DC’s Legends Of Tomorrow comes to an end (but probably not)
Think of "Knocked Down, Knocked Up" as Legends: Endgame, only with 100% more Donald Faison.
TV Reviews Legends of Tomorrow
The seventh season of DC’s Legends Of Tomorrow has been a fraught game of tug-of-war. On one side: The deterministic philosophy of the cruel Gideon artificial intelligence. On the other: That chaotic-good band of buffoons history calls the Legends Of Tomorrow. Only one could ever win this contest, and as Gary Green went flying out an airlock into the temporal zone with his fellow Legends scattered to the winds to enjoy their own personal happily-ever-afters, last week we sure were under the impression that Mean-Gideon had won. With her human counterpart locked in as captain of the Waverider, the timeline appeared to be safe from the Legends’ particular brand of giddy chaos.
Throughout the course of seven seasons, the Legends have been tasked not to interfere with the timeline even when their hearts commanded otherwise. Rules, not sentiment, keep the timeline of the Arrowverse intact—but when the Legends found themselves stranded in the culturally repressed year of 1925 at the beginning of this season (in Odessa, Texas, of all places), maintaining the sanctity of the timeline with injustice and oppression all around them wound up being far too much to accept. Their breaks from the timeline, big-hearted though they may have been, put them at odds with a rogue Gideon AI and her compliment of robo-Legend commandos. Those robots put up one hell of a fight, but in the end the Legends came out on top. All that remained was Gideon. (The mean one.)
It’s been a wild, emotional ride. And there’s an added metatextual wrinkle to this temporal rollercoaster: The lack of a season eight renewal at The CW, which has hovered over the latter half of this season like a cloud of bad vibes. This uncertainty colors this week’s finale, titled “Knocked Down, Knocked Up” for reasons we’ll get into, especially after you pair it with the sudden (if *sob* somewhat expected?) departure of Dr. Nate Heywood, the Legend formerly known as Steel.
Nate’s tenure as a Legend has been extraordinary, but this week it is time to say goodbye. (Loathe as I am to accept it; did Nate need to leave?) As for the rest of his Legends, they begin the natural progression of their very regular lives away from the responsibilities of protecting the timeline. You’d think beginning a new life post-Waverider might be a difficult thing for Captain Sara Lance and her crew (considering… everything they’ve been through) but Wednesday nights have instead become the home for a new kind of routine for the Waverider crew—and it’s far less wacky than the scenario to which we’re accustomed.
It’s Dinner Night at the House Of Mystery, where the Legends find a little time to unwind from their hum-drum normal lives to share future plans (Sara and Ava want to start a family!), dodge new responsibilities (Nate’s not writing his historical tome!) and tamp down on how generally miserable everybody is now that the timeline has been left in the capable hands of Gideon and her not-so trusty AI, Mean-Gideon. (How’s 1925 going for you, Spooner?)
Even Gideon is feeling uneasy with the new arrangements. Early on she stops a small crew of well-meaning time travelers from amending the U.S. Constitution before it’s even ratified, a job well done even if she feels a little raw about chastising people who only want to make the world a better place… just like her former fellow Legends. Wistful, possibly heartbroken, and not so eager to deal with the next anachronism to come her way, we see that adjusting to her AI’s strict codes of conduct has driven Gideon to drink, which is consistent with the series’ laissez-faire approach to boozing.
Only not everyone is celebrating with booze these days. Sipping apple juice at the former Legends’ dinner table Sara and Ava announce that they’re finally planning on having a baby, a development that is later superseded by the revelation that Sara is actually pregnant, right now, this minute. (Thanks to her half-Kriblix DNA, apparently all Sara had to do to achieve this was smooch Ava and think of babies. Legends!) This is arguably the biggest thing to happen to Legends Of Tomorrow since it began, hyperbole notwithstanding; Legends has (almost) always been a show about finding the family you need, and Sara and Ava’s impending bun in the oven adds to their impending domesticity that this season of Legends has been quietly building towards all season long. Our time-traveling kids are finally growing up. (Also: The fetus is absorbing Sara’s powers which has rendered her vulnerable, even to champagne foil.)
This low-key life for the Legends might have stuck, too, if it weren’t for Dr. Gwyn Davies, who discovered last week that his beloved Alun—whose death became the sole reason why Gwyn invented time travel in the first place—had been replicated by Mean-Gideon. Gwyn rendered his robo-beau obsolete last week, which gave him an opportunity to seize fate on his own terms: Traveling back to that fateful day in Mametz Wood, France, the battleground of The Great War where Alun lost his life, Gwyn wants to plant this mechanical fraud in the very place where Alun died so that Gwyn can take him elsewhere to live a happier life far away from time and trouble.
Of course, it’s not going to be that simple. The battle of Mametz Wood turns out to be another Fixed Point, just like the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, and where there’s a Fixed Point… there’s a Fixer.
Cue “Here Comes The Hotstepper,” because DC’s Legends Of Tomorrow certainly does. With Ini Kamoze’s prom-time 1994 hit blasting through our televisions, Donald Faison struts onto the green of Mametz Wood (and the Arrowverse for good measure) as DC’s resident time-traveling goof, Booster Gold. (Skeets wasn’t available this go-around.) Calling himself “Mike,” Booster smacks a few blue and gold star-spangled balls across the war-torn fields (golf is how he passes the time as this WWI Fixer) and quickly finds himself at odds with history’s greatest heroes, the Legends.
Booster Gold’s sudden appearance seems to imply that there is a desire within The CW for an eighth season of DC’s Legends Of Tomorrow. We don’t know. For now, Booster’s heel-turn, which comes after he discovers that his time overlords have given him a thankless job because he may not be the bitchin’ time-traveling dude he thinks he is, comes amid a finale that is already busy wrapping up an emotional arc that bids farewell to a Legend as well as the villain who has blighted the crew’s happiness all season long. Booster is an exciting proposition for the future of the series (after all, he is Rip Hunter’s dad), and his double-double cross at the end of the episode sets up crazy things for the series. But right now, Legends has to take care of itself.
“He should have been content with what I gave him,” Gideon tells her former colleagues once they’ve decided to make the temporal leap to save their friend Gwyn. “This was cleaner. The way it was meant to happen.” It’s that war of philosophies rearing its head once again: Is the timeline supposed to be immutable, or is there room for change? That Alun is walking the sleek confines of the Waverider by the end of the episode and the mean version of Gideon is not implies that DC’s Legends Of Tomorrow wants to break away from the strict laws of time and space to make room for love and acceptance. That fits. It’s fiction. And fiction is where we find our hope these days.
