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And Just Like That… looks forward while letting go

In "Diwali," Carrie explores the conundrum of facing the future when you're stuck in the past

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And Just Like That… looks forward while letting go
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When a series returns, comparisons to its source material are inevitable. One great thing about Sex And The City was that it usually dove into one overarching theme per episode—whether it was religion or threesomes—with its main characters exploring different aspects of the theme under the canopy of Carrie’s narration. “Diwali” is the first And Just Like That… episode that hearkens back to that golden TV era, as it faces the question of moving on.

Everyone should keep changing and growing as we try to improve ourselves—yes, even (maybe especially) fiftysomethings. But what gets left behind when we do? Charlotte has to accept the fact that her daughters have outgrown the pink princess bedroom she decorated for them years ago. Carrie is stuck in the middle: Unable to stay in her old apartment, she moves too quickly into a new futuristic palatial one that doesn’t suit her at all. (Speaking as a Zillow addict who lives in the Midwest, how much do you think that apartment would actually cost in real life? Two million?). Miranda is also stuck, as to pursue her connection with Che (those fantasy sequences were the lowest part of the episode, directed by Cynthia Nixon herself), she likely would have to leave a large part of her old life behind.

Meanwhile, our newer AJLT friends seem more trapped by societal constraints than anything. Seema is successful, loves her life, but just like her parents, she wants to see herself with a partner (just one that she gets to pick out herself). Nya is weighing all the options while considering whether to continue IVF treatments on the way to parenthood. Meanwhile, she gets a hard sell from “Fertile Myrtle” and her partner that having babies is the only viable option for a couple like Nya and her extremely cute husband. (As a vet of infertility treatments, I really liked this dinner scene; having to force enthusiasm for your friend who’s just announced she’s pregnant again while you’re still struggling is a social tightrope I had to walk many times.) Both Seema and Nya are trying to move forward, while attempting to shake rudimentary expectations behind.

Speaking of expectations, the inevitable Charlotte-Miranda showdown over Che unfurled in a typical manner. In an ever-changing world, Charlotte remains the same old Charlotte, railing against her friends’ decisions when they venture out from the staid privileged pasture she resides in. (Let us never forget her freakout upon catching Carrie and Big leaving a midtown hotel while he was married and she was with Aidan.) Miranda having sex with a non-binary person was enough to blow Charlotte’s mind a bit; still, I have no idea with “You are not progressive enough for this” is supposed to mean. But “What is wrong with people just staying who they were?” is like Charlotte’s mission statement—and an unfortunate one to have as you and your friends and your kids are all getting older. As a weary Carrie points out, everything can change in a second.

Against all of these rich storytelling opportunities, it’s a bit disappointing that so much of Carrie’s time was spent fighting an annoying beeping sound. At least we wound up at the titular Diwali celebration (I also liked Carrie’s respectful question about whether it would be appropriate for her to wear a sari), and Carrie coming closer to tying her past, present, and future. Yes, she could erase the past 15 years thanks to the magic of Dr. Jonathan Groff, but she doesn’t really want to. The best thing any of us can do is retain what’s valuable from the past and keep it with us going forward—like Carrie embracing Big’s records and using his jacket to top off yet another fabulous outfit.

Hopefully, these steps can help make Charlotte a bit more understanding about the changes her kids are going through, and give Miranda the ability to continue on her exploration without blowing up the life she’s already created (poor Steve). For Carrie, as the next episode is called “Sex And The Widow,” it looks like she may be finally ready to take an even bigger step forward in her life.

