Here’s some bad news for the few remaining loyal viewers who still somehow care about The Ellen DeGeneres Show: Ellen DeGeneres finally read the room and is ending her long-running talk show. The Hollywood Reporter broke the news that the show’s upcoming season will be its last. According to THR, DeGeneres told her staff the news on Tuesday, May 11. She’ll also have a chat with Oprah Winfrey to officially disclose the details of her decision on Ellen’s May 13 episode.
DeGeneres gave a statement to THR, saying “When you’re a creative person, you constantly need to be challenged—and as great as this show is, and as fun as it is, it’s just not a challenge anymore.” This news come after a BuzzFeed News exposé where employees alleged “racism, fear, and intimidation” going on behind the scenes. Ellen lost over a million viewers after the exposé went viral.
The talk show host also spoke to The New York Times in 2018 about being encouraged by her spouse Portia de Rossi to move on from the show, though her brother and Warner Bros. executives urged her to not cancel it. Now everyone who goes viral will have to find another talk show for their aspirational interview wishlist.
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More like FAILIN’ DeGeneres, AMIRITE?
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“When you’re a creative person, you constantly need to be challenged—and as great as this show is, and as fun as it is, it’s just not a challenge anymore”It’s YOUR show, so if it lacks creativity and is unchallenging, that’s on you EllenHard to be challenged when you surround yourself with sycophants afraid of the mean girl firing them.
She was just challenging herself to be shittier to her employees, apparently.
I mean I bet every talk show host feels that way after nearly 2 decades, but this is still a nakedly obvious cover for what’s really happening.
I would definitely read the Hollywood Reporter article before believing that Ellen’s ouster is connected to last sunmer. The AV Club is being highly irresponsible in it’s “news”wire
jesus, this was on for 20 years?
Like 17 I think. I remember it started right around the same time as Finding Nemo.
wow
“It’s YOUR show, so if it lacks creativity and is unchallenging, that’s on you Ellen”
YEAH, just change the entire show, do what you want, you pay for it, right?
Oh, you don’t? QJ201 is simply a moron who doesn’t have any idea how TV shows work? OK, fine. I’ll move on.
To be fair, there’s only so much you can do with a daytime talk show format, especially after almost two decades. You can come up with new bits, but even those aren’t going to be markedly different from your other bits.
if you are stale and out of ideas!
Too bad her employees didn’t find working on the show as un-challenging as she did.
[Ellen working on memoir]“Having achieved every goal for my show, I saw no need to continue for another season.”
Has she tried the incessant and unjustified giggling that’s made Fallon such a success?
It’s fascinating that Ellen managed to be challenged by her show’s format at some point, but also shitty to her employees. Like, if you ever thought it was challenging to invite a child from YouTube on TV and then rhythmlessly dance, surely someone managing to construct a method of conveyance for a fluid like water by putting it into a vessel and handing it to you would just blow your fucking mind.
I mean, it IS a challenge to make a talk show interesting five days a week for, like, 7 or 8 months at a time. There’s hundreds of talk shows that barely last a year but Ellen managed to last 19.
I’m sure you know lots of people who’ve held the same exact position at the same exact company for 20 years.
LOL seriously, that quote says a lot more than she likely intended. I read it and just thought to myself “Ellen’s gonna Ellen…”
If she was feeling unchallenged, all she has to do is look no further than Conan O’Brien for inspiration. He’s retooled his show a couple of times over the years and is taking a new leap over the HBO now. He’s never felt stale to me.Ellen, on the other hand, has felt stale for at least the last ten years. If she felt unchallenged, she could also have maybe devoted some time and energy to becoming a competent interviewer. Holy smokes her interviews are hard to watch, what with all the interrupting and the terrible questions.
I would be very surprised if she hasn’t changed. Ellen has a very long history of generosity and kindness and she laid out a plan for allowing employees to give feedback.
As for creativity/challenge, she has talked about possibly doing movies and she might be enjoying Game of Games more.
Cancel culture works (if the target of said cancellation is a woman and/or gay)!(not that Ellen doesn’t deserve it, mind you)
Today I learned that Harvey Weinstein is either a woman or gay.
What he did wasn’t cancel-able behavior, it was felonious.
It can be two things. But committing crimes that are felonious does NOT always get folks cancelled as history has shown.
And Bill Cosby, too, Harry Dean Learner!
