Metallica sues, chads hang, and Survivors survive: 19 pop culture windows into 2000
Aux Features Y2K Week
The world didn’t end. The lights stayed on, airplanes remained in the sky, and when the clock struck midnight on January 1, 2000, the world’s computerized systems were properly primed to handle the roll over from years that started with “19” and years that started with “2.” Not that the 365 days that followed needed any help with being eventful: The Y2K bug was a bust, but computers still managed to wreak havoc, as their increasingly connected users rode increasing broadband speeds into one another’s music libraries, accessed through a piece of software that would become the recording industry’s public enemy No. 1 by midyear. You could argue until you’re blue in the face about when a new decade, century, or millennium actually begins, but with Peanuts set to end in February of 2000, the old standbys and security blankets of the 20th century were already starting to fade away. Meanwhile, the United States was on the precipice of picking a new president—though nobody could’ve suspected that Decision 2000 ultimately rested with the U.S. Supreme Court.
But lists of incorrectly labeled MP3s, comic strip panels, and the holes of oddly punctured ballots are just three portals to see 2000 through. As is tradition for The A.V. Club’s annual summertime throwbacks, we begin Y2K Week by reconstructing the year that was 20 years ago through the pop culture works, figures, and events that defined it. It’s not a comprehensive timeline, but a mosaic of the art and media that still scream “Y2K!” today. To paraphrase an old Late Night With Conan O’Brien bit that carried on during (and even after) the year in its title: It’s time, once again, to look into the past.
The past?
That’s right—let’s look into past. All the way to the year 2000.
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Also letâs not forget the start of Grant Morrisonâs famous X-Men run, which started right around the time the movie came out.
I really liked We3 and his takes on Batman, Iâll check that out. Although Iâve randomly gotten blowback from comic die-hards for liking him. Same for a bunch of other writers and artists I thought were good for that matter, but do you know what the beef is some people have with Morrisonâs work?
Iâm not sure. In my experience it can depend on which Morrison work people are talking about.Some people didnât like his New X-men because they felt it was a departure from the style of X-men comics they liked (It was and it was great). A fair number of people hated one particular plot, which I can understand, though I liked it myself.His JLA run is generally well-regarded for the most part and itâs probably my favourite.His Batman run is one Iâve got somewhat mixed feelings over. I like most of it but I have a really strong personal dislike of Silver Age DC comics so his tooling around with the mythos of 50s-60s Batman comics and storylines largely left me cold. Final Crisis is fucking awesome though. Great, great comic.Morrisonâs Marvel Boy and Fantastic Four minis were both good fun, though quite short obviously.I know itâs unlikely but Iâd love to see him come back to Marvel at some point and have another crack at some of their properties again.Â
I like Morrison (I read some of his Animal Man stuff as a kid and it blew my mind , although I hated his Zenith run in 2000AD as I generally had no idea what was going on ) but I think he can go a bit up his own arse at times. Heâs a great writer though (although a fairly useless member of the suicide squad)
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Grant_Morrison_(New_Earth)
His Animal Man is great.Itâs probably top-3 Morrison for me with New X-men being No.1 and We3 at No.2
Man, saying âup his own arseâ is sooooo much more fun than âup his own ass.â =DÂ
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Also, IIRC, the end of the run got really messy where it almost felt like every single character was revealing that they were secretly Xorn.
Not that I recall? Thereâs just the one major reveal (which I wonât spoil here) but that one was planned from the beginning and well-set up. The confusion with the multiple Xorns and all that was Chuck Austen and later writers.
I remember when everyone was complaining how boring his JLA run was because we all expected it to be shit off the wall like Doom Patrol and Invisibles.And man, gotta say, I have not seen many other people praise Final Crisis at all. I tried reading it once and it just looked like incomprehensible mishmosh.
Honestly, I had a harder time understanding The Invisibles than Final Crisis. Not because it was bad, but because I lost track of the plot sometime around when they astrally projected themselves back through time to meet the Marquis De Sade.