Stray observations

  • Yay, more Anthony! His banter at the beginning at Carrie’s briefly new apartment was reminiscent of old SATC fun dialogue. Between that scene and Carrie’s “Oh, why isn’t this real wine” during the picnic scene, this was definitely the funniest AJLT episode yet.
  • Great directing job by Cynthia Nixon (even though I really could have done without getting into Miranda’s Che fantasies in her own head). The walking into the light moment at the end was both lovely and symbolic, and it was also pretty impressive how she directed herself through that vibrator scene.
  • Give it up for Jonathan Groff, pulling off The Matrix Resurrections and And Just Like That… in a single month.
  • Also, I’m with Dr. Jonathan, Mario Cantone looks about exactly the same as he did thirty years ago.
  • And the term “comedy concert” makes another unfortunate appearance.
  • That’s Ajay Mehta as Seema’s dad, who also played a busboy who kissed Samantha in SATC season two.
  • “Botox and a little filler are not the end of the world,” says Charlotte.
  • Best outfit: A rare Miranda sighting of cute autumnal ensemble on her coffee date with Nya! I liked her sweater/jacket/broomstick skirt combo, looked like something I would actually love to wear. And the setting was really pretty as well; like the old series, And Just Like That… is making some great use of its NYC backdrop.
  • And worst…: Just when I was complimenting all of Charlotte’s fetching dresses last week, this week she wore an increasingly horrifying series of unnecessarily fussy bowed blouses, like she’d raided a seniors boutique in Miami Beach.
  • Leave it to Charlotte to have pink boxcutters.
  • Carrie doesn’t have Anthony saved on her phone?
  • Thank god for you, Richard Burton.

95 Comments

  • hutch1197-av says:

    Far from a perfect episode, this was at least the first time I felt like I was watching a semblance of the original series. The plastic surgeon scene was a perfect callback to the original humor, and the lunch conversation/argument in the park was the first time the 3 characters behaved like themselves again. (And I appreciated Charlotte’s meta reference to botox and fillers.) Now, if they could just figure out a way to get rid of Che. I have queer, non-binary friends and I can assure you they have other things going on in their daily lives besides smoking pot all day and obsessively discussing the fact they are queer and non-binary. That ever-present annoyance coupled with the fact that Sara Ramirez delivers every line oozing with self-satisfied smugness. As if she should yell “NAILED IT!” every time she speaks. One of the worst tv characters to ever exist. And THANK YOU for that observation regarding Carrie not recognizing Anthony’s number. That’s all I could think about during that call. Why was that even a necessary piece of dialogue?

    • ohnoray-av says:

      it sounds like your issue with Che is that Che is too in your face being non-binary? their characters career is literally about being a queer advocate. okok i see you charlotte.

      • odinocka73-av says:

        I think what Che was seen as on the page turned out differently once Che was brought to the screen, and I think that has to do with Sara’s portrayal of the character. Sara *is* making Che come off as smugly self satisfied, and it *is* starting to grate…not grate like Charlotte, but grate nonetheless. Smug self-satisfaction is not a good look on anyone.Personally, I would have preferred a transgender character versus non-binary—especially since the Rose/Rock character already exists. This makes Che a bit redundant and smacking of overkill.

        • ohnoray-av says:

          “This makes Che a bit redundant and smacking of overkill.”lol we’re allowed to have more than one trans/non-binary character. I think Che is coming off confident in their queerness, and people are upset and not used to that.

      • hutch1197-av says:

        And it sounds like YOUR issue is reading comprehension. I’m actually quite thrilled with queer, non-binary representation. My issue is the writers (and the actor who plays Che) made this character irritating AF, not to mention quite an obnoxious stereotype. If you really cared about queer, non-binary representation, you’d demand a better character than Che. I’ll put it this way: Imagine if they wrote a black character who did nothing but eat fried chicken and watermelon in every scene. Che is that character to the queer community. And before you try to “Charlotte” me again. I’m a member of the community. And I’m FAR from alone in my opinion.

        • ohnoray-av says:

          member too, I don’t really see Che perpetuating anything terribly harmful though. Che exists beyond what we see as an audience of course, but they can’t be everything, in this case they are really a sex fantasy and someone to bust some of Miranda’s ideas around gender and sexuality. I think for a show like this, that’s ok. A show where they are trying to educate their demographic, which is hetero white women, even though they fuck it up a lot. And I really like Sara Ramirez’s performance, they are a little smug and confident, and that’s fine. 

          • hutch1197-av says:

            And that’s fine. We can agree to disagree on that. Where I took exception was your presumption that my distaste for the character came from a queer-phobic place. We have to be able to criticize individuals without others making the knee-jerk assumption that it comes from a generalized hatred for an entire demographic. People can be annoying regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity.

          • ohnoray-av says:

            very fair too, I’m used to the internet being a queerphobic place so apologies for painting you in that light and some of my own hostility!

