just really funny. Meanwhile they all hate it.
Jerry saying Jimmy rarely flubs a line is bullshit.He couldn’t get thru one skit on SNL without fucking up or breaking. I don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes at Tonight Show, but there isn’t a job I’ve had in 30 years where the boss isn’t an asshole sometimes, yells at people for what seems to be not a very good reason, and people hate going in to work some days. Does Rolling Stone want to interview me about the idiots I worked with for 25 years? How my old boss was furious that we couldn’t find black mulch for the landscape beds around his house? How his wife berated me once for using “We’d like to wish you all Happy Holidays” in a Christmas Card greeting going out to our clients, stating “we’re not from the South”. His father threatened to fire me because I’m a Democrat. See? All jobs suck at times. Oh and my dept head would come to work drunk or hungover.Let me know when you’ve got something more than what goes on in every work place across the country, RS.
At this point in the 21st century, they don’t have robots to hold the damn cards?
Or get this guy. I don’t think he’s on the road as much, he’s got experience, I bet he’s dying for something to get him out of the house.
Go hang a salami, I’m a lasagna hog
This is the perfect response. Sadly, very few people will get the reference.
I’m just glad there was one
punch a lasagna?!
Doc, note: I diet on cod.
It was such an un-memorable, trivial, non-issue that the two of them still regularly joke about it? It leaves me with one question: What’s the deal with people telling on themselves in public now?!?!?!
Counterpoint: Jerry is also a dick
The Internet will have its pound of flesh. Tonight, it feasts.
Okay, so maybe one instance of fallons asswholness was exaggerated, per jerry Seinfeld. Whtever, fallon is still a prick and his show still sucks.
Barely any of these things mean anything anymore as all of entertainment industry folks, other than top executives, are made to work 18 hour days and work on 4 hours sleep. The environment encourages everyone involved to reach for caffeine, cigarettes, speed, and/or coke, everyone’s a basket case, everyone’s on edge, and the whole place basically promotes the blossoming of asshole behavior.
Yep. And anyone who says boo about it should be grateful for the opportunity! I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve run into this thinking *from people who were victims of this fucking thinking*. Everyone thinks “I had to eat shit, so you will too.”
ENOUGH of Fallon and Seinfeld! Rolling Stone mag lost its groove long ago, by the way. Peace…♐
It was not uncomfortable at all. Jimmy and I still occasionally recall it and laugh. Idiotic twisting of events
Sure Jerry, you insufferable snob asshole, if it didn’t make you or your equally assholish pal unconfortable, why should the guy being disrespected complain, right?I swear to God, a couple of years from now we will find out that Seinfeld had his own hidden scandals…
Human beings are messy.
Try to not get any on you (unless you want to get messy too, of course).
It is an unusual defence there, to say that you and a bully regularly get together and laugh about the incident when he bullied someone, so it can’t be bullying.
Don’t worry, eventually you’ll become an adult and you won’t be such a stupid, judgmental twat.
Jesus Christ. How many link dildos do you need to shove into this article’s ass? There’s like 9 in the first 4 sentences. Chill out with the fucking links.
I mean, this doesn’t surprise me. Really sick of the internet outrage we’re all supposed to feel these days. AV Club: YeAh bUt He jUst sAiD-Shut the fuck up, AV Club. Captain Never-Done-Anything-Wrong. Go fuck yourself forever.
I can’t imagine how sad my life would have to be for me to seek out things I don’t like just so I could whine about them.https://www.betterhelp.com/
I fucking hate Falloon like ISIS hates pork chops, but this whole deal sounds like utter bullshit.
Hank Kingsley drove Sid Newman to suicide but you never see anyone report on that. Really makes you think.
Given that this sort of piece has been written about Ellen, James Corden, Letterman, etc. reading the Fallon article made me think that perhaps it’s just that the talk show workplace setup is fundamentally not compatible with modern standards and more needs to be done by execs to ensure workers are treated well. It seems these hosts obviously have a lot of pressure on them to bring in ratings and that builds up and then trickles down. Perhaps it would be better to create a buffer around hosts with resources for their mental health and then provide resources for employee mental health up and down the food chain. TV is a high pressure environment and it just makes sense to admit it and try to provide healthy outlets for stress.Sure, Fallon is probably an asshole but it’s obvious given the trend that either assholes make good hosts or hosting turns people into assholes. So time to figure out how to fix that problem.
“andd we all had a fun laugh about how rarely Jimmy is thrown off.”