Invisibles has the benefit(?) of being incomprehensible on
purpose. Itâs been years and I probably should give it a reread at some
point to see how it holds up; god knows thereâs nothing else to do. If
anything, it was nice and rare to see an ostensibly mainstream comic
that dealt so openly with alternative sexualities/issues of gender
identity.
Yeah I remember that the criticism of his JLA. That was the thing – he did basically no character development or ongoing storylines with any of the characters.Thatâs not necessarily a bad thing. The biggest issue I found is one that stands out strongly in hindsight – that his run was largely impacted on the events happening on the other DC books at the time – hence why we get Electric Superman during the American Dreams/Rock of Ages storylines, then later Wonder Woman is replaced by her mother for a single storyline, thereâs the alternate Wally West for maybe one or two issues. Given those things seem to happen with basically no explanation reads quite odd in restrospect, though at the time I didnât have a huge issue with it.Itâs probably been 15ish years since I last read that JLA run though. I should revist it.Â
Yeah, itâs hard to have character development when the characterizations
are set in stone by editorial mandate. And I think a lot of people
expected his JLA to be a savage deconstruction along the lines of Animal
Man, which DC was never gonna allow on their flagship title. So what we
got were ordinary superhero storiesâbut what intelligent, entertaining
and just damn good stories. Nods to history that felt natural and
unforced, inventive and original plots, insights into characters that no
one else had thought of: Jâonn trying to reorder the Jokerâs mind and
it taking every ounce of his concentration to hold on for only a few
minutes, old Batman taking on future Darkseid, and somehow Morrison did
the impossible and actually got me to root for Kyle Rayner, a hopeless
joke of a character up to that point. And WWIII was the perfect conclusion
of the series, a knowing and yet hopelessly earnest summation of
everything that is good and benevolent about superhero stories. Even if
itâs a different tack than Animal Man and Doom Patrol, itâs definitely
the third jewel in the triple crown.
Oh absolutely. Itâs a terrific run on the book, just so long as you donât go in with preconcieved expectations of some sort of batshit insane Morrison special.Itâs a book he clearly loved working on and loved spending time with the characters but he was going in with a very different idea of what he was going to do than some fans thought he would.Â
Final Crisis is one that Iâve got an odd relationship with. I hated it and found it totally incomprehensible when it was coming out month-to-month (and longer, it had huge delays). Reading it in a single collection (with the extra Superman/Batman/Black Lightning issues Morrison wrote), I found it a much better story.The last issue still doesnâtâ really work for me but itâs got some good stuff – the issue where Darkseid wins is one of the bleakest comics Iâve ever read. Itâs just fucking wild.
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Also be sure to read his All Star Superman, a.k.a. in my opinion the best Superman story of all time.
Seconded.Â
Almost -That didnât publish until May 2001.First we got the tail end of the Alan Davis run and then the infamous Revolution, which brought back Chris Claremont and the Neo.
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I believe the Milligan/Allred run of X-Force started around the same time. Both were radical departures from the style of the 90’s X-books and both really angered certain fanboys.
Indeed it did. It launched either the same day or the week after. I canât remember at this point.God that was an exciting period, not just for the X-books but also for Marvel as a whole.Cutting the X-books back to just a handful was a smart move.It copped a lot of shit back then but I think time has been kind to Joe Caseyâs Uncanny X-men, silent issue notwithstanding. Thereâs some interesting ideas in there but it didnât help that he lost Ian Churchill as his his regular artist after three issues and the rest of his run was basically fill-ins (though a great group – Sean Philips particularly, Ashley Wood, Aaron Lopresti, Tom Raney and Ron Garney).Comparatively, Chris Claremontâs X-treme X-men was good fun, X-Force was an absolute blast, The world traveller run of Cable was good while I have a really soft spot for Frank Tieriâs Wolverine/Weapon X run. The biggest dud of that period from memory was the Rogue mini-series which just didnât work at all.
