Like the heads of the mythological hydra, a new NCIS is coming just as NCIS: New Orleans is ending
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According to Deadline, NCIS: New Orleans—the “youngest series” in the franchise, as Deadline puts it, even though it’s been around for seven seasons—will end with its upcoming season finale. That finale will be the show’s 155th episode, and it’ll air on May 16. For those who can’t keep the various NCIS shows straight, New Orleans is the one that took place in the Big Easy, a.k.a. Nerlens, with Scott Bakula and his friends… doing whatever it is they do in these shows. Solve crimes of some sort, we assume. It was not the one with Mark Harmon or the one with LL Cool J and Chris O’Donnell. Those are NCIS: Vanilla and NCIS: Los Angeles, respectively.
In a statement, Bakula said that he’s “sad to end our love affair with this phenomenal city” but noted that he’s “so grateful for all the friends we made along the way.” (Yes, he came so close to making a funny joke there.) Bakula also added that he will “miss the music,” which makes us slightly concerned that he thinks New Orleans itself is going away or that NCIS: New Orleans was a big factor in New Orleans developing a reputation as bit of a music town.
Anyway, this isn’t quite the seismic TV shift that it would be if regular NCIS came to an end (a thing that will never happen), but it will deprive loyal NCIS viewers of one NCIS show. Luckily, CBS is not about to abandon people, as a separate Deadline story says the network is moving ahead with a brand new NCIS spin-off called NCIS: Hawaii. Deadline doesn’t expect this one to get a backdoor pilot in one of the other NCIS shows, so viewers will be thrown into the proverbial deep-end whenever this premieres. No word on who might star, but we’re going to guess that it’ll either be one older man actor or two medium-age man actors. It’ll be a man actor, either way. (Prove us wrong, CBS. We dare you.)
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“Anyway, this isn’t quite the seismic TV shift that it would be if regular NCIS came to an end (a thing that will never happen)“It might—-I don’t think the show could survive Harmon leaving, and he’s no spring chicken.
Grey’s Anatomy, OTOH, could go on forever.
It would be a minor impact compared to Law & Order finally dying. Although it seems to be down to a single instance of metastasis — Law & Order: SVU.
Law and Order: SVU, Chicago
It would be named Chicago Court now.They had a Law and Order: SVU/Chicago Whatever cross over a few years ago, so they are all in the same NBC universe with Homicide Life on the Streets.It gets really weird because S. Epatha Merkerson played the detectives lieutenant in the original Law and Order and now plays a different character on Chicago Med.
It’s not weird. Jerry Orbach and Jeremy Sisto both played defense lawyers before becoming detective on L&O. Hell, Sisto was the lawyer in the season finale and then a detective in the next season opener.
It gets even weirder when you consider that Chicago PD once crossed over with FBI (despite them being on different networks), where the two mission control heads are the same actors who played Lupo and Connie in the original Law & Order.
And, just as a side note, Alana De La Garza is still frickin gorgeous.
I think that they’re still making that Stabler series where he fights gangs, or something like that, not sure where the pandemic left it but as far as I can recall it was on the docket and in the canon L&O universe, unlike, unfortunately, Christopher Meloni’s other cop show “Happy!”
It’ll be airing in a few weeks. They’ve already aired promos for it.
Right on, good for Meloni, I like his acting and he deserves the work. Though Stabler was my least favorite of the main four detectives (Munch, Tutuola, Benson, Stabler in that order) so I’ll probably not watch it.
I would totally watch a Munch & Tutuola show.
I bet Bakula was glad that a show of his reached 100 episodes.
Holy shit, I figured Quantum Leap fell short but (1) didn’t realize how close it got and (2) didn’t realize Enterprise got even closer and still somehow managed to fall short. I believe once upon a time 100 episodes was the number to hit for syndication, which unlocked $$$. I wonder if that means he missed out big time? Also -does that even still matter with today’s model?
Enterprise was syndicated, according to Wikipedia. I think by the mid-aughts 98 episodes was considered “close enough.”
Quantum Leap airs on Comet and Enterprise (along with all the other Trek shows) air on Heroes & Icons, so no, 100 episodes isn’t the minimum for syndication.Hell, H&I also airs Mutant X, The Dead Zone, and Martial Law, and all three of them had less than 50 episodes.