Yet hope isn’t reserved for just us viewers. There’s that bit towards the end of this week’s episode, where Nate and Sara and the rest of the Legends bid each other farewell, for now. “I’m ready for that part of life after being a hero,” Nate says, fading away to join Flannel Zari for a quieter life far away from anachronisms and Legions Of Doom and Time Masters and Reverse-Flashes and Beebos and other such extravagances. For Nate (as well as Nick Zano) the future is a calmer place; when he finally bids adieu to his crewmates we get the feeling that he’s saying goodbye to us, as well.
“Later, Legends.”
Adios, Nate.
Stray Observations
- Season’s MVL: Gideon. When Amy Pemberton finally made the leap from voice actor to a series fixture as the human version of Gideon, we all went crazy for her (especially Gary). Pemberton has revealed multitudes of range and talent during this rambunctious season, belting out songs at Zari’s impromptu speakeasy party and generally being a wonderful addition to an ever-growing cadre of Legends. May Amy’s run be long.
- I will genuinely miss Nick Zano on this show. Once Mick departed Legends, Nate Heywood became Sara’s defacto buddy/confidante outside of Ava. Who is going to drink with the Waverider captain now that… oh, yeah!
- Will Gary’s advancement of caveman door technology alter the timeline in any substantial way? Probably not. Legends!
- “You two are the best mom and friend that a girl conjured out of circuits could have ever hoped for.”
- “Yes! I am reveling in joy right now! Goodbye!” Caity Lotz is a treasure.
- Gwyn’s words of valor: “Beyond this place of wrath and tears looms but the horror of the shade. And yet the years shall find me unafraid.” How is Matt Ryan not a movie star?
- Mustard gas, eradicator of expensive superpowers everywhere? If Nate is really gone from Legends Of Tomorrow, why go to the extra trouble of finding a way to get rid of his superpowers—OH.
- “I wonder if there’s chocolate sauce on board.” “Oh, Gary!”
- So what did you think of this season finale of DC’s Legends Of Tomorrow, group? If there’s an eighth season, how will Donald Faison fit into the scheme of things as Booster Gold? Will we ever see Nate and Flannel Zari again? (Or Mick, for that matter?) Sound off in the comments below.
- Oh, and one more thing: This is my final dispatch as Legends recapper for The A.V. Club! It has been an absolute pleasure to join you every week as we bounced from one point in time to the next. Thank you for being patient with me as I found my bearings as a born-again Legends follower, and thank you for all your comments and feedback along the way. Each of you made me a better recapper (I think/hope) and you made the experience that was season seven of DC’s Legends Of Tomorrow a richer and more hilarious one. Later, Legends!
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Nate was not my favorite Legend, but he is on my all-time Legends dream team line-up, which tvline had people vote on a few years ago. My current roster:SaraAvaNate Zari PrimeRay MickSnartAstrahttps://tvline.com/2020/05/19/legends-of-tomorrow-character-cast-exits-photos-list-ranked/
I’m going to say it. I didn’t like Nate. In and of himself he was fine, but every time they put him next to a woman he took over her storyline. When they put him with Amaya, her storyline of having to return to the past became his storyline of how sad he was about it. When they put him with Zari 1.0, her storyline became about how she was in love with him. And now at the end, his leaving stripped Zari 2.0 of her super powers.
Thank you. The biggest problem with Nate wasn’t Nate, it was the constant stream of Nate + love interest that took way too much story time.
Maybe the amulet can double up again?
That was my issue too, Nate serial romances sucked up a lot of oxygen often to the detriment of other characters. Zano was at his best as the goofy buddy.
I admire you for being able to choose a lineup, I tried when TVLine had the vote, and I just couldn’t do it lmao
Well mine keeps changing. That is my lineup for today with Astra taking a spot largely based on this episode
It is kind of funny that Nate was initially supposed to be BFFs with Behrad but eventually his chemistry with Tala Ashe won out & his relationship with Zari 2.0 became the much more significant one The Astra-Spooner-Gideon relationship becoming the heart of the team was not something that I expected but I totally buy it & am into it
Yeah the Nate/Zari 2.0 dynamic settled in a good place once they got over the initial weirdness. I am super happy they kept human Gideon instead of somehow reloading her back into the Waverider.
A lesser show would have had a Nate/Zari/Zari love triangle, whichever way that swings.
I think a Zari-Zari romance would be very in keeping with Zari’s personality at least, though maybe less so for Zari.
From the context it is clear what you mean, & I agree
The second they do something to Astra/Gideon/Spoons there will be war. The show will not touch them, they are precious and must be protected.
I loved Astra hugging her pocket Bffs!
I had a mini heart attack when the Waverider blew up.
Spponeer and Astras integration into the team ahs been seemless. Impossible to think that Astra has been around since season 4.
This show is so good at the team building and bringing characters on board. It is impossible for me to believe that the team once did not have either Zari or Ava
I have been consistently surprised how well put-together season 7 has been. The show peaked around season 3 for me, and though I’ve enjoyed everything since it’s been slightly ever diminishing returns, with season 6 being a bit more noticeable due to COVID impacts. Season 7 proves there’s still gas in the tank, far more than The Flash and Arrow at this point, and I’m cautiously optimistic we get season 8 because getting carted off to time jail is a horrible way to end the series.What bugs me about Nate’s departure (and Mick’s as well last year) is it feels like an afterthought in a pretty jam-packed episode. Not that it hasn’t been teased and foreshadowed for awhile, but the actual execution at the end feels like another plot point for the script to tidy up before moving on. Also a bit miffed they chose to lose the wind totem as well, leaving Astra as the only member with any budget-eating superpowers.Donald Faison isn’t the Booster I imagined, but he seems like a pretty good fit for the team. I will surrender Nate’s Steel VFX budget if it means we get a decent CG Skeets next year.Gary building his own door was a clever bit of writing. Again to credit this season’s writing, I enjoyed how the Spooner/Astra/Gideon relationship came full circle.
Behrad still has his totem, so the effects aren’t gone. You are right about Nate’s exit. Compared to what Ray got, it’s a world of difference. It’s ironic that Brandon Routh was done dirty behind the scenes but got a beautiful sendoff on screen, but actors who left on their own terms got perfunctory exits.
Arrow ended over 2 years ago!
I meant Arrow at this point in its run, ie. Arrow’s Season 7. Arrow managed to come back and end on a high with Season 8, but the show was already petering out by season 6.
That’s true. Arrow petered out after Season 2, to be honest. Though perhaps that’s not quite true. Seasons 3 and 4 were a different breed of terrible than the exhaustion and burnout of 6 and 7.