I have the Milligan/Allred X-statix hc OMNIBUS with every fucking thing. The first half, which was still under the âX-Forceâ title, is one of the best fucking rides Iâve ever had reading comics. I actually hate that they changed it to X-Statix â- it seemed to lose something in the transition, or maybe it was just the loss of Edie. I was still buying single issues at the time, and I picked up the first issue of their run on a lark. Fuuuuuuuuuck. What a ride that was.Â
One of my favorite X-Men runs of all time; and one of the few I can re-read. The back half is wobbly â- I canât stand the Bachelo issues, his worst impulses unchecked and nigh-unreadable artistic storytelling, and I donât think itâs necessary to try to âactually, it was goodâ the final Sublime bit (though it wasnât bad). I have ZERO issues with Magneto being a bigoted junkie who dies! Â I… went back to read Phalanx Covenant and Age of Apocalypse last year. It… was not good. Whedonâs Astonishing X-Men run is another one I still go back to. He and MOrrison both put such specific stamps on the book and have such clearly delinated start/end points. Itâs nice.Â
After all, itâs not their fault that they were released so close to each other, or that seeing all three on a single personâs bookshelf constitutes a red flag so massive that itâs visible from space.Wish you had told me this before I dated them.
The distant future.The year 2000.The distant future.The distant future…
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Ah, the Florida recount, aka what I always would be the lowest moment in American democracy. The outcome of that was so fucked up that Iâm sort of shocked our system of government didnât just crumble to dust at that moment (maybe it would have if Democrats had any backbone at all and didnât subsequently acquiesce to a fake president). Instead our country just sort of limped along for another 20 years of terrible decisions before being killed once and for all.
Imagine how much less the world would probably suck right now had the Democrats actually fought and won that battle. Gore actually listened to the science on climate change, almost certainly wouldnât have invaded Iraq, probably wouldnât have invaded Afghanistan, and might have actually done something to address the growing housing crisis (had he lasted two terms).
Also, whilst Iâm unsure on Goreâs policy on kidnapping foreign citizens, shanghaiing them away to secret dungeons in North Africa and Eastern Europe, then brutally torturing them for no reason, I gotta believe he wouldnât have been crazy for the idea at the very least.
I agree with all of that except Afghanistan. Had gore won and 9/11 still happened, he would have almost guaranteed losing the next election had he not gone into Afghanistan. The entire country was behind that war. Â
Eh, Iâm not certain on that. People got behind the war because Bush and co told them thatâs how you get Bin Laden. Turns out that was mega wrong, in any case.
Yeah, people conflate the Afghanistan and Iraq wars but when the Taliban refused to give up al Qaeda leadership there was no way we werenât retaliating. Iraq was mostly Saddam playing chicken with the U.S. and betting wrong.
The taliban offered bin laden in exchange for being accepted as the actual government of afghanistan by the US. Seems like a small price to pay to avoid the war.And saddam wasnt playing chicken- the us demanded he give up wmds he didnt actually have. And that the US knew he didnt have, which is why bush lied about it
He was also shooting at U.S. jets patrolling the no-fly zone he agreed to at the end of the first Gulf War, offering $25,000 to the families of suicide bombers in a post-9/11 world when there was very little patience for that kind of shit, and insinuating he had WMDs while officially protesting that he didnât. Thatâs what I mean by playing chicken.
If Gore wins 9/11 almost certainly doesnât happen.
A lot of fuck-ups happened by the US govât for 9/11 to happen. Plus Clinton had been heavy on hunting UBL in the 90s. I am not 100% sure that 9/11 wouldâve happened under the Gore administration.
Richard Clarkeâs book and 9/11 Commission testimony revealing the fuck-ups on terrorism at the start of the Bush administration was fucking wild.
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Gore might also have prevented 9/11 by, you know, reading his briefings
Probably. On the other hand, he was still with Tipper at the time, so maybe he would have created an executive order to bleep out all bad words in music (if you remember, Tipper believed that these bad words were corrupting youth).
But if a Democrat had been president for the mortgage meltdown instead of Bush that would not have led to a good place. Also not sure what Gore would have done after 9-11. But we almost certainly would have invaded Afghanistan to go after bin Laden and al Qaidaâ but not Iraq.