Not nearly as much, although there’s still a significant number of shows syndicated to local stations around the country. But more and more, the studios are hanging on to streaming rights for their own streaming services.
Syndication actually could kick in as low as 65 episodes. The schedule would be 13 weeks per quarter by 5 weekdays per week.
and since he is a executive producer or just a producer on there, he’s going to get the sweet sweet royalties.
Dwayne Pride never returned home.
Never mind the hydra; have you guys seen Jolene Blalock’s age-defying wild-caught fish? Grab a tissue!
Those are NCIS: Vanilla and NCIS: Los Angeles, respectively. Do you want an NCIS spinoff starring Vanilla Ice?
Cause that’s how you get an NCIS spinoff starring Vanilla Ice?
“If there’s a Naval crime, yo, I’ll solve it”
Sure hope it ends with Scott Bakula leaping home.
God almighty … with any property that has a whiff of potential nostalgia to it getting a reboot, you’d think Peacock would take a swing at a Quantum Leap miniseries or film …
Yes, but Dean Stockwell’s 84 and appears to have retired. And there’s no point to a QL reboot without Dean Stockwell.
Yeah, he was the heart and soul of that show. He took a one-note womanizing character and made him a decent but flawed human being. I mean, Al had the best episode (the one where he tricked Sam into trying to save his marriage with his 1st wife because he was always in love with her, which is why his other marriages didn’t).
I had actually thought he was dead! Glad to hear I was wrong.
Yes, they should undo Bellisario’s rotten ending.
Ziggy says there’s less than a ten percent chance of that happening.
Gushie!!!
I had no idea that there was THIS MUCH Naval crime in the world!
Based on the episodes of NCIS I’ve seen, I think it’s mostly about stopping terrorists who personally know and hate Mark Harmon (and, thus, hate America!).
Much like after watching seven seasons of Psych, I learned I have no interest in going to the murder capital of the country… Santa Barbara.
Heh – Psych’s homicidal version of Santa Barbara is nothing compared to the per capita murder rate in Cabot Cove, home of Murder She Wrote.
Oh please, Santa Barbara has nothing on Oahu, if Hawaii 5-0 is to be believed.
So they finally stole that title away from Cabot Cove eh? Well if you don’t want to visit Santa Barbara maybe you can go see Dual Spires.
It’s actually Vancouver… I hope that helps? You can safely exist in Santa Barbara.
I had already crossed off Vancouver from my travel list, given that it’s also home to Riverdale, Star City, Central City, National City, and so many other crime-ridden places, so of it super-powered!
Pft that place has nothing on Midsomer
There is a BBC show called Death In Paradise. It takes place on an island that could rival Chicago or New York for murders. Only place that might top it would be Cabot Cove I think.
If it was actually about the Navy, we would’ve had NCIS: San Diego. San Diego is the principal home port for the Pacific Fleet. A huge chunk of the population has some kind of association with the Navy.
Instead, they made NCIS: Los Angeles because they wanted to film in Los Angeles.
It was about the real NCIS it would consist of busting people for positive drug tests. When I was in they also busted people for being homosexual so I’m sure that was fulfilling.
Not to mention several Marine Corp bases, including an air base and one of the Corp’s two basic training facilities.
just like they did with the San Die, I mean, Los Angeles Chargers. Even though I have no stake in the team, I wish they were still in San Diego. It is sad seeing them play in a 1/3 filled LA Galaxy stadium (even outside of the Covid pandemic) cause people in LA don’t give a damn about them. Or the Rams (though that is understandable) or anybody but the Dodgers and Lakers. San Diego people at least seemed to appreciate the Chargers and they almost always had perfect football weather.
I’m not a sports fan but I can understand the sense of loss. Unfortunately, it had to happen after the “convadium” nonsense of 2016.
Actually, I like the idea of a NCIS: Chicago… Chicago, you say? Yes, because few people realize that’s where training takes place. It could be the NCIS family’s Quantico!
And we’d probably get some LA born and bred actor trying to effect a horrible Chicago accent as a hometown beat cop turned Navy investigator – who hates the FBI, because that’s a prerequisite of all TV investigators.
Where do you think the lawyers on JAG got all their cases?