Yeah, there’s a difference between “misguided” and “worn out”…
Seasons 3 and 4 went all in. On terrible stories, but at least they went all in!
Agreed.
Arrow didn’t so much “peter out after” season 2, as “fail to match the absolute perfection of”.
well I mean TECHNICALLY they’re still correct , but yeah.
“What bugs me about Nate’s departure (and Mick’s as well last year) is it feels like an afterthought in a pretty jam-packed episode.”It pretty much is. brought on by family issues. His son had a very troubled birth with attendant medical issues.
Nate was an example of the sort of lazy writing that annoys me on this show. It often seems as though the writers think of a point they want to reach, and then just say that it happens – without the actual execution the even should have. In this case they didn’t really even explain it: yes, I understand that this makes sense for Nate’s arc, losing his powers like this might be what triggers him to retire. But there’s absolutely no show-internal reason why he’d go from “maybe I ought to retire!” to “I must leave my friends THIS MINUTE, abandoning them in the middle of WWI with no escape plan!”. It’s like there’s an arrow on a board somewhere between “Nate loses steel skin” and “Nate leaves Legends”, and I don’t disagree with the arrow as a logical connection, I just think they have to actually write some words or scenes to embody that arrow on screen rather than skipping from the first to the second.
[Speaking of things missing: I don’t expect the writers to remember every previous episode. But this is the second epic finale Sara and Nate have spent on the front lines of WWI, and you’d think one of them would at least have a wry aside the repetition! When a show at least pays lip-service to its own continuity, it makes the audience care more about it as well! [speaking of which: the original pilot mentioned that it was Vandal Savage who persuaded Princip to assassinate the Archduke, the event the Legends spent multiple episodes dealing with this season – missed a great cameo opportunity there, Legends writers!]
Read an article the other that that Zach Braff should be Skeets and I’m here for it.
Is Nate just living in the totem in the future? How is that not a anomaly?Looks like Gideon is becoming Lawful Evil.So Ava will be the mom.Gwyn buys it. So who’s the fixer?Nope, my original theory was right. Sara is pregnant with Ava’s baby.So Sara’s baby will have rapid healing. Do we know of a superhero from the future that she could be?Hmmm…I’m betting that robot Gideon will be killed, and living Gideon will have to go back into the ship. (Evil Gideon Dead. Half complete.) (Nope, she’s not back in the ship.)Liking Booster’s entrance.Yes, because the Time Wraiths seem like…things…that would play a joke like that.Well, that’s completely in character from what I know of Booster Gold.Beardless Gwyn is a handsome man.Is Nate going to die? This seems like a setup for him to die. (Okay, he didn’t die.) ….Why did Zari give up her totem since Nate apparently didn’t need it?Mad that they took her powers away. I like her being a hero that uses her social skills, but they didn’t need to take away her super powers. (Maybe it’s because of Zari in Black Adam.)
Beardless Gwyn’s hair is….hotNate being gone makes me sad, and I’ll miss him, but I’m excited for what’s to (hopefully) come.Gideon saying “You’re the best mom and friend” is WRONG. Spoons is her mother too. Avalance baby came out of nowhere for me, but I’m excited!!! Sara’s freakout was absolutely hilarious.
Caity Lotz is so funny, along with being the best in the action scenes, her character having the most dramatic/ tragic backstory, and her relationship being the best one in the ArrowVerse. A lot of elements make the show so great, but none of it works without her. I am so glad that she is not apparently leaving the show, despite the rumors about her giving up her Vancouver apartment
I feel like when Sara/Ava leave (because of course they’d leave together) the show will end. You can’t just have one without the other.I will admit I was scared when I saw that Caity was selling her apartment, but thankful she’s not leaving. My theory is that if(they better) there’s a Season 8 renewal, that’ll be the last season. I think that would be a good ending point, although if it was up to me, it’d be as long as Grey’s Anatomy.
I am in no hurry for the show to end & it still seems strong creatively, & many characters like Astra and Spooner and Behrad only starting to realize their potential. But nothing lasts forever & if they get next season as a final season I could accept that. NOT having a planned final season it would be difficult for me to accept.
Beardless Gwyn is a handsome man.I kept thinking that must’ve been the last thing they shot for the season, and Matt Ryan’s busy growing his beard back right now.
He definitely should shave his beard and keep the mustache, young Gwyn looked HOT
I assume the beard was a creative choice to distinguish Gwyn from Constantine, and I think it worked quite well in that respect. I wonder if they can take the beard off now without creating that dissonance.
Plus I’d also think that Matt appreciated not having to bleach his hair constantly to keep up with being Johnny C.
Re: Zari’s totem… I don’t know why she had to give it to Nate, and I don’t really understand how he can possess the totem while being inside the totem. Did the totem also go inside the totem? Next time Nate/Flannel Zari exit the totem, where will they be?
“I don’t know why she had to give it to Nate, and I don’t really understand how he can possess the totem while being inside the totem. Did the totem also go inside the totem? Next time Nate/Flannel Zari exit the totem, where will they be?”I was wondering about this too! Part of my brain is insisting “forget it, it’s Legends, just go with it” but I am curious.
I was wondering about that as well. At first I thought the totem would reappear where it last existed, and they would be stuck in 1916. But my guess is the totem is linked to Behrad’s half and will reappear wherever and whenever he happens to be.
Hmmm, that could work as a classic hand-wavy Legends explanation …
I definitely turned off my brain as soon as they started talking about paradoxes… but the moment Nate went into the totem and the totem also went into the totem… I couldn’t help myself. I have a million questions.
It’s totems all the way down!
So Sara’s baby will have rapid healing. Do we know of a superhero from the future that she could be?
I’m thinking they baby has only taken the healing ability from Sara while in utero and Sara will have it back post partem. Though I suppose the kid could also inherit the power in addition to that.
I love Donald Faison as Booster Gold, but how (if at all) will they square away him being Arthur Darvill’s dad?
Crisis.
To be honest, I think it makes perfect sense in a Terminator 2 way of Booster Gold’s kid being the guy who assembled the Legends who are legends in his timeline so he could go and join them. Maybe Booster left his British wife and kid behind to do time travel shenanigans which led Rip – after his wife and child got killed (praise Beebo, how I don’t miss him repeating that every single episode) – to become a time master himself.
Or just ignore it. Its not like comics canon or continuity matters for the show. Its always about character chemistry and potential gags.