I suggested to a friend of mine a while back we should start a 2000-themed band called the Hanging Chads. The idea was not warmly received.Â
Better that than the Pregnant Chads
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Looking at that RATM protest now is infuriating. Fuck purists, so hard.âWaaah, give me everything I want, or Iâll cut off my own nose to spite my face!â
Or maybe the weak neoliberal Democrats of the 90s have a hand in where we are today, and Rage had every right to call out those sniveling cowards that have folded to conservative opposition for the last twenty years.
20 years later the DNC is STILL being dragged, kicking and screaming, to pay more than lip service to the values their voters care about.Â
There was a major effort in the 90s to promote global trade but minimal effort to address wealth disparities, either directly or indirectly (like by reforming healthcare leglislation or simply promoting civil rights). And on the trivial side of things, Gore and Lieberman had bad histories with free speech, and musicians in particular lost their shit over that shit in the 90s. Obviously no one predicted quite how bad the Bush years would be, and there are genuine reasons to remember the Clinton years fondly. But the income inequality and civil rights infractions weâre all trying to handle today didnât appear during the Bush administration, they just became harder to ignore.
Obviously no one predicted quite how bad the Bush years would be
Where do you get the gall to say something like that, in the A. V. Club comment section of all places?: https://politics.theonion.com/bush-our-long-national-nightmare-of-peace-and-prosperi-1819565882
Oh man, the Bush years were peak Onion. Even then, everyone assumed it would be conservative politics as usual, rather than a gigantic terrorist attack leading to a series of armed conflicts and implementation of a police state, plus a remarkably awful recession. Sort of like how we all expected the Trump years to be awful, but none of us expected… this.Â
Why? Because they played a concert? The thing is, Democrats, largely as a result of Reagan handily beating an incumbent Democratic president in 1980 and then enjoyed a historic landslide in 1984, decided to become corporate-friendly, capitalism-embracing, free-trade-loving, tough-on-crime, Republican-lite. Looking back on it, the Clinton administrationâs record is actually pretty terrible through event the slightest progressive lens. The 1994 crime bill put the mass incarceration crisis on steroids. NAFTA laid the groundwork for free trade that ensured that Americans would lose jobs thanks to lower environmental and labor standards in other countries. Welfare reform absolutely decimated the social safety net. All in all, there was plenty of good reason for RATM to be protesting!
Yeah, F RATM. It was the perfect embodiment of that âboth sides are badâ attitude which just poisons so much politics, especially on the Left. A lot of their music does indeed rock and they were a great band but they can all go fâ off
â…the lowest moment in American democracy…â…so far
The process was fucked up, but the outcome was correct. Per the recount by the NYT, Wall St. Journal and Washington Post (among others) Bush did win FL.
âmaybe it would have if Democrats had any backbone at all and didnât subsequently acquiesce to a fake presidentâMore plausibly, if a small handful of purported progressives had not drunk the Bore/Gush kool-aid and voted Nader (or not at all) Florida wouldnât have been close enough to steal. Related: Rage Against the Machine protesting the Democrats in 2000 was dumbassery then and is even more so now. Even more plausibly and less contentiously, if Palm Beach County didnât use a complicated butterfly ballot design that led a lot of old people who thought they were voting for Gore to vote for Pat Buchanan, the Democrats would have won. Itâs not entirely clear that the Democrats had a viable legal path to a full recount in a Republican-led state, but they certainly win if PBC donât mess up the ballot
Lowest point in American democracy, so FAR!
I feel like just adding it to a list of random things for the year 2000 along with Britney Spears and Making the Band is really harmful. The 2000 election was the beginning of the end, the first domino going down for the hellscape we live in. Itâs something that you read about happening in third world countries and other places where the UN gets involved and yet it happened here and yet we call kind of forget about it.