It honestly disappoints me that regular NCIS didn’t have more crossovers with JAG. We got Bud in three episodes and Admiral Chadwiggen in one episode, but that’s it for that show. NCIS: LA somehow had three episodes with basically an entire cast reunion of JAG, but neither Harm nor Mac ever appeared on regular NCIS, despite the casts of both shows working just a few miles from each other.
Hey! They cover the Navy AND the Marines!
Many of the episodes are only tangentially related to the Navy. More often than not, it’s a normal ass crime, but the victim just happened to be a part of the Navy on leave.
They’ve also done a lot of “It’s personal” episodes, which is kinda expected when one of the agents for a good chunk of your show is the daughter of the head of Mossad, another agent was a black ops sniper in a previous life, and another used to work undercover for a decade. Last season actually had a season-long plot about a terrorist hiding out as Gibbs’ neighbor in order to use him to get to Ziva, who they tried to have killed years ago in a bombing.
As for NCIS: LA, while they do have normal everyday murder stuff, the are more of a black ops team, so they tend to be far more pro-active when it comes to terrorists and cartels and the like. Though unlike the parent show, they rarely try to even shoehorn the Navy into it. If it happens in LA, it’s their jurisdiction. They even have a secret lair and everything.
Out of all the procedurals on TV, this NCIS is the most bonkers. Navy crime scene Investigators? It puts Angela Landsbury to shame. If there was anywhere near as much serious crime as these shows propose, the navy would be more like pirates from the 1700’s
New Orleans is the most hilarious. The show exists at all because one of the showrunners for OG NCIS found out that the real NCIS in New Orleans consists of only two people (hence why the pilot only has two agents at the start) because of how little Navy-related crime goes on down there.
Great…now you just tipped off all the Navy serial killers they should transfer to New Orleans.
I can’t wait for NCIS Omaha!
I once did the math (forgot all the factors I used) and if you go off the amount of murder one NCIS team on that show is dealing with, simply by joining the Navy or Marine Corps you would be 5 times I think it was more likely to be murdered than the average American is to die.
Keep in mind that the show has its own shared universe. Not only do you have NCIS, NCIS: Los Angeles, and NCIS: New Orleans, but you also have JAG, Hawaii Five-O, MacGyver, Scorpion, and Magnum P.I.
Which, admittedly, is peanuts compared to the Law & Order franchise. There are nine Law & Order series (original, Criminal Intent, Special Victims Unit, Trial by Jury, LA, Conviction, True Crime, Organized Crime, and Hate Crimes), with Homicide: Life on the Street, New York Undercover, Deadline, In Plain Sight, Chicago Fire/Med/PD/Justice, FBI, and FBI: Most Wanted all in the same universe. The last two are especially funny since they don’t actually air on NBC.
I keep hoping there is going to be a meeting between Gibbs and Hetty sometime. But with Linda Hunt getting on years, that might not happen.
ahhhhh…. aren’t you cute! Go look up the “Tommy Westphall Universe”.
One of my favorite running jokes* on the Late Show is that when he has LL Cool J as a guest, Colbert will always ask him “Your show’s been on the air for over 10 years. Why haven’t you eliminated all navy crime in Los Angeles yet? How much navy crime does LA have?”* Well, it’s happened twice.
Just a bunch of partisan film reviewers who REALLY hated Summer School.
Hah! *Exactly* my thought. 😉
Did they ever do a cross-over episode with this?
Technically no, but the Magnum PI reboot once crossed over with MacGyver, which crossed over with Hawaii Five-O, which crossed over with NCIS: LA, so they are all technically in the same universe.Which made it very weird when Torres made a “MacGyver-ing” joke a few weeks ago on regular NCIS.
So, Hawaii 5-0, Magnum and now NCIS? Sounds like there’s some CBS producers who like working in Hawaii.
That and most of those show’s viewers are over 80 so even if they can’t follow the stories they’ll watch to see the pretty Hawaiian scenery.
I’m 70+ and I don’t watch these shows so you may be right on the audience.
Yea. Younguns are watching new stuff like The Simpsons, The Bachelor, Grey’s Anatomy, and Wheel of Fortune.
NCIS: Hawaii Life. Criminals make crime then look for the perfect house with room for Mom.