Betting on either adoptive father or step-father.
yeah, I still need my time travel fuckups to come back.-Fancy!Zari isn’t leaving, right? Just going totemless? weird but let’s keep her.-curious to see where they can get BrOTP energy from with Nate retired. Sara+Nate stepped into a lot of the void left by Nate+Ray and Sara+Mick this season…maybe B+Gary would work? we need at least as much bro-ing as coupling. at least Astra+Spoons and Ava+Fancy!Zari are still around.-if they do get a final season renewal, I hope we get some old cast visits/crossovers towards the end.
Re: BrOTP energy: Don’t forget they potentially have Booster Gold boarding the Waverider next season, too. In an interview/podcast I saw recently, Faison also said he was interested in getting Zach Braff to play Booster’s BFF, Ted Kord. Though I don’t think the CW would be able to get someone like Braff.
Also we still have Alun on board and I hope he stays because I want Gynn to stay and I want Gwynn to be happy. So we have at least 2 new bros, who can find BrOTP energy together.
I do hope Gwyn stays; I’m a big fan of having people from different time periods (/cultures/species/etc) in the crew, and I really think his early-20th-century old school ways add something good to the crew (as well as a source of jokes).
Based on things recently said on the podcast, as long as Braff doesn’t have to quarantine for an extended period of time, I think he would do one episode for Donald. But I don’t think he’d stay in Vancouver for a long period of time. They’re best buddies, remember Braff even showed up on Donald’s sitcom, The Exes.
I’m curious if they’d be able to get Ted Kord now, as Brandon Routh was originally supposed to be Kord (to pay off all the Kord Industries teases in Arrow) and got re-written to Ray Palmer – who very much had the comic personality of Ted anyway. Maybe since Booster was available the development for his solo series is done and that frees up Ted.
Faison joining the cast makes a lot more sense now that we know Zano is leaving. And re: Braff, if availability is an issue, maybe he doesn’t have to be Ted Kord and be there in person. He would still be terrific as Skeets!
Came here to say the same thing. Skeets with Chicken Little’s voice is perfect casting.
he certainly has the fucking things up part of being a Legend down already! I haven’t actually seen Scrubs, but he sounds fun.
My first thought was that they could get Braff to play Skeets because he would only have to commit to the voice, but obviously him appearing live as Ted Lord would be fantastic.
One thing that strikes me, with Nate leaving: it’s not just that the crew cycles out, it’s that they’ve built an almost entirely new crew that’s not been around for long:- Behrad, Astra, Ava and Fancy Zari joined in S5 (Ava was main cast in S4, but only a Legend from S5; Behrad only credited as main from S6)
– Spooner joined in S6
– Gary became an alien, main cast member and Legend in S6
– Gideon became human in S7
– Gwynn joined in S7
– Booster Gold is presumably joining for S8If there ends up being an 8th series, Sara will now not just be the only original Legend, she’ll be the only full-time Legend from anywhere in the first HALF of the show’s history! [And I wouldn’t be surprised if, after a baby plotline in S8, she retires into motherhood for S9 – though I really hope she doesn’t]
To be honest, I’m a little hesitant about this, because it’s a packed crew, and kind of in an awkward space now: I don’t see the new guys going anywhere soon, but I also think they’re out of the ‘fresh blood’ stage. I’m not sure there’s much more to be milked out of most of them at this point, and I’d love to meet some new characters. A couple of aliens, a Victorian, a hippie from the 60s and some futuristic space pirates, please!In particular: do any of them have any of their own plot left? Gideon has potential, I don’t know what’s going on with her now. Behrad and Fancy Zari were there to produce a timeline paradox, which now doesn’t matter since Nate’s gone. Ava is there as a potential love interest for Sara – well, they have a baby on the way. Astra has to shake off the trauma of being queen of hell and adjust to ‘normal’ life – she seems pretty well-adjusted now. Spooner had her thing about being abducted by aliens, losing her mother – now she knows what happened, has her mother again, seems pretty cool with the whole aliens thing. Gary had a plot about being an alien, being forgiven by the Legends and accepted, and now he’s one of the team, happily tentacly and with a girlfriend on the team. Gwynn had the need to rescue Alan, who is now rescued. And Sara had getting revenge (outgrown) and more generally regaining her humanity after multiple deaths and assassinhood. Well, she seems pretty chill now.Of course, most of the episodes come out of things that happen to these characters. But good arcs generally come out of internal needs and drama, and all the characters now seem pretty happy, pretty well-adjusted, and with their central dilemmas largely resolved. [this episode could easily have been rewritten as a series finale and I don’t think it would have felt as though anyone had a big character development plot still hanging?] This is partly why the series feels like a fun place to hang out with friends now, but it’s also why it doesn’t have the same urgency and plot drive that it used to have. I’d like a little bit of that back!
I think the show gets a season 8. They haven’t announced bc they’re still hammering shit out – and it is, too be fair, complicated shit. I really enjoyed this season. Up against the others, this had its own vibe. They saved fx for the finale and it was good stuff: many booms, frozen time, Astra’s fall-through-the-floor (signature?) move … loved it.I think – they’re setting up Fancy Zari for new improved superpowers. Can she actually become Isis – or is that name dead forever? The show could go into the Totem, meet the Tarazi family, and find secret doors to other religions & mythologies. Keep it going WB!
I think part of the concern is that they started filming season 7 halfway into season 6 airing, but that was because of lockdowns really screwing up the schedule.
6 & 7 almost should count as one giant season.
I really think the stuck-in-time aspect of the first part of the season helped. We’ve done so many one-off time and space travels over the years that it felt refreshing to stay in the 20s and deal with that for a whole arc. plus I <3 the Bullet Blondes.
This episode hit me in the feels. I really hope it gets renewed for a season 8.If it does get renewed, I hope Donald Faison gets to wear a proper super suit at some point.
I know I’m in the minority , but there was a reason I started being less and less interested in the show after Season 4 , and that’s because it stopped being that really cool , funny show about weird C list DC characters , and just ended up losing most of its members and just became (I cant believe I’m saying this ) too silly ..and too wrapped up in pairing off the members that were left .I mean I know a lot of people are into shipping characters , but I’m just not that interested, and when they lost Mick Rory , I stopped watching Booster Gold though ? Praise Beebo! I’d be back watching for him (and Faison is a perfect ..well as long as you handwave away how Arthur Darvill’s character is his son ..but hey 30th century technology is the new A Wizard Did it)
I think seasons 5 and 6 were also weaker than 2-4. It was still generally fun and zany, but I would say the writing overall just wasn’t as strong, regardless of who was on the team.Season 7 has been IMO a very noticeable improvement and to my point, nothing has really changed. Other than Gwyn (and Mick no longer being on the team), the team is basically the same roster as last year. It’s still about time travel, shenangians, messing things up for the better, etc. but everything just fired on all cylinders this year. It would be a high note to go out on, but dammit, I want to see more Booster Gold.