          • hutch1197-av says:

            I very much appreciate that. So, I would like to hear your opinion on a hypothetical: If a heterosexual, cis male gave a minor pot at a family friend’s funeral and had sex with his employee’s friend in his employee’s kitchen while she was home, what would we think of this man? My point is: aren’t those who support Che’s characater given them a pass for heinous (and illegal) behavior because they’re so enamored with the fact they are queer and non-binary? Shouldn’t we apply the same standards of behavior to all humans? 

        • martincrane-av says:

          Talking about this show as a queer person is incredibly annoying. For some reason if you have anything critical to say about Miranda’s storyline, you get lectured about your own community as if the only possible reason to dislike it is that you’re ignorant and cishet. Maybe we just don’t like Che, don’t like retcons, feel an attachment to Steve & Miranda’s relationship in the original canon, etc etc etc. It’s 2022, we have a selection of representation on TV now, we don’t need to settle for crumbs.

          • barbaradedrew-av says:

            The storyline is dreadful, and not because anyone is queer. It just doesn’t really make sense for Miranda. I really think Miranda as written in the early series would have figured this out before she was in her 50s and would not be cheating on Steve and having an existential crisis over it. I also don’t see her being attracted to Che – the character is just obnoxious and I don’t think that’s Miranda’s type. And why does she also have to be an alcoholic (and a superficially drawn one who keeps small bottles in her bag but then just quits cold turkey??). Sara Ramirez is just not the right actor for this part – it reminds me of her as Callie yelling at Arizona for complaining about her leg being amputated. It’s also not that the plots themselves are bad, they are just poorly written and contradict basic character personality traits. Remember how mad Miranda was when Carrie sent Aiden over when she hurt her back – we’re supposed to believe an older version of that character would get drunk and have sex in Carrie’s kitchen??

          • ohnoray-av says:

            I will say as someone in recovery, the Miranda we were introduced to in the first few episodes made a lot of sense as someone in the midst of active use. Especially being totally inappropriate while taking care of Carrie and cheating on Steve, and the thing with addiction is that you do get what you want in the end(in this case Miranda exploring her sexuality) but you get there in really unhealthy ways and hurt others.

          • barbaradedrew-av says:

            That part of the portrayal is interesting, but I think they should show her grappling with what it means to be in recovery. Most people at that point would benefit from a more formal recovery process – it’s not just a willpower question of pouring alcohol down the drain. That was the part that really bothered me. Seeing her commit to 90 days of sobriety in the context of a peer support program would be my gentle suggestion as her friend. Not immediately just drinking fake wine in the park with friends who are going to roll their eyes and make snide comments about wanting real wine – and pretending the problem is solved. 

          • ohnoray-av says:

            for sure, I thought they were going to show her leaving and then drinking which would have been a better and more accurate portrayal of how hard recovery is. She shouldn’t have to do it alone, and it’s really hard not to internalize the narrative people push around how brave it is to quit on your own.I hope it’s not the end of her recovery story, because I thought they did a good job capturing that active use can happen at any stage in anyones life.

      • fool00-av says:

        che just sucks!!!

      • geralyn-av says:

        The problem with Che is, instead of being a fully fleshed out individual, she’s a one-dimensional trope being used solely for the purposes of character development and storyline for one of the main characters. It’s bad, bad writing, and an insult to the viewers’ intelligence.

      • themarketsoftener-av says:

        Che is like a conservative caricature of a queer person.

    • barbaradedrew-av says:

      I wrote a comment about how I also don’t like Che and some other issues I have with the plot and I realize I mis-pronouned Sara Ramirez, who I believe goes by they/them as of 2021 (I’d read about them using she/they in 2020 and don’t follow Sara super closely).  So if that comment ever comes out of the greys, it wasn’t meant to offend. 

  • moonrivers-av says:

    I mean, Charlotte was tremendously out of line with the “you are not progressive enough for this” (which, Wow! What an amazing/horrible thing to say to someone), but what the hell was Carrie’s, “well, cheating on your husband of forever/suddenly experiencing a new sexual identity isn’t a big deal, because it’s not my dead husband”?Also, I liked Seema’s “happy most times alone, sometimes I need to tell myself that” – what a nice, honest way to view singledom (for someone who wants to share life with another, etc etc)!