You forget what happened in 2016.Â
The Y2K bug was a real thing. It didnât have any dramatic effects because there was a global Herculean effort to upgrade systems and mitigate damage. Thereâs a parallel between Y2K and coronavirus, with people in less badly affected regions saying, âclearly Covid-19 isnât that bad, I mean look at all those empty hospital beds.â
This is really important to remember. A huge number of dedicated, smart, creative nerds spent tons of time and energy…and, yes, earned tons of money in many cases…to turn a disaster into a punchline. Y2K wasnât going to rise to the apocalyptic level that some were predicting at the time, but it was going to be real, real bad. Â
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My aunt was a programmer back in the 80s and wound up re-entering the workforce in the late 90s doing Y2K compliance. She said they all knew back in the 80s that two-digit years would cause the program to crash once the year turned over to 00, but memory was too tight to spare additional digits, and it seemed absurd that a company would use the same version of a program for 20 years. We have a serious problem where we interpet effective disaster preparation/aversion as a sign that a problem wasnât âreal.â You encounter the same thing about the H1N1 outbreak several years ago – it was an incredibly bad flu season with tens of thousands more deaths than usual, but there was an effective public health plan to promote vaccination and prevent overextension of the health care system. It didnât lead to a covid level catastrophe, so people talk about it like it was just another flu. It probably doesnât help that every few years we have a catastrophe thatâs mismanaged like covid or Katrina, which sends the message that this is what a ârealâ disaster looks like. It also sends the message that when catastrophes are managed incorrectly, Black people suffer most – which for a segment of the population makes them not count.
I know itâs cliche to blame the media but I think a big part of the initial underreaction to COVID was precisely because previous flus have invariably been reported on through the lens of their worst-case scenarios, then turned out to be only slightly worse than what weâre used to on an annual basis. Thereâs a reason no one trusts the reporting any more.
Thereâs also the issue that reportage rarely focuses on successful efforts to prevent something – H1N1 wasnât as virulent as everyone feared, but there was also an active effort to respond to it. That effort got folded into the disaster narrative, and it all got thrown out when the system failed to break down. Itâs not just the press, it speaks to the way that a certain brand of libertarian nihilism has poisoned public discourse. In the popular imagination, big problems canât be handled well. They get reframed, either as small problems that received too much attention (like Y2K or H1N1) or as problems so big that society couldnât possibly have responded to them appropriately (like Hurricane Katrina or Covid). That doesnât really jive with the worldview of most adults in a developed society, but it works as a form of collective gaslighting (sorry to overuse and overused word). People who understand that big problems can be mitigated by a thoughtful and comprehensive response are told, over and over, that theyâre wrong, that nothing can be done, and our best chance is to cynically focus on our little corner of society while we wait for the apocalypse.Â
To your first paragraph, thereâs nothing more boring than things working the way theyâre supposed to. Doesnât make for much of a story.
This is a really good point.
Ah, the perpetual pain of working in computer security, where failures are really visible, but doing your job well looks like business as usual.
Y2K repairs drying up were also a major contributor to the bursting of the tech bubble. It turned out a whole lot of companies were making most of their money throwing armies of programmers at the problem, and once the year rolled over all of that revenue dried up.
There was also a huge push in the late 90s for every entity bigger than a childâs lemonade stand to have an online presence and that often necessitated major upgrades in both hardware and software. By 2001 that was largely over with.
2000 is a year I donât have a lot of fond memories for. I was in high school and absolutely hating it. Anxiety and depression were both kicking my arse in a huge way and all the usual teenage bullshit was happening.Plus, outside of things like the Sydney Olympics and some comics, I donât recall it being a year where there were a lot of big films that I liked, nor was there much in the way of good TV on at the time (that was being shown on free-to-air in Australia – it was all about Survivor, The Mole, All Saints and Blue Heelers)2001 was a markedly better year for me on generally all those fronts.
2000 was the last time I was unemployed, albeit only briefly. I quit a job I detested without having anything else lined up. I goofed off for about a month and then started looking, and discovered that things had really dried up. I guess it was post dotcom bubble? I latched onto a call center job that just barely paid the bills. Oh, and I got flooded out of my apartment and basically had to start over from scratch. I spent the summer living with my sister and packed on about 30 pounds from stress eating. So yeah, 2000 sucked big time.