I love how sad I was when Mick decided to leave, but I barely felt his absence this season……
I enjoyed Constantine as a character and Ryan’s performance, but I can’t deny that Legends is stronger when it’s about time travel rather than magic. It was like Constantine had a gravitational pull on the stories and they couldn’t escape becoming more about him. I’m glad they found a way to keep Ryan while balancing the cast and stories more.
I’m watching S2 at the moment for comparison, and later series do have
some advantages over it: they don’t take themselve so seriously, and
there’s come to be a really enjoyable, hang-out-with-friends feel to the
show. But the flip side of that is that the back half of S2 was able to deliver episode after episode that felt epic and dramatic,
and moments of great pathos that didn’t emerge out of platitudes or
unearned claims but out of genuine character development. [the show also
took more care to make sense, and took few shortcuts in the writing
that it does now; we now have fewer clunky-cheesy lines, but more clunky-shortcut lines.]On thing that strikes me is that in later seasons it’s hard for me to pick out many individual episodes and remember what happened in them, whereas with S2 I’m thinking “oh yeah, that’s the one where [3 or 4 memorable things] happened!”[for instance, I just saw ‘Moonshot’. The plot is pretty cheesy and derivative (it’s intentionally an homage). But it has two of my favourite bits from the show: a glimpse into the humanity of Thawne as he chats menacingly-but-amiably with temporary-coworker Ray, and at the other end of the dramatic spectrum Stein singing the Banana Boat Song. But it also has a dramatic sacrifice and death of a recurring character, and major backstory-establishment for Nate (and for Hank when he eventually shows up), big plot arc progress for Nate and Amaya, serious reflection on the nature and consequences of time travel, plot development for Rip and Sara, and small but meaningful progress in the season arc itself… it’s hilarious, moderately exciting, emotional, useful for the plot – and it’s not even a standout episode in its season!]Seriously, 8 of the back 9 episodes of S2 are classics, and even the one that isn’t (Camelot/3000) is fun (Sara seduces Guinevere, Mick mind-controls Stein, Rip has an army of zombies (effectively), Damian Darhk is sarcastic, Nate gets angry with Ray and Ray talks about the importance of legend and heroism….).
S2 is a high, for sure.
the show also took more care to make sense, and took few shortcuts in the writing that it does nowI love season 2, it’s my second favourite season particularly for delivering on the “Arrowverse crossover” aspect that the show lost in the later years. The only reason it’s not my absolute favourite (Season 3 takes that spot) is I actually think the writing still had too many plot holes and inconsistencies, especially to justify why Thawne doesn’t outright slaughter all the Legends. Thawne is about to impale Sara with the de-powered spear in the season finale and there’s literally nothing stopping him from doing so, which results in Matt Letscher doing this exaggerated wind up motion to stall for time until Black Flash appears. As much as I don’t like the team losing their super powers later on, it did make the series easier to write for to not have Firestorm or Wally around.
Unfortunately, speedsters are an automatic plot hole in any story, and yes, there are several times when Eobard could just have killed everybody. [particular un-favourite: the “speedster appears, and knocks everyone over in a split second, but doesn’t do any serious damage in the process”. Flash does this too].But at least, unlike any season of the Flash, Legends created a clever theoretical answer to that problem, which explains a reason why in theory Eobard might not have time to do certain things. And it’s a great solution! [replacing ‘paradox’ with ‘zombie Flash’ is conceptually cheesy, but makes sense in visual terms]. So instead of having to suspend disbelief of “why doesn’t he just XYZ!?”, we just have to suspend disbelief of “did he really not have another split second to spare before having to leave!?” – and I find I can handwave the latter away as a loose depiction of something that makes conceptual sense, whereas the former for me is an almost fatal plot hole. I’m more willing to accept a good answer that requires some fudging around the edges than I am no answer at all…S2 continually tried to offer plausible (if not completely convincing) explanations for what was going on, and what was and wasnt’ possible. Later seasons (and other arrowverse shows in general) tend not to bother offering any explanation at all, which I find frustating.
I remember thinking the finale was pretty nonsensical, and that the powers of the spear changed whenever the plot required it to. But I didn’t mind all that much because it was such a breath of fresh air after S1.
My thoughts exactly..season 2 also had Mick have a very strong arc before becoming easy beer and lazy gag joke humour in later seasons. I remember him having this strong friendship with Amaya which came after the death of Captain Cold. They nixed it a little to focus on Nate and Amaya but it was still there throughout the season and payed off in the finale.
That’s a good point. In fact there was a lot of emphasis on the different relationships in the earlier seasons – Mick also had a LOT of interplay with Stein that season, for instance. And of course, superficially there’s a lot of relationship stuff now too – but the difference is, now everything is “X and Y bicker for an episode, and then are Best Friends Forever”, which is cosy and warm and fun, but… honestly not as moving. In S2, the relationships felt much more specific to the characters – Mick/Amaya stands out because it’s not just “Amaya thinks Mick is a thug but after a very special episode warms up to him”, it’s a really delicate, gradual mutual discovery as these two really different people find common ground in their dissimilar but parallel experiences of marginalisation. Whereas in S7, not to harp on the “the writers take shortcuts” complaint, but… the writers take shortcuts. It feels as though they decide “these two are going to be friends now” so then they’re best friends forever. They also seem less interested in the specifics, and more in archetypes: so, for instance, because of Astra’s role in Gideon’s incarnation, she’s a bit like, metaphorically, a maternal figure to her in some ways… so the writers just say, “yep, she’s just her mum now”, erasing the interesting specificities in favour of a cuddly, familiar archetypal relationship.As for Mick and gags: there’s actually a lot of good Mick jokes in S2, which continually imply that the others look down on him and don’t see him as one of them. The difference is, the plot then takes those throwaway jokes across the whole of the season, and then takes them seriously from Mick’s point of view, making it into a pivotal plot arc. The jokes there aren’t just throwaway, they’re also emotionally significant and important to the plot, even though it doesn’t appear so at the time. The comedy works to enhance the plot; whereas sometimes in later seasons it really feels as though the plot is primarily there to facilitate the comedy.
Nailed it. I even remember Micks friendship with Ray (one of my fave gags on this show was Ray always bringing snacks) and that whole Cold replacement arc Mick was going through. Astra and Gideon is a perfect example. Alot of the narrative inbetween was missing (we got a bit here and there over the season but no conflict or struggle until the episode they decide it should happen). But then the execution was so sweet and it does make sense. I love Legends for what it is and has become but sometimes it does bother me that they get away with alot of narrative shortcuts because ‘oh so fun’. Other shows don’t have that luxury.