    • avc-kip-av says:

      Are we not supposed to remember that Charlotte cheated on Trey?

    • beadgirl-av says:

      Yeah, I can’t actually fault Charlotte here despite that line. It’d be one thing if Miranda were single and experimenting, but she’s cheating on her husband and seems to not be considering him even a little bit. I hope the writers don’t just brush this off, with Steve just shrugging his shoulders and retreating from Miranda’s life.

      • ohnoray-av says:

        I hope there is a storyline to explore some of these outdated ideas of monogamy too. Miranda went about it the wrong way, but I would like a storyline about two adults who want the person they love to explore whatever they want to explore, without it having to be the end of their relationship.

        • moonrivers-av says:

          I mean, the only outdated idea about monogamy is that it’s the only option – Miranda is being awful And she shouldn’t be in that unhappy relationship. Steve being cheated on and not being considered in seemingly any fashion – especially when Miranda has been cheated on! Ugh – is absolutely not going to lead to the SATC/Emily in Paris/money-monsters to be like, “hey, what about non-monogamy for Steve who has hearing aids?”

        • akhippo-av says:

          Can’t do that here. Negotiations would take up the entire series. And it would have to be about Carrie. This is not the show you want and you had to know that going in. 

          • ohnoray-av says:

            negotiations? people tallying up Miranda/Steve infidelity, and what that idea even means are silly. it’s a binary and boring way to look at things.

          • akhippo-av says:

            Um. You have to talk and come to some sort of compromise/agreements if you entered into a monogamous relationship and decide you want to change it. That’s negations. And this isn’t that show. 

          • ohnoray-av says:

            it doesn’t have to be anything deep, this show isn’t super deep, Miranda and Steve having a non-monogamous relationships don’t need some deep dive either. The show has literally always dealt with big complex things in a simple sentence.

          • clemtin-av says:

            They would only need to have a 2 minute scene where they discuss the issue. If the show has time for an uneventful scene of Steve and Miranda making ice cream sundaes, it has time to give them some dialogue during their next ice cream fest where they discuss a significant and ongoing plot point.

        • clemtin-av says:

          Honesty never goes out of style. I have friends in non-monogamous relationships, and I have been in some myself. However, lying to your partner and disrespecting them to your mutual friends (by talking about your affair and relationship problems to them while hiding it all from your partner) is never a good look. If Miranda feels angry, she is probably angry with herself. If she needs a different type of relationship with Steve, or even if he is no longer the right person for her, she has an obligation to simply sit down and tell him, and allow him the same freedom to decide what he wants.

          • ohnoray-av says:

            I assume the show will get to that point, maybe Steve will leave her maybe and maybe not. Neither would be incorrect, and I think the audience would understand either. They got through his infidelity, I’m sure Charlotte is aware of the hypocrisy. Either way Miranda is going to be happier embracing her queerness, coming out later in life is really complicated.

      • moonrivers-av says:

        I mean, that’s exactly what they’re going to do – they’re depicting him like a worse Bill Pullman from the beginning of Sleepless in Seattle (oh no! He has Allergies! What a boring guy!)

      • cjob3-av says:

        Yeah Steve is a huge non-factor on this show.

    • ryanj2727-av says:

      Typical Carrie, centering everything around herself.  That would be exhausting dealing with that… “Well my husband is dead so I win”

    • barbaradedrew-av says:

      Carrie is a child. Her dead husband comment and that little speech about making Miranda sit back down at that picnic table. If I were Miranda, I’d be like, yeah get over yourself Carrie, I’m pissed and I’m going to cool off and call Charlotte 1:1 to have an adult conversation with her without you triangulating and making annoyed side comments about the fake wine.

    • robynstarry-av says:

      Do you remember the hell Miranda put Steve through when he cheated on her?  She’s a big hypocrite.

    • mkfd-av says:

      Totally agree-Carrie can be such a self-centered jerk. Two things can be happening simultaneously. Your husband has died but other people’s lives go on…. 