Somewhere, Billy Bush is wondering why he still has no career…
As a rich white lady who’s pals with a former President (not the one you’d suspect, but still), I think she’ll be fine.
Honestly, it’s exactly the one I’d expect.
Fair. I probably should have said “Not the one I would have suspected 5 years ago.” At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if she palled around with President Snow from the Hunger Games.
Come on down, George W! Trump won’t have her.
But I thought cancel culture wasn’t real! Which is it: it works (on the people it’s meant to protect), or its a right wing fantasy? And why are all these right wingers so concerned about a movement towards mob justice that mostly ensnares women, people of color, and gay people? Aren’t they supposed to hate those groups?This is so confusing. How can you be right about everything, yet face such strange paradoxes? Oh well, I’m sure some thinkpiece writer will torture some logic to make it all fit.
Her contract was already set to end next year. If cancel culture works, she would have been off the air last summer.
it would be very funny if during the oprah interview she came out as straight.
“Yep… I’m irrelevant”
I’m curious what will the various networks do to replace the timeslot. Ellen airs here at 4pm on my local NBC affiliate, and given that its two biggest competitors air local news then, I’m betting they’ll finally join the club on that one.
I don’t know what they will fill the slot with but I would be surprised they’d go the local news route if that’s the what the competitors are doing. I would continue to try and differentiate, find the folks who aren’t interested in local news at 4 PM and give them what they want instead.
I mean, the only other real option would likely be another talk show. Our ABC affiliate airs The Drew Barrymore Show at 4pm, but they’re always a distant fourth behind CBS & Fox.
Wait – Drew Barrymore has a talk show?
Yea. I have never watched it because I don’t watch any talk shows (thank god for digital subchannels) but it is apparently as strange as Barrymore has been in recent years.
Coming soon: Tomi in the Morning!Actually, scratch that. I bet Lahren dances like shit.
*Afternoon
“Timeslots”? What a quaint notion!
Rosie 2.0?
Bye, Felicia.
Thank you for the perfect screengrabs everytime.
I read that bullshit “It’s just not challenging enough anymore!” line and for some reason this popped into my head.
Her show is on in the background sometimes at home and she looks so dead in the eyes. I actually am loving her new furniture design show though, I just hope she’s not an asshole working there as well 🙁
she’s 60, she’s been doing the show for almost 20 years, and she has said many times that she doesn’t want to do the show.
so, poor thing, she gets to hang out with her wife full-time now.
her assistants at home 🙁
…so, poor thing, she gets to hang out with her wife full-time now.
Portia coming to terms with the “new normal”.
Portia will have to hide her boyfriend.
Pulling the show from last place in the ratings not challenging enough?
A rare instance where an unrepentant abuser and egomaniac gets exactly what she deserves. She should never show her face publicly again after all the lives she’s ruined.
Were you able to finally orgasm after posting this?
Ellen’s letter reminds me of a teacher at my high school who got busted for having an affair with a student. He hurriedly resigned before the school could fire him, and he tried to make it sound like leaving was his idea, and completely unrelated to that whole sex with a minor thing.
Yeah, I have to say, not much respect for people who can’t talk straight when absolutely everyone knows what’s really going on. I don’t understand the impulse to try to exert this kind of blatant, unsuccessful image control.
It may be difficult to believe for some of the younger folks, but if this is the last chapter in Ellen’s professional story, it’s kind of a tragic arc for someone who was ground breaking in a lot of ways and the kind of person who, once upon a time, was an underdog worthy of support. Her early stand up was considered really clever, self deprecating, deadpan in a way that reminded folks of Bob Newhart (she used to do a phone bit clearly influenced by Newhart’s act, and she did it very very well). When she landed her own show, it felt like someone who had overcome a lot – an unremarkable looking woman in stand up in the 80s and 90s – had finally had their big break. And then she came out of the closet, and all hell broke lose. She really went through a lot of shit, and it ultimately cost her her show. She was in the wilderness a few years, until 9/11 happened, and she happened to have the task of hosting the Emmys a few months after the attacks. This was in “the before times” when 3,000 dead Americans was considered a tragedy and not just another Tuesday. Folks weren’t sure if they’d be able to laugh again. And she fucking killed. So when she got her talk show – it felt right. It felt just. I never really watched it, besides the occasional clips, but I was happy to know she was out there, doing her shimmying dance and entertaining my mom’s friends. I look at where she is now, and the allegations from the last few years, and part of me is glad that someone who was responsible for such a hostile and hellish work environment is getting a small taste of karma, but part of me wonders if this is just someone who came up through the business where a thick skin and really sharp elbows were needed, and now times have changed and she’s out of step, and it’s in even more stark relief because she’s a woman and not, I don’t know, David O Russell or some other male auteur.