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Itâs true, nothing bad happened in 2001
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What a fucking disappointment the year 2000 was. No flying cars, no space colonies, no AI, not even close to atomic-powered spacecraft that would carry hyper-sleeping astronauts to Jupiter.I did finally score a job I had been chasing for more than three years and moved to a decent city that was only half-full of ignorant-ass hicks, instead of completely full of them.
Thank you William Hughes for showing exactly how shallow and petty this siteâs criticism can be. Youâre not reviewing books, youâre judging people for wanting to read and own them, and I canât think of anything more catty and sad.
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2000 was such a weird time. It really did feel like society was collectively moving into the future and that flying cars and spaceships were right around the corner. Then 9/11 came a year later and vibe checked and entire nation.Â
Late 2000 had a very different vibe from early 2000. At the start of the year the tech boom was roaring, but by winter the NASDAQ had crashed hard and it was clear the internet had been wildly overhyped.
It feels weird to see âStanâ as origin for the term for crazy superfan in a 2000’s retrospective when the word has seen its most use in the late 2010’sÂ
– Star Trek: DS9 had a hot & heavy gay kiss all the way back in â95 (I understand that American audiences would be even less receptive to two men kissing than two women, so it was noteworthy when that happened on Dawsonâs Creek, but it felt like Star Trek erasure to not mention this fairly significant LGBTQ+ moment on American tv)
The Willow and Tara kiss on âBuffyâ was somewhere around 2000 also, but maybe in 2001? It wasnât all that much commented on since it was a response to Joyceâs death and the larger vibe of that episode overwhelmed everything else.
There was an unfortunate habit on TV shows back then on having two female characters kiss and then hyping it up. Theyâd claim that it was to show how forward and progressive they were when it was really done to get men to watch two women get it on. Joss purposely had the first shown kiss between Willow and Tara be done in such a way that it wasnât something that could be hyped up or made a big deal of.
I just donât get the hype over Almost Famous. It was…okay? Fine? Had some cute moments but it seems like nowadays people act like it was and is this really big deal and I just donât see it. And this is coming from someone whoâs a big fan of Lester Bangsâ writing.
It was a very personal love letter from Cameron Crowe to a bygone era of rock and roll, which I think is why people fawned over it at the time (especially since new rock sucked so badly at the time, coming off the nu metal era). The band in the movie was a sort of stand-in for acts like the Allman Brothers, who Crowe grew up idolizing, and who people looked back on longingly. In general itâs just a very sweet movie.
Maybe thatâs why I couldnât get into it. It just seemed like a very romanticized view of the period, especially considering all the misogyny and sexual abuse that we now know took place.
I can get that – commentary at the time it was released was that it was little more than a celebration of the era. But the mask does slip towards the end when Fugit tells Penny that the ban just traded her and the other groupies to another band for $50 and a case of beer.
Iâve always deeply loved it. Itâs a sweet movie with some lovely scenes and always brings a smile. Then again I was about the same age as William Miller and wanted to be a writer so it hit all the buttons for me.
Shame you probably put a lot of effort into an article Iâll never read because itâs a slideshow.Â
Wasnât for me on mobile.
The pageâs formatting auto-swaps between a slideshow (in a normal browser window) and a list if that window is narrowed to portrait formats). Since mobile browsers are generally vertical format it appears as a list, but this is also a way on desktops to force it into list form, so long as you donât mind a skinny window.
J Loâs green dress was TWENTY years ago? What the fuck just happened??
Why the fuck do we remember that?
Because she looked amazing in that dress would be the answer.
Oh, another slideshow.ya fuck off
2000 really does that have fin de siecle decadance to it. A dumb, vapid, money obsessed culture arising out of a booming economy in peace time, right on the precipice of it all going to hell. The absolute peak of the American century and it all ends with all this crappy pop cultureÂ
Yikes, I must have been out to lunch that year! I remember almost none of these except at second hand maybe. The song âStanâ, yes, and the business with Jack on âDawsonâs Creekâ, but not that specific scene.