  • fnsfsnr-av says:

    While I refuse to watch this dumpster fire I can confidently say whatever apartment Carrie landed in would cost far more than $2M. New “luxury” buildings charge a big premium and are also located in more expensive areas. That kitchen also looks huge, indicating she’s in at least a 3BR apartment. As a random example, this 1BR in Hudson Yards is close to $3.5M but is clearly much smaller: https://streeteasy.com/building/15-hudson-yards/73c A 3BR in that building goes for over $8M. 

    • gihnat-av says:

      Wow- yep, you can sure tell I am used to Chicago prices. Thanks!

    • dr-darke-av says:

      I’m looking at one-bedroom apartments in the nicer parts of Jersey City, and the cheapest I can get away with is $2,000/mo. and I need to have a six-figure income to even consider moving in.

    • osolano07-av says:

      To be honest, that apartment looked like a green screen the whole time, so it might be cheaper.

    • mkfd-av says:

      If you think it’s such a “dumpster fire” then why are you among the first to comment? The first two episodes were not good but it has picked up momentum. Haters gonna hate…

      • fnsfsnr-av says:

        When you are a single woman living in NY people are always going to be talking to you about a SATC sequel. Reading recaps/articles is the easiest way to be in the know without having to watch. (And based on what folks have been telling me I have no regrets about watching, on average people seem to have made it through episode 3 before dropping out.)

    • starfishcoffee-av says:

      Seeing as Carrie’s new apartment was terribly green-screened, I bet it was much more affordable than you think. 

  • ohnoray-av says:

    I think Charlotte is a bit of an avatar for maybe a lot of white women who really are trapped into some binary views of the world, and I like that the show might be asking some of those women to reexamine that the views that the show had in the 2000s aren’t progressive.Also I like the show is finally leaning into the fact that Carrie is a rich New York celebrity, so comparing her to ‘the ordinary manhattan resident’ is kind of a stupid critique in this version that everyone loved throwing at Carrie in the original. She was rich then too even if she was dumb at finances.samantha irby is a fantastic writer, and I still liked last weeks episode more than people are hating on it for!

    • barbaradedrew-av says:

      Is she a rich celebrity, or did she just marry a very successful private equity guy and get a taste of that sweet carried interest.  Definitely the latter. 

      • ohnoray-av says:

        I mean she’s been in the gossip columns since we met her and still is, she’s been a socialite the whole series, and now is also a very wealthy widow who can buy million dollar apartments on a whim.

    • paranoidandroid17-av says:

      She’s definitely next-level rich from having married (and been widowed by) Big. Just selling the apartment they shared after he died would have her set for life.

      I feel like the writers are definitely (and quite obviously, though not incorrectly) addressing common complaints of the original series: a) their version of NYC wasn’t diverse enough; b) even considering Samantha, their views on sex/gender/etc. were often quite chaste; and c) admit it, they’re all rich.

    • rkmarks25-av says:

      Carrie wasn’t rich in the original — she had no money. You might recall she had to take money from Charlotte (who sold her wedding ring) in order to buy her apartment when Aiden left. She had no savings, no investments, nothing. Columnists are not rich, and neither are people who have published one book of essays. Carrie didn’t become rich until she married Big.

      • ohnoray-av says:

        maybe not rich RICH, but she was always a low key celebrity, and she would have been doing pretty well for herself if she knew how to finance (honestly not critiquing her, girl didn’t have a clue what a budget was like lots of people)

        • rkmarks25-av says:

          She had a lousy sex column in the equivalent of, what, the New York Daily News? Maybe? And then published one book for which she got a $30,000 advance, and that was HUGE to her. She probably had more credit card debt than anything else.

      • yllehs-av says:

        Carrie spent a lot of money on high-end clothes, expensive shoes, restaurants, and many Cosmopolitans. That amount of spending was probably unrealistic for a columnist, but in theory, she probably would have been financially OK if she cooked the occasional meal and shopped at Century 21.

        • rkmarks25-av says:

          It’s called “credit card debt.” The whole joke of the show is that a writer of her caliber (a lousy column in a New York rag) could NEVER, EVER afford all of those things. So she likely had six-figure credit card debt on top of everything else.