Is this what they mean when they say ‘You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain?’
From the Ellen DeGeneres as Batman / Rosie O’Donnell as Joker movie we need. (In case you’re wondering, Barbara Walters is Alfred and Tig Notaro is Commissioner Gordon).
The most textbook example.
ish, but that line is really fucking hacky
So I guess I don’t need to hold for applause, then?
no, ya don’t.
Well, “Two Face” seems like a pretty good nickname for Ellen.
“What would bug the Taliban more than seeing a gay woman in a suit surrounded by Jews?”
After all that came out (no pun) last year, and other issues over the years, I do think she gets what she deserves (and she has millions in the bank, a bunch of property and what not – she’ll be fine). But it does hurt. As a queer person, her coming out was a milestone in the global LGBTQ+ fight for equality. Her visibility, and the way people generally responded to her after the initial backlash and with the arrival of her talkshow, has been extremely important.But – she forgot her roots, she forgot her fight. Frankly, she became a sell-out and considered herself superior to many others – and then things turned ugly real fast.It’s a shame, it really is. But her past is not an excuse for her present, underscored as it is by her preaching kindness while practicing quite the opposite.
Sure. Making “niceness” part of her personal brand and then being proven the opposite of that – running a “niceness factory” for lack of better term where its discovered the little worker elves are all treated like shit – it’s not a good look, or a good way to live your life. Perhaps in my initial post it sounds like I’m trying to make excuses for her. I guess I’m trying to place the whole of her career in context and say, not so much that I feel sorry for her or feel like she isn’t getting what she deserved, but rather try to judge her impact as a whole and also say “you used to be so cool, it’s a real shame you turned out this way.”
yes, this doesn’t undermine the amazing road she paved for lgbtq people, I hope people are mindful of that. But that amount of wealth obviously comes with some moral compromises, but maybe she can turn it around still and return to her roots.
I’m sure there is a checklist out there for her to follow. Or, she can just retire in peace.
People forget that she never wanted to become a role model, but was forced into due to circumstance. She wanted to live her life as a non-threatening and apolitical lesbian. The talk show finally gave her that outlet.
Yet in a way that made her a strong role model – the normal person. The lesbian who is just like everybody else, albeit lesbian. I honestly think in that ‘role’ she meant more than had she taken a truly activist role. She was a key person in normalising queer folk and showing the world that at the end of the day we’re really not that different.Until things started to change.Thankfully society has evolved enough that her positive influence for lgbtq+ folk won’t be undone by this, but she quite ruined her own reputation.
I think it’s possible you might be reading sources that are telling you an alternate version of (what at least myself) believe to be the story.
She started receiving a lot of negative coverage but I’d like to hope some of us can decide for ourselves (and which you are free to do) and think phrases like “sold out” are entirely subjective. It’s entirely possible that she wasn’t heavily aware of much of what was going on or how bad it was. Some of the complaintants were simply talking about lack of advancement opportunities and trying to paint it as a diversity problem which isn’t a crime.
It’s important to note that Steve Harvey has the same policies of no one in the crew is allowed to talk to him and he didn’t get anywhere near the same crap.
Realize that story broke in 2017 when people weren’t hell bent on raining spitfire on pubic figures who weren’t woke, and entertainment journalists like the AV Club at least pretended to have some objectivity:
Steve Harvey Defends His Staff Letter Telling Employees Not to Speak to Him (esquire.com)
In all honesty, I think that Ellen is anti-cancel culture and defended befriending George W Bush (something the Obamas and many others have done) and Kevin Hart and those were apparently some big controversies. I think a lot of the LGBT community wanted to put her up on a pedestal as something she wasn’t and then saw her as the epitome of respectability politics. In actuality, I think she stands for being infectiously kind and understanding to people and she was singlehandedly called out for it, and personally I find it disgusting. But that’s me personally.