They need to bring in Zac Braff to play Ted Kord/Blue beetle.
Same with me. I stayed through season 5 and then just checked out. I did watch the 100th episode but outside of that, I’ve only kept up with the story through recaps on here.Maybe someday I’ll binge the whole show, but for now…
FWIW, I think the lowpoint is either S4 or S5; S6 is better than S5, and S7 is better than S6. I do think the show’s best years are behind it (without a change in direction again), but I think it’s actually on an upward swing at the moment.
Season 1 is the worst, of course. After that, yeah S4 was teetering on the edge of the stupidity event horizon.
S3 ending with the legends voltroning into a Bebbo Kaiju and Bodyslaming a demon to death was not juts a show high but Tv high moment for me….But it also set a precedent for silliness to try to reach and top.
That’s probably true – the writers saw how much we loved Beebo and other silly moments that season, and decided that’s what the show should be. Rather than realising that that’s what the show should occasionally be…
I think the biggest mistake they made was mistaking lightheartedness for complete silliness. Season 7 was tons of fun, though.
I agree. S4 in particular was pretty rough at times. It’s good to be able to laugh at yourself, but not if it stops the audience taking you seriously, and I think they were really on the edge of that in S4. Fortunately they pulled it back. [S5 had its own issues, mind you.]
Yea I said something similar last week – I liked that the show used minor comic characters and have not been the biggest fan of the recent trend of using characters not from the comics. I’m glad Booster Gold is here and Donald Faison should be great as him if he gets a chance to play him for more than an episode.
With you on the’ too silly’’ but i have learned to embrace it and the show is so much fun that way…But it does always have this dual thing where i think what it could be if they were more serious..Case in point, Sara and her pregnancy. Love that for Sara’s character and i loved her two freak outs in the episode but they played it for laughs which i did, it was hilarious. But Sara, like Oliver always intrigued me more than most of the characters because they were actual real deal killers turned hero’s. Sara quit being an assassin because she killed someone and the child either saw or found their parent like that. There is so much to mine from that. (They really went there with Oliver in season 5 on Arrow). But they never did with Sara on Legends. Maybe a little in season one but no one cares because it was bad and the season when she was the death totem touched on her darkness again. I just feel they never went as deep as they could and its too late to do it now.
Interestingly, in the pilot episode Sara is grouped in with Mick and Snart as the evil/criminal ones. [by the end of S1 she’s gone (despite a stint back assassining) from bored serial killer with a heart of gold and class rebel to revenge-driven but pragmatic de facto team leader; across S2 she develops into a real captain, committed defender of the timeline and beloved mentor figure.]
I love Saras arc and Growth but despite that seasons problems that is still personally one of my fave iterations of Sara. There was an episode where she might have had to kill Stein. As an audience we knew she didn’t want to do it but there was a chance she would, but the characters thought there was a good possibility and that was incredibly interesting to watch. In particular watching Captain Cold trying to talk her out of it while Rip was trying to get her to do it. I think her relationships were more varied and different. She had the partner in crime thing with Mick and Snart. Big Sister/Little brother with Jax, playful adoptive daughter of Stein, underlying care but visible annoyance with Ray and Rip. She even made Hawkgirl a little interesting on Occasion.
That’s a good point: with well-written relationships, each pairing brings out a different aspect of the character, as some part of the person responds to something in the other. The Mick we see with Amaya isn’t the same Mick we see with Stein; the Sara we see with Stein isn’t the same as the Sara we see with Jax. In later seasons, the relationships are still enjoyable, but I don’t really get the same sense of them drawing out the multiplicity of the characters – it’s more “this character is fun, so let’s put them in a conversation with that character who is also fun, that sounds like fun”. Although obviously it’s a continuum rather than a binary difference – it’s just something I think the show used to be a bit better at.
Season 6 was a drop (the never-ending saga of Bishop, Gary is an alien, John is an addict, etc), but this season has been a bit of a slog.
And yeah, I once admired Legends for being a really great super hero show that didn’t lean into into its superheros – until it jettisoned all of them for much more boring characters. I’ll probably check out now, I almost forgot the season finale aired.
I was not expecting Nat to leave. When his Steel started to disintegrate, I just thought they had come up with a clever way to get rid of a very expensive special effect and that Nate would be a non-superpowered Legend like the rest of the team.
That said, I’m not that upset that Nate left. He was…fine as a character but not one of my favorites. He got a happy ending. He’ll be with OG Zari and write his book. That even keeps the timeline intact since he can simply be a reclusive writer who shows up for interviews, but refuses to divulge any personal information so his fans don’t find him.I really hope we get season 8. This is one of the few shows that has managed to keep quality up over so many seasons. It is one of my favorite shows. At the very least, I want a final, announced season so we can wrap all the stories and have all of our heroes end up where they belong.
Thanks Jarrod for your reviews, you’ve been amazing! Wishing you the best for whatever comes next (these last 2 weeks have been difficult for being on AV Club). Once a legend, always a legend!I’ll miss Nate and his wonderful hair so much! The poor guy lost so much but at least he’ll get to live with his one true love in a totem forever (how does time work in the totem, do they age? The old ancestors – who are dead on the timeline – are alive there so they get to be immortals?? when does he decide to grow his epic beard)Sara is pregnant! Caity’s acting during the two freak-outs she had (one in the manor and the second on the battlefield) was a thing of beauty. I hope that her strange DNA allows for the baby to pop out in like 2 episodes, I wouldn’t want a whole season of her being pregnant.If you would believe Deuxmoi, all CW shows but a few have been renewed and they’re likely waiting for Upfronts which usually happen in March to announce them. They always used to announce the renewals then, I think with them announcing super early last year and then Legends opening up in the fall season this year instead of mid-season freaked us all out.I’m so happy for Booster to join! If season 8 is going to likely be a final season, it would be a strange full-cycle moment (in a weird time is an infinite 8 loop way) for the dad of Rip Hunter to join the Waverider and Legends being actually known as Legends in his original timeline.
I’ll miss Nate and his wonderful hair so much!Funny enough in his EW exit interview, Zano mentions he couldn’t change his hairstyle for 6 years as the expensive Steel effect was already created around that particular look. And yeah, I would hope they have enough sorted out by the upfronts to make an announcement.
Upfronts have traditionally been in May, but between Covid and the new TV landscape in general I don’t know what the deal is now.
Well, we could pick up with the Legends five seconds after this finale, or five years later. Such is the wonder of time travel inter-season breaks.