      • themarketsoftener-av says:

        She wasn’t “rich” (certainly by NYC standards), but she was very successful as a write. The reason she had no money for a down payment was because she spent like an idiot.

        • rkmarks25-av says:

          She had a weekly column in a rag, and published one book of essays. Writers, other than your Stephen Kings and JK Rowlings, etc., generally don’t make a lot of money. At all. She not only spent like an idiot, but she spent money she didn’t even have (likely massive credit card debt).

    • sbell86-av says:

      I feel like she was always made out to be the “poorest” of all of them but they all had means. Her apartment was supposedly rent-controlled and anyway it wasn’t a gigantic apartment. She had a crappy newspaper column that probably didn’t pay her in actual capital but in social capital (I mean, she was on the side of a bus). I assumed she probably had a lot of credit card debt. I don’t know how much of a “celebrity” she was meant to be, especially in the earlier seasons, but “celebrity adjacent” – a Penny Lane, if you will – someone who is well-connected which would explain their spicier social lives.And then clearly when she married Big she married into cash and perhaps ended up richer than the others.

  • redbeansandricedidmissher-av says:

    I know David Eigenberg is on the Chicago Fire show and can only make limited appearances here, but the complete lack of discussion of Steve with regards to Miranda’s hookup is so frustrating. That should have been what Charlotte focused on, not Che being non-binary or wondering if Miranda is “progressive” enough to be LGBTQ. Our Char who lectured Carrie in Abu Dabhi about playing with fire with Aiden would have immediately pointed out that Miranda is MARRIED and should remember how she felt when her husband strayed in the first movie. 

    • hutch1197-av says:

      Charlotte did emphatically point out that Miranda was married, and my take from that scene this actually was Charlotte’s biggest qualm with the whole situation, moreso than the progressive issue.

    • saharatea-av says:

      Oh, I didn’t realize David Eigenberg was only making limited appearances. Maybe we’ll get a scene where Steve admits he’s been sleeping with someone else too, because his character’s absence is so glaring. I hate the way they are making this all about Miranda’s wants and needs.

      • absinthefriends-av says:

        I’m wondering if Steve has someone on the side, and he and Miranda will fess up, and decide to stay together as a family while pursuing outside relationships. I know several middle-aged couples like this. They’re no longer sleeping together but they’re still deeply bonded and want to continue sharing their lives.

      • yllehs-av says:

        Maybe Steve is really busy working at the bar to increase his income now that Miranda is going to school.

  • graymangames-av says:

    OK, concerning Miranda and Steve, I need to tell a personal story…

    I was in a long-term relationship with a bisexual woman and, over time, she gradually realized she was more attracted to women then men. I could sense it, but we didn’t feel comfortable talking about it for a while. She didn’t really talk about her thoughts and feelings in general, which is a whole other topic, but anyway…

    The final year of our relationship, she’d go on these rants about how men were the worst, men suck, etc etc. They weren’t about me, per se, but given the circumstances I realize now she was venting her frustration. I felt like she was villainizing me to make herself feel better. She ended up breaking up with me one Friday morning before a con she was traveling to ‘cause she wanted to hook up with her female friends with impunity, and a good mutual friend of ours put her foot down when she found out. “You have to break up with him or I’ll lose all respect for you,” the friend said. My now-ex shunted me off to the friend for comfort as she literally left me behind.

    If she’d just sat me down and explained her feelings, I’d have been hurt but I’d have understood. Not like either of us could control it. But not considering my feelings at all and making me out as the one at fault for something beyond my control is a pain I can scarcely describe.

    So looking at this show and how it just ignores Steve, it makes me angry. Steve isn’t perfect, but he’s a human being, too. He deserves better than his wife and mother of his son cheating on him behind his back. And to dress that up in a coming out narrative feels especially gross.