My sell-out remark mostly referred to other things.W. is one of the things I meant – while it´s horrendous others (including the Obamas) are all chummy with him, when a queer person goes out of their way to defend him while he used the (then) wedge issue of marriage equality explicitly to get elected there’s quite a problem. Obviously there are many more issues with W.But it’s more that she started to put her face on everything and even became a Cover Girl – the parent company of which tests on animals while she is a vegan and big on animal rights. There are a few more examples of this but can’t immediately recall them (and can’t be arsed to look them up now).That others, such as Steve Harvey, may have acted in similar ways and get different treatment does not mean Ellen should be given a break. It means others shouldn’t have been given a break. That’s not misogyny – that’s a society infused with toxic male privilege.
By all accounts, standup is always challenging. And never more so than when you haven’t done it in a while. So if ‘I need new challenges’ was the only factor here, Ellen could just follow in the recent footsteps of Eddie Murphy, Jerry Seinfeld, and Dave Chappelle (to name a few) and… return to her roots, right?
That said, we know that the lack of a challenge isn’t the real issue here… At the risk of unfairly borrowing from the prosecution in the Derek Chauvin case, the real issue here isn’t that the industry too often requires thick skin and sharp elbows. It’s that the industry too rarely rewards people willing to reach down and pull up instead of punching down holding back. Ellen’s public-facing persona was one thing and the environment that she created was, apparently, quite different. That’s not on the industry. That’s on Ellen.
for every ellen, there’s a dolly parton.
Huh?
You don’t believe that Ellen is ending her talk show because she voluntarily wanted to end it. I would definitely read Hollywood Reporter’s take. This is some very misleading reporting by AV Club Newswire. Ellen didn’t fail at her talk show by any means and she’ll have a future.
I didn’t suggest that she failed. I didn’t suggest that she wouldn’t have a future; hell, I started by suggesting one…
I read the Hollywood Reporter piece. I know spin when I see it. I think she wants to end her talk show because her talk show isn’t fun for her anymore. And I think it isn’t fun for her because what she used to be able to do in the shadows got brought to light. If you want to read that as voluntary because a bunch of PR puffery came with the announcement, you’re welcome to that… But none of what you wrote is really a response to what I wrote.
I apologize, in that case
Her quotes dismissing the experiences of her staff… and the investigation into those revelations… are a pretty damning indictment, but not in the way she thinks.
And then she came out of the closet, and all hell broke lose. She really went through a lot of shit, and it ultimately cost her her show.
That’s not exactly true. The ratings for her show had been declining for seasons and the writers had resorted to the usual sitcom gimmicks to try to turn things around (including introducing a wacky cousin play by Jeremy Piven). The coming out episode actually boosted the shows ratings but then they started to decline within weeks when it became apparent it would be the exact same show only now the title character likes women.
I think it’s a combination of things. The ratings were flagging a bit, but I also remember just a total media storm around Ellen’s sexuality and like, front page stories about whether or not she was gay and whether or not she’d come out. And then when she did, groups threatening ABC and eventually a parental advisory getting slapped on the show. I can’t imagine any of the latter issues did the show any favors when it came time for renewal.
Especially the late unlamented Jerry Falwell, May He Burn in Hell!I remember DeGeneres saying about him at the time, “Name-calling — very Christian of him.”
Well, like I said above, I don’t think Ellen ever set the ratings on fire. It was one of those things that does okay and doesn’t cost much to produce, so the network keeps it around. Like those sitcoms with David Spade where you would see it and think, “Oh, this is still on?”
It’s there. It was just so… Bland? The only plot of any episode that I really remember is Ellen’s bookstore is being used as the set for a film and she gets hired as an extra but she’s so anxious she just can’t stop staring at the camera and winds up getting kicked out of her own bookstore and replaced by the nasally co-worker she doesn’t care for (but secretly does).
I feel like all the media attention Ellen was getting when she came out and knowing the coming out episode was in the can (because that wasn’t until towards the end of the penultimate season) led to it be renewed.
nope.
after the coming out episode, the entire show was about being gay.
The show before she came out focused a lot on how Ellen is a clumsy, neurotic mess who sucks at dating men. The show after she came out focused on how Ellen is a clumsy, neurotic mess who is a lesbian and sucks at dating women. It really wasn’t a huge change in terms of plot. The just switched the will they/won’t they plot from Ellen and her roommate to Ellen’ aforementioned wacky cousin and Carrie Fisher’s sister. Saying the entire show was about being gay is like saying Friends was all about being heterosexual.
even the cast complained that the show was different after the coming out episode.and yes, friends was all about being heterosexual.