What came after for Blockbuster was arguably even funnier, because they adopted their own mail-in service and went all in on it. But then Netflix switched over to streaming, which turned out to be wildly more popular. So suddenly Blockbuster was really awesome at this mail-in service for movies that people were already losing interest in because they could just do it from home.
They also tried a promotional gimmick where if you got a movie by mail, you could return it to your local Blockbuster and rent another for free. Fine on paper, except it was only confirmed at corporate-owned stores, so if you tried to do it at a franchise store it was a coin flip whether or not they were even participating in the promotion. And of course, Blockbuster only went for modern movies, as opposed to Netflixâs huge back catalog of old movies and indies.
Thing is, Blockbuster was still a cash flow machine at that point and if theyâd bothered to actually try could have leveraged the brand and financial resources to build a successful rival platform. Itâs always interesting looking at these inflection points, like with Circuit City firing all its commissioned salespeople and replacing them with cheap hourly labor thinking it would save money. Which it probably did, but now there wasnât anyone there knowledgeable enough to walk you through the options on what you were looking for, and revenue tanked. Along comes Best Buy and with Amazonâs help finishes them off.
I appreciated Dave Eggers telling you in the preface what page A Heartbreaking Work… would take a nose dive on. He wasnât lying; the first 123 pages are a pretty solid little tragicomic memoir, and then after that itâs a collection of so-so âBeing young in the 90’s was pretty coolâ reminiscences.
but it was đ
I always felt that Eggers fed off the coat tails of DFW. Granted, I like them both, but for different reasons. My love for DE has fallen off over the last decade, as he just seems to be doing the same thing over again. DFW always seemed in his place and not giving a shit. Still remember the day I got a text about how DFW killed himself the previous day. My staff was pissed off at me the next day for being pissed off at the world.Â
Crazy hot take- Metallica was sort of justified for doing what they did. They did put out the albums so they should have gotten some sort of compensation for it and the only reason why people hated them for it is because we all were just able to get music for free and who doesnât want things for free?
They got all kinds of shit for testifying before Congress and other things they were doing to actually try to help fellow artists. And letâs face it, the music industry never recovered. By the time the P2P sites were shut down people were just buying $0.99 singles online. Artists now make most of their money touring.
Everybody made fun of Lars because LOL artists wanting to be paid but the reality is that he was right- unless youâre Taylor Swift or Cardi B, thereâs no way you can make a living off of just releasing music. That wasnât true of the pre-napster era. And the rest of us (including me) were calling him sell out and all that just because we wanted free stuff. Of course, the music industry in some deserved some of that for charging $20 for CDs but Lars was ultimately right.
I was as guilty as anybody – Iâd venture that for most people the main benefit of moving from 56k downloads to DSL was how much faster you could pirate music. You could get an entire album from different sources in a matter of minutes, then burn it to disc on your PC. Boom, all set for the cost of a CDR.
Yeah, it was kind of like the whole 1980s âhome taping is killing musicâ thing, only more so.
Eh, Lars wasnât entirely right. He attacked the fans instead of the labels and all the shitty suits that made things so awful. Overly expensive albums, etc.Â
And now itâs worse than even $0.99 singles â you have things like Spotify that give you nearly every song youâve heard of for $9.99/month. Great for the listener, but only a trivial percentage of that already tiny amount is going to the artists. On the plus side, my nephewâs garage band (that has played a number of local bars and self-released an album) is available for streaming worldwide, so thatâs nice, I guess.
Is Chris Wareâs work really a âlit broâ staple or a warning sign on a book shelf? He seems to be in a different category than Eggers, Danielewski or (not mentioned but the king of this group) DFW.
âAfter all, itâs not their fault that they were released so close to each other, or that seeing all three on a single personâs bookshelf constitutes a red flag so massive that itâs visible from space.â
Writing something this douchey is way more of a red flag than owning some books lol.
âseeing all three on a single personâs bookshelf constitutes a red flag so massive that itâs visible from spaceâI was a sad lit bro in 2000 and never read any of these, after reading this I bought all three.This is a shaggy dog comment.