I suspect production costs may be cheaper there for some reason – subsidies? And there are a lot of people who put up with the beyond dreadful writing in Hawaii Five-O for the scenery (never saw more than an episode or two of the Magnum reboot). It has already been established that NCIS is in the same universe as they’ve done crossovers.
I am one of those who watched Hawaii Five-o pretty much for just the scenery. They look fantastic on a large high-def screen. The show rest of the show…meh.
Well, Magnum got green lit because they closed down the original Hawaii 5-0. Someone basically just said, “Well, we already have the office space.”
I can’t say I blame them.
Magnum, Hawaii 5-0 and NCIS LA have already had crossovers so they must be connected production-wise. Since Magnum is an ex-navy SEAL I suppose NCIS – Hawaii will pick up the baton from 5-0.
I remember when Jake and the Fatman changed its setting to Hawaii in a later season, and in an interview on Entertainment Tonight, Conrad said that studies had shown that when a TV show was set in Hawaii its ratings increased because viewers liked seeing shows set there.
There was a character introduced on 5-0 in the last season. A Navy Captain (I think) that McGarret brought in. They could transfer her to the new NCIS show and she’d fit in perfectly.
Man, it’d be so rad to see something set in Louisiana that doesn’t take place mostly in New Orleans. NO is wonderful and all, but there’s a whole-ass state out here, full of colorful culture.
Scooby Doo on Zombie Island was good, although I’m not sure the characters could sustain their own television series.
When I was a kid I must have watched that movie, well, more times than I can recall. As far as the vast Scooby-Doo franchise goes it beats the hell out of the live action movies (though their casting was good) but falls short of “Mystery Incorporated”
The first season of True Detective was both set and filmed in Louisiana. It’s been a few years since I saw it, but I remember a fair few swamps and no Mardi Gras.
I’m sure people in upstate NY feel the same way when every other show ever created takes place in NY, NY and they don’t have like Law and Order: Buffalo or “The Rochester Files” or something like that. States are more than just their capitols or biggest cities. One of the things I found interesting when watching “Static Shock” as a kid, besides all the superhero stuff, was that it took place in Dakota and not NY or California like almost every other show at the time.
Don’t you know that, according to pop culture, Louisiana is just New Orleans, much like New York is just NYC. FUCK YOU, Shreveport and Utica!!!!
But it’s easier to get drunk off your ass and go to nudie bars in New Orleans.
Look, no one, and I mean NO ONE wants to watch CSI: Shreveport.
You don’t to see an intriguing crime involving a dead Marine and local lawyer Morris Bart?
Only if Bart stays in Shreveport.
I will 100% watch CSI: Shreveport, but only if it is set in the True Blood universe and the lead investigators are Andy Bellefleur and Jason Stackhouse.
You had 8 seasons of True Blood!
And an entire* season of Swamp Thing!*ish
True Blood has entered the chat.
Why are there so many navy related crimes happening in all these cities?
Can’t speak to NO as I don’t watch that one, but regular NCIS typically ties it in with just having the victim be either a part of the Navy, or an immediate family member to someone in the Navy, assuming they aren’t stopping outright terrorist plots.
NCIS: LA is a black ops team, so they are typically deployed whenever anything occurs even remotely near LA, regardless if they involve the Navy or not. Many episodes have actually had them fly out to Afghanistan (and most certainly not the deserts right outside LA) to catch crooks.
Wouldn’t the regular police have jurisdiction over murders committed off of military bases regardless of if the enlistment status of the victim? Especially if it’s just the spouse of a navy person?
But the show’s not called LAPD, it’s called NCIS: LA. Therefore, NCIS gets jurisdiction.Funny enough, one of the main characters was a liaison from the LAPD to NCIS, though that once-every-13-episodes plotline was junked when the character was fired from the LAPD and made a full NCIS agent (IRL because the showrunners didn’t want to do any BLM/police brutality storylines).
Also, keep in mind that this NCIS group legitimately has a secret lair, perform special ops in the Middle East at least once a season, and their interrogation room is a boat house separate from the main base.
Not sure this show gets the credit it deserves for being bonkers.