She and the network got a lot of threats, complaints and hate mail, but the show lasted for another season. She then had a standup special and another sitcom very soon after, and then obviously both Finding Nemo and her daytime show immediately after that. She doesn’t really have any gaps on her resume.
She and the network got a lot of threats, complaints and hate mail, but the show lasted for another season.
The coming out episode was towards the end of its season. So it was probably renewed before that, maybe in anticipation that the media attention would lead to ratings picking up. I don’t think it was ever a show that did huge numbers with viewers. It was one of those shows that’s just sort of there.
Yeah, people seem to forget now that celebrities didn’t come out before Ellen. She broke that barrier and it nearly cost her her career. I never really liked her comedy, but I was so happy for her success because it showed that being openly gay wouldn’t be a career killer. It really sucks that it’s ending this way.
A few had, or more often than not had been outed and embraced it rather than trying to stuff Teh Gay back in the bottle.
The first person I remember deliberately outing themselves was Ian McKellan, in response to Thatcher’s pandering to social conservatives by promoting Section 28 of the 1988 Local Government Bill which prohibited “local authorities from promoting homosexuality “… as a kind of pretended family relationship”. While the law was passed, I’m pleased to say that backfired on Thatcher spectacularly — Queen Victoria knighted McKellan the next year, and Elton John came out as gay as well in response to it.
Queen Victoria? How old is that Gandalf motherfucker?
It was Queen Victoria who first demanded anti-sodomy laws…for men, because she couldn’t imagine women doing anything other than lying back and doing it for Queen and Country.
That’s why while Male Homosexuality was illegal in the UK? Lesbianism was exempt….
Queen Victoria died 38 years before Ian McKellem was born
Yes — but anti-gays laws in the UK go all the way back to The Buggery Act of 1533, which made sodomy a death penalty offense.
The law I’m specifically referring to is part of the Offenses Against the Person Act of 1861, which removed the death penalty for sodomy, replacing it with imprisonment (frightening to think that was progressive!).
In 1957, following the trials of several prominent Englishmen (including actor Sir John Gielgud!) under the Labouchere Amendment (which criminalized “gross indecency” in 1885, a sweeping term used to criminalize gay behavior), a committee was set up to consider decriminalization, result in 1957’s Wolfenden Report, whose findings led, a decade later, to the Sexual Offenses Act which legalized “homosexual acts”…in private …between consenting adults 21 or over. The gross indecency statues still held, though, and in fact arrests and prosecutions increased in the decade following passage (Boy Howdy, this sounds a lot like what happened in the wake of Clinton’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy!).
It’s the result of all that where Thatcher’s promotion of Section 28 of the 1988 Local Government Bill, and McKellan coming out in protest, come into the picture….
Just stopped by to say Thatcher was a huge cunt. Fuck her.
Yeah, I feel somewhat sad over this whole situation. She went from being called “Ellen Degenerate” to being defended by the same people for palling around with GW Bush. She became the establishment and probably didn’t realize it, but there are no excuses for bad bosses.
This is well said, and close to my own experience. I grew up seeing her standup and then occasionally watching her first sitcom. I remember the backlash over her coming out (Laura Dern, who was only a guest star in that episode, said she struggled to find work for about a year and she needed security detail), and the hostility toward her relationship with Anne Heche (which went as far as having celebrities go on talk show to blast her for being too affectionate with Heche at a White House function), and the career wilderness she went into for a while (which included a much more enjoyable sitcom [for me] that ran for a season on CBS) before the Emmys and then her talk show. I enjoyed her talk show for a while – I didn’t watch every day, but I did if I knew an interesting guest was going to be on, or if she was having a fun episode. But somewhere along the line – probably around 2010 or so – Ellen started being everywhere (commercials, American Idol, voices in movies, etc.) and what made her feel like you knew her (even if, of course, you never really had) dissipated. A few years later, she was very cold and dismissive towards some of the people in her audience over some costume they were wearing, and I thought to myself – I sit there and see her spend 20-30 minutes reciting product placement for the audience and she can’t even pretend to give a shit about them anymore. I’ve never watched since.You could tell how much she had misunderstood her place in the current landscape when she had Kevin Hart on her show as a PR exercise to get him back as an Oscars host, and it just ended up making people lash out at her alongside their already existing contempt for him.
I didn’t read this newswire, but I imagine they portrayed her in a bad light because the AV Club writers are pretty vindictive but I read the Hollywood Reporter article and she’ll be fine. She has the full support of Warner Brothers and has many creative projeects in the pipeline including game of games. Oprah is giving her a send-off interview and she planned to end the show well before 2018.