And then, quarter-alien unkillable ninja baby is SURELY way too much potential for them to waste and, well, time travel, so… I’m guessing there’s a 40% chance that time-traveling Ninja Lance-Sharpe rescues them from the new Time Dictators, and a 30% chance that NLS is actually the ruler of the Time Dictators due to Parent Issues (possibly due to being abandoned by her mothers as a result of her mothers being imprisoned by future-her and baby-her being taken away from them in a tragic yet ultimately heartwarmingly-redeemed time loop origin story?)
The network being sold is the big hold-up, right? Like they’ll probably renew what they were going to renew anyway but they can’t say anything until the shake-up’s done?
I wasn’t expecting to cry reading Nick’s exit interview but here we are: https://ew.com/tv/legends-of-tomorrow-nick-zano-exit-season-7-finale/?utm_campaign=entertainmentweekly_entertainmentweekly&utm_content=manual&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_term=6220225953daeb000158d58e&fbclid=IwAR1-dF8iDMaM4QzFyHicTmJ9OPyAP8XGjwbSoiNOSVrncLXWQfW6MaQySd0
I’m not sure it’s been credited here, but Gwyn’s poem (which we’ve heard before) is “Invictus” by William Ernest Henley; it’s the source of “I am the master of my soul”.
CW DC TV thoughts (probably for the last time):Superman & Lois: Not a huge fan of the Jonathan gets superpowers via drugs storyline since it feels very Smalleville-ish, but the rest is very solid.Naomi: I wasn’t a huge fan of the first few episodes, but it’s growing on me. I do want see her powers sooner rather than later.LoT: I’ll miss Nate. He was the second longest tenured Legend after Sarah. Bring on Booster Gold for next season!Batwoman: A little bit of a disjointed season with the Poison Ivy/Mary stuff ending a few episodes ago, but it ended well.My guess is that The CW will renew all of these shows though my guess is that it’s going to be the last seasons for Flash, LoT and Riverdale. I’ll miss your recaps Jerrod.
I’ve been trying to stay invested in Batwoman, but I feel like the potential for a new direction for the show by making the new Batwoman an orphan who grew up on the fringes of society has been squandered by revealing that no, she’s actually had a family this whole time, a super-rich one in fact, and her new arch-rival is actually her brother, how crazy is that? (Well, exactly as crazy as Kate Kane’s backstory, so…)Her commitment to social justice has receded far into the background in favor of the same soapy 20-something family and romantic tensions that animate all the other “classic” CWverse shows. Ryan used to be a strong and unyielding voice in the “ACAB” mold, refusing to give Sophie an inch of ground about working with the Crows, and now that the Crows are gone she’s girlfriend material?It just feels like “character development” by writerly fiat: the new Batwoman inherits everything from the old one — the privileged background, the personal grievance against Alice, the romance with Sophie, the flamboyantly crazy sibling out for revenge… the old Ryan Wilder, and more importantly her very different perspective on crime and punishment, barely seems to exist anymore, and it makes me sad.
I completely agree. While I loved the season, I feel like they squandered Ryan’s potential in being a “different” Batwoman than Kate. Having such a vastly different experience, which in turn made her who she was and what she fought for, was a breath of fresh air. Finding out that she’s got a whole secret family, and sort of putting her activism on the backburner is not the best look.However, I will say I am invested in Sophie and their relationship, although I do miss the Ryan from Season 2.
Sophie has more chemistry with Ryan than she ever did with Kate (zero), so I haven’t really been surprised that they paired up. (Hot people are gonna kiss each other on TV, it’s the law!) I appreciated them making an effort to recognize that Mary had often been ignored in the series to date and giving her some meaty plotlines to play. Much to my surprise, I especially like her burgeoning sisterhood with Alice, a character I have never enjoyed much and used to begrudge every minute of screen time she got. Now Alice actually has a compelling arc — a struggle against the worst of herself — and a partner who is convincing as someone who can actually help redeem her. There’s some good stuff happening under the hood.Unfortunately, these shows always revolve around the title character, and while Bat-team 2.0 is much more of an ensemble than Kate’s version, the Ryan stuff is degrading my enjoyment fast enough that I’m dreading the prospect of watching a whole season of the Jet Family Chronicles as our A plot while the good stuff happens on the sidelines. :/
Unfortunately that seems so common for these shows (and for TV in general): all the distinctive characteristics of a character are immediately forgotten about to make them the same as all the others. One of the most annoying ones was when they decided “so, Oliver Queen is a billionaire playboy who uses his wastrel image to deflect suspicion… so what if he lost his money and his company and always acted in public exactly like the Green Arrow?” [i.e. ‘we don’t know what to do with this side of the character, so let’s ignore it’ – a generically privileged background makes things easy, but actually having money and power is awkward to write around, so…]
Apparently this is such a trope in sitcoms in particular that writers have a name for it, but I can’t remember what it is. Sitcoms need to have some really distinctive hook to get commissioned, or else they can’t stand out from the huge pack of applicants… but after the pilot the writers try to drop as much of that hook as possible because it’s much easier to write a conventional sitcom. Crime procedurals are even worse at this: it’s “X and Y team up and fight crime!” and you go “oh, that’s interesting, I wonder how… oh, they’re the same as every other pairing ever”.The most ludicrous for me was a little-remembered show called ‘Life’ (Damian Lewis! Sarah Shahi!). In the pilot, it’s established that one cop is, after a wrongful conviction and a decade in prison, now a multi-multi-multi-millionaire thanks to a compensation deal, while his new partner is a cocaine addict who has a lot of sleazy sex with strangers. After the pilot, his money is occasionally mentioned but has zero effect on the plot, while her personal issues are never mentioned again (I think she goes to an AA meeting a few episodes in and that solves all her problems)… [it’s not a bad series (Lewis is predictably great in it), it’s just… damn it writers, you tried hard to think of a potentially interesting spin on a buddy cop show, you did enough to show the audience how it could be interesting, and then you just completely fucking ignored it all and made an almost completely generic series! Don’t tease us!][*sigh* now I want a Life reboot. I think the whole setup – cop-turned-convict-turned-cop, police corruption, suddenly being obscenely rich and not knowing what to do with it, hiring a repentent insider-trading banker as chief minion, being partnered with an Iranian-American female cop who is marginalised by other cops – just feels like it could be used as a much richer source of material in 2022 than it was back in 2007…]
Yeah… “Life” could have been something really good…
Gave you a star for making me remember “Life”.Now I want to ear some fruit.