Oh, that’s not even getting into Callen’s (Chris O’Donnell) entire schtick for the first 5 or 6 seasons where he had no idea where he came from, and every time he manages to find out something it almost gets him killed. Or Sam’s (LL Cool J) wife being a CIA spy herself. Or the fact that the two are so close that most people in-universe think they are a married gay couple despite Callen having a girlfriend (who’s not only a federal agent herself, but the daughter of a mob boss) and Sam being married with a kid. There’s also Hetty (Linda Hunt), who is basically an expert at everything she does, from being a spy to shooting guns to karaoke to basketball. And Nell, the female computer nerd on the team, has beaten up and taken down multiple culprits out in the field. There was also Nate, the team psychiatrist, who went from being terrified to be out in the field to ultra badass CIA super spy in less than a season. Also, one of Callen’s recurring enemies for a while was a sadistic terrorist played by Christopher Lambert, played exactly how you think it is.
Oh, and that secret lair I mentioned earlier? It’s an old Spanish house that, in the first few episodes, is emphasized to look completely empty so nobody knows NCIS has their HQ there, yet the base itself has dozens and dozens of workers there, a garage that is somehow both above ground and hidden from sight, and an entire shooting range in the basement.
Almost forgot. The backdoor pilot on NCIS ended with Callen getting shot multiple times in the chest in a drive-by. Without wearing a bulletproof vest. The first episode of the series proper picks up 8 months later, where Callen is 95% healed and just coming back to work.
Also, one of Callen’s recurring enemies for a while was a sadistic terrorist played by Christopher Lambert, played exactly how you think it is.Hey, that’s Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance’s Christopher Lambert, thankyouverymuch.
well, when you lay it all out like that it seems insane
I always imagine about five TV productions sitting around having to share the same “desert” or “forest” plot outside of LA. “C’MON YOU GUYS……..”
Oh, I’m betting that happened in Vancouver at least a few times.
Great, meanwhile my scripts for “NCIS:Lubbock” sits in turnaround hell. Fuck you, CBS.
Starring Matthew Perry.
“Could the victims BE any more dead?”
So no one told you death was gonna be this waaaaay…..
Did this guy choke, he croaked, and now he’s Dee Ohhh Ayyyyyyye
viewers will be thrown into the proverbial deep-end whenever this premieres.It’s a CBS procedural. All the plots are the same. The proverbial deep end is a dried up puddle of dog piss.
First, this came too close to Bakula-bashing and that is unacceptable.
Second, stop asking for a Quantum Leap reboot or sequel or whatever. It wouldn’t work. My reasons:1) Most of QL were “Leap of the Week” stories that were just excuses to tell a drag racing story, or a murder mystery, or a priest story. There was very little mythology.
2) Today, in a 13-episode season, fans would bitch if four of them were stand-alone episodes. The other nine would be mythology and six would suck. The other three would contradict each other.
3) I’m really not up for the erasure stories that would accompany any white actor jumping into a different race or the “passing” stories that would accompany an actor of color jumping into a white person. To say nothing of the gender bending.
4) Sam had sex at least 1,308,081 times on the show. (Source: Your Sister) All the women (and when he was a woman, all of the men) thought they were with someone else. Get ready for the rape by deception stories.
All in all, QL is best left in the past. Fans would love it to death. The woke would hate it to where the fans felt obliged to defend. Nothing good would come of it.
BUT… Jennifer Garner is RIGHT THERE to play Sam’s canonical daughter. Tell her to put the fucking Capitol One cards down and get a real job.