Edit: I read this newswire and, oh these guys are ridiculous. “Ellen finally read the room” is certainly not an active description of the state of affairs in Ellen’s head, among her audience, Oprah Winfrey and Warner Brothers executives
Jesse Owens, Joe Louis and Jackie Robinson were later called Uncle Toms.Sorry, I’m not going to forget how groundbreaking she was. The people who are offended by her couldn’t have survived one-tenth of what she went through.
Yeah – I used to really like Ellen. Her standup is (was?) great and I liked her sitcom when I was a kid. It’s a shame that she seems to have become kind of an asshole with all the success. I’m a big Conan fan – and you can kinda hear it on her episode of “Conan O’Brien needs a friend.” It feels kinda awkward and stilted in a way that feels really weird for two comics who have probably known each other for 20 years.
We did it, folks. We got rid of her.
Yep, that pioneering LGBTQ icon sure had it coming, didn’t she?
it’s not true equality unless lesbians can violate labour laws too.
Yeah, she did. This has nothing to do with her status as an LGBTQ icon. She means/meant a lot to that community, but this is about a shitty person getting what they deserve.
I’m reminded of the little snot mutant in X-Men 3 who shit-talks Xavier and Magneto shuts his country ass down.
Ellen did more for LGBTQ issues than any 10,000 message board posters.
Great scene in a bad movie.
for being a shitty boss? Yep.
A job well done if I do say so myself.*dusts off hands*Alrighty, then. Now who’s next?
I am shocked Steve Harvey wasn’t MeToo’ed There’s gotta be some more skeletons there! I’ll get my peepin’ lens
And we put those whiney employees out of work.
What a feeling! It’s like the ending of Ocean’s 8!
Great! Now let’s do the same with Tucker Carlson.
Oh ho ho, we’re not going to do it to a MAN! Do you have any idea how hard it is to get rid of a straight, white man? best stick to women, much easier to turn public opinion against them.
“We”? What exactly did you do? Is retweeting criticisms of celebrity what you consider social activism?
“Here’s some bad news for the few remaining loyal viewers… Ellen lost over a million viewers after the exposé went viral…”“The show has lost 1 million viewers in the months since, dropping its average viewership to 1.5 million per episode.”So 1.5 million is “few”, but 1 million is a lot?Couldn’t just say something about how Ellen lost about 1/3 of its viewership, but just had to try to be snarky about 2/3 of its viewership?
Okay, Ellen.
Math… we meet again.
I became a comedian because I wanted to make people feel good. It
started when I was 13-years-old, when my parents got divorced, and I
wanted to make my mother happy. My whole being is about making people
happy. And with the talk show, all I cared about was spreading kindness
and compassion and everything I stand for was being attacked. So, it
destroyed me, honestly. I’d be lying if I said it didn’t. And it makes
me really sad that there’s so much joy out there from negativity. It’s a
culture now where there are just mean people, and it’s so foreign to me
that people get joy out of that. Then, on the heels of it, there are
allegations of a toxic workplace and, unfortunately, I learned that
through the press. And at first I didn’t believe it because I know how
happy everybody is here and how every guest talks about, “Man, you have a
great place here. Of all the talk shows I’ve done, everyone here is so
happy.” That’s all I’ve ever heard.So, there was an internal investigation, obviously, and we learned
some things but this culture we’re living is [is one where] no one can
make mistakes. And I don’t want to generalize because there are some bad
people out there and those people shouldn’t work again but, in general,
the culture today is one where you can’t learn and grow, which is, as
human beings, what we’re here to do. And I can see people looking at
that going, “You don’t care about what people [went through.]” I care
tremendously. It broke my heart when I learned that people here had
anything other than a fantastic experience — that people were hurt in
any way. I check in now as much as I can through Zoom to different
departments and I make sure people know that if there’s ever a question
or ever anything, they can come to me and I don’t know why that was
never considered before. I’m not a scary person. I’m really easy to talk
to. So, we’ve all learned from things that we didn’t realize — or I
didn’t realize — were happening. I just want people to trust and know
that I am who I appear to be.You mentioned that it almost impacted the show. What did you
mean by that? Were there moments in there where you thought, “I don’t to
want to come back to this”?Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was four solid months. And you have to
understand, in that time, someone got into our house and robbed us and I
lost four animals — three cats and a dog died. It was a tsunami. When
it started, with that stupid “someone couldn’t look me in the eye” or
whatever the first thing was, it’s like a crest of a wave. Like, “This
isn’t going to be that big of a wave.” And then it just keeps getting
bigger and bigger until it was out of control. And I really, honestly,
felt like, “I don’t deserve this. I don’t need this. I know who I am.