I’ve actually warmed to her relationship with Sophie, which I dreaded at first, but they handled it well by giving it time and letting it develop naturally. That said, despite the main plot hinging on her family, I do feel that Ryan’s character really faded in with the wallpaper this season compared to her last season, and a big part of that is dropping her unique political outlook in favor of conventional CW family drama.
Still better than Ruby Rose’s Kate, though.
Naomi is okay, but enough with decompressing this story. What should have been a four-episode arc has been stretched out needlessly to six or eight or ten.Batwoman, on the other hand, remains the worst-written show on television — with idiotic plotting, barely-one-dimensional characterization, petrified-wood acting, and dialogue that never heard of subtext — all on the level of a high-school script-development seminar.
Leslie could have been good but, for reasons that baffle me, the showrunners couldn’t bear to part with the terrible cast and characters from the first season and added even worse ones, leaving the lead stuck cleaning up the mess Rose (the most petrified of all the cast) left behind. I’m hoping that the network just cuts the show loose and leaves the audience in peace.
At least Zano didn’t have to play the straight man for his entire tenure.
Somehow mean Gidget’s protocols don’t include Asimov’s Third Law.
It’s nice that Donald Faison picked up some superhero stuff while Powerpuff is stalled. DC finally let them use Booster Gold! Could Breckin Meyer be reuniting with him as Ted “Blue Beetle” Kord or Skeets?
https://mattthecatania.wordpress.com/2022/03/03/legends-of-batwoman/Meanwhile Batwoman was an improvement this season. It never convinced me that Joker II was a worhier endgame enemy than Poison Ivy though.
You misspelled “Zach Braff”. I suppose Meyer could play whichever of the two Braff doesn’t. Skeets would probably make more sense for Braff, since he would only have to do the voice.
Huh, not sure that worked for me, and I’ve so far thought this has been the best Legends season since the 2-3 peak. Just didn’t hang entirely together.
New Booster is also concerning though that just might be my utter detesting of Scrubs talking.
Okay I will of course concede that the AvaLance stuff was basically perfect. No complaints whatsoever there.
Wait wait, A-? I quit on this season around the time they went to the WW2 hanger.I can’t stand Bishop and I think since Sara is a clone I haven’t cared as much for the show.I’m going to watch all the episodes I have left on my DVR back to back but there is no way this season’s shows can be an A- level! That’s like peak legends stuff!
– This season was actually pretty good, I loved it. Once they got rid of Bishop (although he was ok to me). – I forgot Sara was a clone lmao, but don’t forget it it’ll return (well not the clone stuff, but the alien/human hybrid).
Thanks for the recaps Jarrod, you’ll be missed. So great to see Faison and Booster Gold. I hope they get another season to explore what happens. Not thrilled with a pregnancy/baby storyline, but I can’t imagine the Legends will do anything typical with it, either, so we’ll wait and see. This ep really drove home (again!) just how awesome it is when Lotz can let loose and let her charming self fly. Also, how great it is when you hand some amazing dialogue and emotional scenes to Matt Ryan. (On a truly shallow note, I really hate the pants they saddled Amy Pemberton with for the episode.)Love the adventures of Astra and her tiny friends.
It would be a cruel sin of reality for Donald Faison to be cast as Booster Gold only for the show to get canned before he gets a full season in the role….which means I kind of expect that to happen.
Losing Nate hurts, a lot. He’s one of only two ties left to the show’s reinvention, along with Sara. I really am quite sad to see him go. This finale was great, and I hope we get another season, because Donald Faison as Booster Gold would be incredible.
It needed to end a while ago. This show is incredibly different from the first two terrific seasons. I hold those seasons up with Flash seasons 1-2, Arrow seasons 1-2 and Black Lightning season 3 as the best of the Arrowverse. This show is a joke compared to what it once was… same thing can be said of Flash and Supergirl before it ended.
Okay, okay.. I feel compelled to say it! I also feel able to do so with the lack of negative mention to what I’m about to say. So, The Legends of Tomorrow is silly, it’s chaotic and at times, down right ridiculous.. But, it’s also full of heart.I’m a gay man and whilst I’ve enjoyed the LGBT representation of Sara and Ava, I’ve never saw a true love story between 2 men play out on screen. Yes, you could argue Roswell: New Mexico has kind of done this, but never to Gwyn and Alan’s extent last week. I love all the Arrowverse shows, but none of them show live so relatably like TLOT (Even Asexual is touched upon!). I’m not at all saying I believe all TV should be focused solely on this. However, as someone who grew up watching hetero-normative TV, I’ve became accustomed to not being represented on it. If I may speak so boldly, I believe many people of colour may also feel this way (Think 90’s TV with predominantly white, heterosexual characters).I would absolutely hate for this show to not be renewed. However, at the end of the day, they gave us a series penultimate episode to give us peace, incase that happens. It also taught us to fight for your internal truth and be courageous, even when it’s hard. TLOT represent life through the best lens: Flawed characters with a well-intentioned desire to create positive change in the world, who always get it wrong. How more human can you get than that?
First comment I’ve ever made on these posts, but felt compelled to write one.
Feel free to feel compelled to write some more…Btw, I totally agree with you on gay representation in the media.
The “human side” has always been what I liked the most on LoT.Same is true for the show FARSCAPE.
I’m just totally willing to forgive them any “bad” episodes… not that they had any since that season noone really talks about…
Just hoping this wasn’t the last one???!!!
No! I do not want this to be the end!See ya all next season!
Thanks for everything Jarrod!Yeah, Amy Pemberton has just been terrific this season and she did incredible work here. So glad they found a bigger role for her. And still don’t mind lookin’ at her.We haven’t learned much about Booster yet but Donald Faison is superb casting.
I dunno about anyone else, but Sara being pregnant kinda bummed me out. Whenever a baby is brought into the mix, show’s start sucking. Unless, there’s something where the baby is nowhere on camera and an afterthought because it’s been hidden away somewhere from big bads (Wynonna Earp) and it’s only dealt with for a few episodes.If anything, the kid has the opportunity to grow up with Mia Queen and training with Nyssa.
So did the totem swallow itself. The totem has to exist somewhere.
Let’s be totally honest…if the show gets a season 8 renewal, they’ll DEFINITELY be pairing Fancy Zari with Booster.
“If Nate is really gone from Legends Of Tomorrow, why go to the extra trouble of finding a way to get rid of his superpowers—OH.”Not sure what you’re getting at here? Is it just one final jab by the production crew at an effect that they clearly disliked and used as little as possible?Thanks for the reviews, Jarrod. It’s a good time to be getting out of doing work for the AVC, seems like. Best of luck!