was CCH Pounder still on the show? She’s a gem.Law & Order…., CSI…., Chicago PD/Med/Fire, etc., all these themed shows, and some critics have the nerve to blame Marvel for interconnectedness fatigue.I hope that the Hawaii show centers an Asian/Pacific Islander lead instead of a white guy or white woman. The circumstances when Daniel Dae Kim and Grace Park left Hawaii 5-0 were rather bizarre and disappointing.https://deadline.com/2018/09/grace-park-on-hawaii-five-o-departure-i-chose-what-was-best-for-my-integrity-1202465283/
“Bakula also added that he will “miss the music,” which makes us slightly
concerned that he thinks New Orleans itself is going away or that NCIS: New Orleans was a big factor in New Orleans developing a reputation as bit of a music town.”Pretty sure the show actually filmed (at least partially) in New Orleans, and since Bakula isn’t retiring, that means no being in New Orleans much anymore.I thought it was surprising that they cancelled New Orleans before it reached 10 seasons, but looking at the ratings/viewers, it dropped off a bunch this year. In terms of ratings, it got less 18-49 viewers than Clarice, Magnum PI, MacGyver, B Positive, the other NCIS series, the two FBI series, Mom (which is also ending), and Bob Hearts Abishola, though it did get higher than stuff like Bull, SEAL Team, and All Rise.However, in terms of viewers, it still gets close to 5 million viewers a week average, which is low for CBS but still over a million viewers higher than Clarice.For those curious, NCIS itself is still in the Top 3, with the #3 ranking in 18-49 and #2 in viewers overall. FBI is #2 and #3 respectively, while The Equalizer is a clear #1 on both lists, though that rating is skewed a lot due to the first episode airing after the Super Bowl. Episode 2 was still very high, (higher rating than NCIS, more viewers than FBI) but not the extent of Episode 1.
The lives of NCIS agents portrayed on the TV shows isn’t even remotely close to reality. They don’t take automatically jurisdiction over local law enforcement just because the victim was a Sailor of a Marine. They don’t do the spooky spy stuff on NCIS: LA. The life of I was in the Navy for twenty years and every NCIS agent I ever met was as boring a human being as you’d ever hope to meet. I’m not knocking any of them as people—the vast majority were good people and were interesting each in their own way. They just had boring, rather bureaucratic jobs that actually rewarded doing things in a very methodical manner.NCIS agents are much more likely to be at a desk working investigating petty crimes and checking security clearances than busting some international crime ring. In actuality, most of the sex crime solving stuff would fall under other law enforcement or intelligence agencies anyway.
Is “Yes, he came so close to making a funny joke there.” your idea of being funny, Sammy? Or “New Orleans is the one that took place in the Big Easy, a.k.a. Nerlens”? Wow. And someone pays you for this crap? Double wow. Seek help, preferably from Dr. Kevorkian.
maybe he just means by the music he’ll miss the zztop theme song
viewers will be thrown into the proverbial deep-end whenever this premieres.
It’ll be all very confusing.The cool boss, the hot chick, the funny dude and the nerdy tech person will be – on a beach! How will the viewers cope with so much change???
“we’re going to guess that it’ll either be one older man actor or two medium-age man actors. It’ll be a man actor, either way. (Prove us wrong, CBS. We dare you.)“Didn’t the pilot of NCIS:LA have a female as the lead character, with Chris Odonnell as the supporting character? But when it got picked up they wrote that female character completely out and made Odonnell and Cool J the leads? I think she returned in the first (?) season finale and explained why she was away, and then killed her off.
If I remember right, Callen was part of the original concept and Hanna added in development, so they were there from the start as the starring roles, not supporting. But there was supposed to be a lead woman who was the sort of head of the division. Louise Lombard played the role in the pilot but was cut from the show, purportedly because the character Macy tested poorly with audiences. I don’t remember anything about the character, tbh, but I only watched a couple of the episodes of season 1. I wouldn’t be surprised if the character tested poorly—not by any fault of the actor, but because whatever team of scribbling idiots writes for the NCIS franchises is really, really bad at writing women.
From what I remember of that original “pilot” Louise Lombard (thanks for that name, I never would have remembered it) got the “starring” credit, with Callen at the end of the cast list with the “And Chris O’Donnell” – not exactly how you’d list an actor you wanted to be your main character. He was the most well known actor in the cast, but he was definitely not put forth as the main character in that episode.The official pilot got rid of Lombard and either never mentioned her, or said she was on assignment once and never mentioned her again (until she returned in the season finale where she was killed off). O’Donnell was listed as the first name in the credits, moving him up to the main character.
I’m not going to complain about NCIS: NO just for keeping CCH Pounder gainfully employed for years
Phew. I can continue to contemplate my Naval crime uninterrupted.
I want to see the Air Force version where in every episode the perp is a white supremacist from Colorado Springs that they aren’t allowed to arrest.
Gah. Of course the one they kill would be the best one. And yes, I speak from experience, I watched them all for too many years, but N’Awlins was the only one that is any good these days.