I’m a good person.” And I was sitting back going, “If I was someone
watching this, I would think, ‘Well, there must be some truth to it
because it’s not stopping.’” Of course they’re going to believe this
because I’m not addressing it because I was told not to and you can
imagine what that felt like. And it’s a lot to live up to. I started
saying “be kind to one another” because I really believe people should
be kind to one another and so it was easy clickbait to say, “Oh, the be
kind lady isn’t so kind.” … I am kind, I’m also a woman and I’m a boss.Jeez
lol
*dances sadly in the aisles*
honestly, after all the public scrutiny and coal raking she’s gone through lately, I’ll bet what really breaks Ellen is a snarky byline and diss on her dwindling ratings by the avclub chick retweeting press releases
Good one, No13baby — although I am reminded of James Agee’s comment about a big-budget movie he disliked, where after pointing out that his review in THE NATION meant little compared to the huge studio marketing machine, he ended with “but at least I can throw spitballs”.
Do you even know how celebrity blogging works?
Ellen DeGenerate.
good. now she knows the monstrosity she is a part of and helped create.
She looks a bit glazed over, like on pain meds or something.
I was never a fan of the show but I essentially stopped watching even clips after I saw a compilation of her pranking/scaring staff. There were folks who most definitely not into it but she found it funny so kept doing it. I found that enough of a turn off to consciously stop giving her any clicks at all on any format.
I once had a boss who loved cruel practical jokes and who had a habit of sticking with a bit for far too long. Despite my repeatedly telling him that I appreciated neither of those things, he kept on. When I left the job after a scant two years, I cited that as one of the conditions that affected my decision. He was taken aback. It was all in good fun, apparently, even though I’d told him time and again to cut it out. Ellen’s repeated gags that pranked members of her staff and unsuspecting celebrities were always really off-putting to me.
Well it will live on forever in my
I started reading the newswire lately. Mostly since seeing their take on Elon Musk that I consider pretty ridiculous. I’m a journalist and I always try to make the argument against peers that the news is unfairly smeared, but the AV Club newswire is not doing me any favors:
In the last week alone:
-It’s printing this bogus story on Ellen Degeneres with the slant “Ellen is finally reading the room” as if her show ending in 2022 isn’t a matter of something that was negotiated 3 years earlier and rather a continuation of last summer’s controversy. AV Club Newswire isn’t reporting on an event, it’s perpetuating the scandal.
Ellen DeGeneres Show to End at Season 19: Interview – The Hollywood Reporter -Sam Barsanti misunderstanding the plot of the film Snow White in his criticism of the ride and conflating his opinion that the Snow White ride is wrong with what he believes to be the truth that it’s wrong.
-Giving a pretty humongous platform to Charlyne Yi in three separate newswires that conflate second-hand knowledge of abuse on a set with the actual thing and smearing a public figure in the process
-Manufacturing a cast at SNL where the cast was dissatisfied with Elon Musk over three relatively indirect tweets of disapproval (two of which were rescinded). At the end of the day, not one cast member boycotted and various people like Chris Redd, Pete Davidson, and Michael Che reported that in person and even in a private group text that excluded the host, no one voiced any complaints.
-Highlighting a story of a celebrity (Lakieth Stanfield) not getting cancelled over anti-semitic remarks. This one’s an interesting case because according to the holy grail of intersectionality, black public figures sit lower on the scale of oppression than Jews, so I was surprised to see Stanfield written in a negative light although this was a far more balanced piece than most of the other hit jobs they do..
This is basically the AV Club pre-determining who they want to cancel and perpetuating the machine of cancel culture rather than trying to examine through which cancellation is a far assessment of anything.
Honestly, I want to start a blog where I just point out the biases in every AV Club article I read because it could fill up so much material.
She’s been at this for almost 20 years. Regardless of the reason, I think it’s a good time to turn the page. Especially post-COVID.
I just need more of a challenge. I’ve already made all my employees cry twice. What else is there?
Yay!
and nothing of value was lost