    • martincrane-av says:

      I’m so, so sorry you had to experience that. ♥️
      I’ve always hated this about coming out narratives that involve married people, right back to Friends’ constant mockery of Ross for being uncomfortable around the person whose affair ended his marriage. It’s terrible that so many queer people feel/felt trapped in comphet relationships (I know from experience), but we’re badly over-correcting if we use that as an excuse to hurt people with impunity. If you can’t truly love the person you’re with and have to leave, that doesn’t make them any less worthy of your care & respect.
      Steve gave Miranda 20 years of love, friendship and respect. He came to support her at her mother’s funeral when they weren’t even dating. Even the worst mistake he ever made, he came clean to her and put in the work to repair things between them. He has no reason to believe she’s not happy, so there’s nothing he can do about it. He’s going to be completely blindsided and it breaks my heart. I want to be happy for her, and I guess I am, but I’m sadder for him.Just a sidenote but I also hate that they’re following the theme of “domesticity = death” that ended Carrie & Aiden and almost broke up her marriage to Big in SATC 2. Weeknights eating ice cream and watching Netflix with my partner are absolute blessings, but it’s written like we’re supposed to find it tragic for Miranda. I don’t understand why someone in their mid 50’s would expect/want to be still be having wild nights out constantly.

    • Bazzd-av says:

      Miranda did the same thing to the Blair Underwood character too on her way to figuring out that Steve was the love of her life. The difference is they were so self-aware of the racial politics they gave him an orgy with some models to pad the landing. I think Steve will come out of this fine, especially with how hard Charlotte and Carrie are fighting Miranda on her choices and how self-destructive they’re treating her decisions.I also think Cynthia Nixon has personalized this story a bit, so it’ll probably be more complicated and messy than a traditional sitcom narrative.

    • jimmygoodman562-av says:

      I know someone who was married for years and when they were having marital difficulties, he finally admitted he was gay. They divorced amicably but there was still damage there. People seem to only focus on one side of the coin here. Yes, it’s great someone was able to come out and be themselves and should be celebrated (which was the treatment he got) but there is still a betrayal of the significant other who never knew. It’s one thing to stay in the closet which is not a problem in itself but when you go into a relationship and not inform you S.O. it’s a bad look. Your situation reminded me of this.

      • graymangames-av says:

        I think the part that hurt the most wasn’t my ex treating me like that, it was friends who acted like the relationship “didn’t count” because she came out as gay. “Well, she was a lesbian. Means it wasn’t your fault, was it?”

        They weren’t there. Everything that was good and bad in our relationship (on both our parts) still happened and it still mattered as far as I was concerned. I think being “ignored to death” is the part I still dwell on now.

      • drifloon-av says:

        This happened to one of my relatives as well.  As a gay man, I picked up on her husband being gay within about a second of meeting him, but with how conservative my family is I never said anything.  It was so obvious to me that I actually assumed she knew.  He finally came out recently after quite a few years together.  All things considered she took it fairly well, but she still was like, “I love and support you, but you robbed me of my child-bearing years.” 

    • uwilks-av says:

      There’s still time in the show. This is new for Miranda so she’s probably trying to figure it out. I do hope they give Miranda and Steve a good conversation, preferably sooner than later. I also found Che’s leaving immediately after very strange and probably a red flag. 

  • akhippo-av says:

    I was wondering what they used to get Cynthia Nixon back, and whoop – there it is: a truck full of money and a chance to pad the resume. Directing tv shows for hire once you age out of the money roles but aren’t old enough yet for the fun crone roles, is a good move. 

  • ryanj2727-av says:

    I don’t think Charlotte was out of line at all.  Miranda is being incredibly selfish, just like Carrie was in that scene you referenced. Considering the whole first movie is based around Steve having sex with someone else, Miranda is just a fraud at this point.  

  • Audacityscape-av says:

    Haven’t seen the ep yet but it seems pretty obvious to me that this Che storyline is going to end with Miranda getting heartbroken. Nothing about Che says that they are interested in an actual relationship… More the thrill of pulling Miranda out of the closet. Plus, in what world do newly out queer people end up with the first person they have a relationship with? Miranda’s got a lot of exploring to do.

    • hutch1197-av says:

      There’s a preview of next week’s episode where Miranda is fretting that Che is not returning her texts. So, you may very well have called it.

    • avc-kip-av says:

      in what world do newly out queer people end up with the first person they have a relationship with?Mayor Pete is one.

  • barbaradedrew-av says:

    “(I also liked Carrie’s respectful question about whether it would be appropriate for her to wear a sari)”The question was respectful, but she still somehow made a joke out of the outfit with her 55 year old bare midriff and ridiculous hair flowers. She still wore it like a costume for attention, so it was pretty cringey. 

    • sarahmas-av says:

      I feel like when I see women wearing saris, I see lots of lovely older women of all shapes and sizes rocking the bare midriff. Why not? And I liked her hair flowers! They were very true to the character and her style.

      • swearingisencouraged-av says:

        I married into a Bengali family and wearing a sari without the drape cloth is very inappropriate. You don’t get to pick and choose which parts of a sari to wear based on how hot you look, or I woulda done it. 🙂

      • barbaradedrew-av says:

        Carrie just seems to make all choices with the purpose of being the center of attention.  It’s exhausting.  And I felt like the more normal thing to do would be to wear a nice sari that would “blend in” so to speak.  Rather than, hey everyone, look at this costume I’m wearing!  Kind of applies to everything Carrie wears always though – so who knows. 

    • Bazzd-av says:

      “Her 55 year old bare midriff”YEEE-ikes. Didn’t even think about that before writing it, huh?

    • themarketsoftener-av says:

      https://news.yahoo.com/indian-aunties-review-carrie-sari-215104010.htmlJust one family’s opinions, but an interesting read.

    • hutch1197-av says:

      I would imagine if Seema or her parents had an issue with Carrie’s outfit, they would have said something to her. Also, just curious: Would Carrie’s midriff be less offensive if it were 35? I mean, your issue is JUST the midriff, right?

    • starfishcoffee-av says:

      I thought she looked like she was going to the Met Ball. 

  • cjob3-av says:

    “Well, I saw a Suri back there that I really culturally appreciated!” This reminded me of one of Jimmy’s talk show jokes on the new South Park.

  • woogsack-av says:

    “In an ever-changing world, Charlotte remains the same old Charlotte, railing against her friends’ decisions when they venture out from the staid privileged pasture she resides in. (Let us never forget her freakout upon catching Carrie and Big leaving a midtown hotel while he was married and she was with Aidan.)“Call me hopelessly bourgeois, but I don’t think that cheating on your spouse ought to be praised as an act of fearless liberation from societal constraints.

    • youngjeune1-av says:

      Agreed. I haven’t watched AJLT (I’m not sure that I will). As a Carrie/Big fan, I understood and thought SATC did a very good job with the complications and nuances…Yes, Charlette could be judgmental but I agreed with her when it came to Carrie’s and Big’s affair.

    • hutch1197-av says:

      Charlotte’s reaction to catching Carrie and Big would be just about any friend’s reaction. That wasn’t judgement at all. She was appalled. 

    • razzle-bazzle-av says:

      Indeed. It has nothing to do with a staid privileged pasture. She’s exactly right.

  • oneeyedjill-av says:

    Took me a minute to recognize him in modern garb, but Nya’s husband is Shy Baldwin from Mrs. Maisel!

  • pomking-av says:

    Why does Carrie have a dog bed on her head? 

  • mrdalliard123-av says:

    “As a vet of infertility treatments, I really liked this dinner scene; having to force enthusiasm for your friend who’s just announced she’s pregnant again while you’re still struggling is a social tightrope I had to walk many times.”I’m going through some guilty feelings myself right now. My sister has been trying fertility treatments over the past year. She wanted to become pregnant so badly. Unfortunately about a month ago my mother told me that she texted her saying that it’s pretty clear she will never be able to become pregnant due to issues with her uterus. I feel so bad, as I know she wanted to experience pregnancy. I’m tempted to offer to be a surrogate for them if her wife doesn’t want to try IVF or thsyey don’t want to adopt, as I have been able to get pregnant in the past and I have a few more years left of possible fertility, but I want to wait for the right time to ask. She and her wife are great aunties to my son, and they take such good care of their other nieces and nephews as well. I would love to see them be able to start their own family someday.

  • higgeldypiggeldy-av says:

    Enjoyed a laugh at the Madame Alexander dolls, of which I still have a collection given to me by my grandmother (and that Spanish doll was my fave). One of the many humbling parts of child-rearing is happily sharing your very most favorite-ever super awesome thing from childhood (toy, game, movie, song) and the kids HATE it.

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